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AuthenticVIP
07-31-2014, 01:33 AM
If you only had eight slots to create a new Alpha Flight Team, who would they be? And as an additional bonus, if you had five more slots for a Beta Flight Team, who would they be? Living or deceased....

Let the fun begin!

MistressMerr
07-31-2014, 02:35 AM
It's always tempting to just go with the classic lineup, but I'd rather mix things up just a smidgen.

Alpha Flight:

Guardian (Heather Hudson) - Leader
Aurora
Box (Madison Jeffries)
Diamond Lil
Talisman (Elizabeth Twoyoungmen)
Puck (Eugene Judd)
Puck (Zuzha Yu)
Snowbird

Northstar's pretty happy with the X-Men these days, so I left him out, and Shaman can kinda be around as team doctor, if not an active member. Let him retire in relative peace~ Throw in Zuzha because A) I like her and would like to see her in a proper series, and B) Pulling Northstar and Shaman splits up two on-team families, and that's always one of my favourite elements of AF. Gotta make up for it somehow. The only hard cut was Walter, he and Marrina can be special ops or something.

Beta Flight:

Vindicator (James Hudson) - Leader/Mentor
Purple Woman
Witchfire
Transonic
Flashback (Jenny Monroe)

I didn't mean for Beta to turn into Mac's Angels, it just kinda happened that way.

AuthenticVIP
07-31-2014, 03:25 AM
@MistressMerr LOVE IT! Thanks for the post. I would have moved Puck (Zuzha Yu) to Beta, removed Transonic and added Northstar to Alpha myself based on your list. But I still love it.

Each of my replies will change with every post. I will value every idea.

Again, thanks for the post! Great team!!

AuthenticVIP
07-31-2014, 03:28 AM
I have always been a fan of Madison Jeffries and Diamond Lil

Tawmis
07-31-2014, 03:44 AM
If you only had eight slots to create a new Alpha Flight Team, who would they be? And as an additional bonus, if you had five more slots for a Beta Flight Team, who would they be? Living or deceased....
Let the fun begin!

ALPHA FLIGHT:
My Alpha Flight would be led by Mac, and have more of an edge that we saw in Alpha Flight: Fear Itself. I believe that cutting edge would make more fans appreciate and respect Alpha Flight. Northstar would remain with the X-Men, because he's getting plenty of good use there. Yukon Jack was a character, I actually liked and would have liked to have seen more from him. I'd build around the "future" of what Yukon Jack does when he marries Snowbird, and perhaps work on a relationship between them (where he wants her, but she wants nothing to do with him, remaining the aloof Snowbird I enjoyed).

1. Snowbird
2. Shaman
3. Sasquatch
4. Vindicator (Mac)
5. Aurora
6. Marrina
7. Puck
8. Yukon Jack

BETA
1. Witchfire
2. Radius
3. Puck II
4. Goblyn
5. Talisman

BETA Flight would be lead, on the field, by Talisman. But really, both Alpha and Beta, would report to Heather (who would not be in costume, but use computers and such to communicate to the team). Talisman would be there to keep Witchfire in check, who at times, feels the pull from her father's influence. I would have Puck II interacting with her father on the Alpha Flight team; often coming to a head, about how she shouldn't be doing this (according to Puck, because it's so dangerous). I would eventually make Witchfire as powerful as Magik, and make her a contendor for some powerful magic users in Marvel. I'd also focus on Goblyn and how she becomes extremely feral at times; and put her on par with folks like Wildchild and Sabretooth.

AuthenticVIP
07-31-2014, 04:17 AM
WOW @Tawmis!! That's a great team and back story. I have nothing to say here except I should have added extra slots for inactive team members to the list fr support. Your use of characters like Heather Hudson, Shaman and Puck (Eugene) show some depth. And I am a BIG fan of Yukon Jack (among others not mentioned yet). Love the background for Beta Flight.

Flightpath07
07-31-2014, 05:05 AM
I'm gonna completely switch stuff up:

My 8-member Alpha Flight would be:
1. Vindicator (this'd be Windshear wearing the Guardian armour) - Mac and Heather would both retire from superheroing, just help run the team and do scientific research for Department H, etc.
2. Box (Roger Bochs - I'd find a way to bring him back)
3. Puck
4. Talisman (I'd continue her relationship with Puck, and have them dual-lead the team in the field)
5. Citadel (prison work-release program)
6. Aurora
7. Snowbird
8. The Shroud (why not?!)
- Sasquatch would be more interested in science and trying to reverse the effects that the Sasquatch transformation is starting to have on his body, but he would be available to stop in and help when needed. Northstar and Jeffries are too entrenched in the US of A to be returning to Canada, me thinks.

Beta Flight:
1. Shaman, their leader
2. Ghost Girl
3. Flex
4. Yukon Jack (and I STILL think it'd be funny if he was in love with Snowbird)
5. Epsilon Red (Jeff Brown, wearing a new suit of Epsilon Black armour with a red motif)

Just noticed your post, Tawmis - in particular, "perhaps work on a relationship between them (where he wants her, but she wants nothing to do with him, remaining the aloof Snowbird I enjoyed)."
I believe we are thinking along the same wavelengths, or close to it!

Phil
07-31-2014, 06:33 AM
1. Pointer
2. Sasquatch
3. Puck
4. Persuasion
5. Flex
6. Earthmover
7. New female character
8. New female character

with Heather as co-ordinator, Shaman as physician and Mac as head of Department H

Beta Flight
5 new characters - with Windshear as co-ordinator

Alphan East
07-31-2014, 07:45 PM
Call me a traditionalist... but here's my dream team:

Alpha Flight:

Guardian - Mac. The original... the one and only.
Sasquatch
Snowbird
Puck
Aurora
Talisman
Windshear
Marrina

Beta Flight (Reserves):

Vindicator - Heather
Purple Woman
Biox - Madison Jeffries
Northstar
Shaman

Bill P
08-01-2014, 01:51 AM
Alpha Flight
1) Guardian (Mac)
2) Sasquatch
3) Shaman
4) Snowbird
5) Puck
6) Marrina
7) Aurora
8) Northstar

Gamma Flight
1) Persuasion
2) Windshear
3) Pathway
4) Goblyn
5) Flex

Bonus
Omega Flight
1) Box
2) Wild Child
3) Diamond Lil
4) Smart Alec
5) Flashback
6) Nemesis
7) Sedna
8) Graviton
9) Witchfire

Bill P
08-01-2014, 01:52 AM
Ha my 8s turned into happy faces!

And its not even Friday yet

Tawmis
08-01-2014, 03:32 AM
WOW @Tawmis!! That's a great team and back story. I have nothing to say here except I should have added extra slots for inactive team members to the list fr support. Your use of characters like Heather Hudson, Shaman and Puck (Eugene) show some depth. And I am a BIG fan of Yukon Jack (among others not mentioned yet). Love the background for Beta Flight.

I enjoyed Yukon Jack as well! Thought he was interesting and unique enough! I love Alpha Flight, despite what they've been through. Written plenty of fanfic, about how I'd "fix" some of the things done to them over the years! Just to see them treated fairly!



I'm gonna completely switch stuff up:


When don't you? :)



My 8-member Alpha Flight would be:
1. Vindicator (this'd be Windshear wearing the Guardian armour) - Mac and Heather would both retire from superheroing, just help run the team and do scientific research for Department H, etc.


Cool idea putting Windshear in the Guardian suit. Heather and Mac could be parents also in their retirement, since they still have a daughter - SOMEWHERE.



2. Box (Roger Bochs - I'd find a way to bring him back)


With all the magic in Alpha Flight, would be easy enough.



3. Puck
4. Talisman (I'd continue her relationship with Puck, and have them dual-lead the team in the field)


Would be nice for Puck to get some love.



5. Citadel (prison work-release program)


Don't know who this is off hand?



Beta Flight:
4. Yukon Jack (and I STILL think it'd be funny if he was in love with Snowbird)
Just noticed your post, Tawmis - in particular, "perhaps work on a relationship between them (where he wants her, but she wants nothing to do with him, remaining the aloof Snowbird I enjoyed)." I believe we are thinking along the same wavelengths, or close to it!

Be afraid. Be very afraid!



1. Pointer


Back in the Guardian suit? (Did he perish? I can't honestly recall where he ended up...)



6. Earthmover


You did that to yank my chain, didn't you? ;)



7. New female character
8. New female character


You could put Murmur in there, since she got so little development.



Call me a traditionalist...


Traditionalist!



Beta Flight (Reserves):

Vindicator - Heather
Purple Woman
Biox - Madison Jeffries
Northstar
Shaman

You think Northstar would settle with being on Beta Flight?



Alpha Flight
1) Guardian (Mac)
2) Sasquatch
3) Shaman
4) Snowbird
5) Puck
6) Marrina
7) Aurora
:cool: Northstar


A fan of the original series? ;)



Bonus
Omega Flight
1) Box
2) Wild Child
3) Diamond Lil
4) Smart Alec
5) Flashback
6) Nemesis
7) Sedna
:cool: Graviton
9) Witchfire

Make Wild Child and Diamond Lil bad guys again, eh? Who would be in Box?
And not sure who Sedna is?

Legerd
08-03-2014, 04:50 PM
Alpha Flight (main team)
Guardian (Mac) (leader)
Snowbird
Sasquatch
Northstar
Aurora
Talisman
Marrina
(New character)

Beta Flight (secondary team)
Windshear (leader)
Earthmover
Box (Jefferies)
Citadel
St. Elmo
Diamond Lil
(New character)
(New character)

Omega Flight (covert/black ops team)
Puck (leader)
Nemesis
Pathway
Goblyn
Purple Woman
Wild Child
Witchfyre
Wyre

Epsilon Flight (Canada's version of SHIELD)
Heather (in a Nick Fury role)
Shaman (head of Mystical Division)
Roger Bochs (head of Tech Division)
Smart Alec (head of Sciences Division)

Garry/Al-Fan
08-04-2014, 04:30 PM
Alpha Flight

1) Agent K (from Machine Man # 18)
2) Aurora
3) Lynx
4) Northstar
5) Sasquatch
6) Shaman
7) Snowbird
8) Judd/Puck

Official unofficial liason(s) - Frank Hulme, Mr. Farnum, and Agent Brown (Omega Flight version)

Bill P
08-04-2014, 10:43 PM
I like the Epsilon Flight idea. But too many characters.


Alpha Flight (main team)
Guardian (Mac) (leader)
Snowbird
Sasquatch
Northstar
Aurora
Talisman
Marrina
(New character)

Beta Flight (secondary team)
Windshear (leader)
Earthmover
Box (Jefferies)
Citadel
St. Elmo
Diamond Lil
(New character)
(New character)

Omega Flight (covert/black ops team)
Puck (leader)
Nemesis
Pathway
Goblyn
Purple Woman
Wild Child
Witchfyre
Wyre

Epsilon Flight (Canada's version of SHIELD)
Heather (in a Nick Fury role)
Shaman (head of Mystical Division)
Roger Bochs (head of Tech Division)
Smart Alec (head of Sciences Division)

Bill P
08-04-2014, 10:52 PM
Make Wild Child and Diamond Lil bad guys again, eh? Who would be in Box?
And not sure who Sedna is?

Sedna is the goddess of the dead in Inuit mythology. She had a few appearances in Thor. She's limited to depths of the north seas. Thought she would make a good foe for Marrina or Snowbird.

Mokole
08-05-2014, 12:13 PM
Alpha Flight
Puck (field leader)
Guardian (Mac sometimes)
Sasquatch (sometimes)
Box
Talisman
Inuit mystic teleporter
Feedback (Guardian)
Ghost Girl

Shaman head Mystic, Heather chief administrator, Walter chief scientist, Mac chief engineer. But Walter and Mac are needed in the field too sometimes.

Beta Flight (dirty work)
Nemesis (leader)
Persuasion
Pathway
Goblyn
Earthmover
Marrina

The way things are in Marvel I have a hard time using mutants on any team. But I'm sure Pathway and Goblyn would ally with AF over mutants. Feedback may want in and can power the Guardian suit, be Guardian when Mac can't. AF uses the regular six always, and always has a Guardian that way. Box provides muscle when Sasquatch is unavailable.

Tawmis
08-05-2014, 01:44 PM
Alpha Flight (main team)
Guardian (Mac) (leader)
Snowbird
Sasquatch
Northstar
Aurora
Talisman
Marrina
(New character)


When you say New Character - have anyone or anything in mind?


Alpha Flight (main team)
Beta Flight (secondary team)
Windshear (leader)
Earthmover
Box (Jefferies)
Citadel
St. Elmo
Diamond Lil
(New character)
(New character)


First issue of Beta Flight, Earthmover dies a horrible death, right? :)


Alpha Flight (main team)
Omega Flight (covert/black ops team)
Puck (leader)
Nemesis
Pathway
Goblyn
Purple Woman
Wild Child
Witchfyre
Wyre


This is a pretty cool idea. And a perfect team to do just that! The fact that you have Witchfire, Wyre and Goblyn on this same team, makes me happy!


Alpha Flight (main team)
Epsilon Flight (Canada's version of SHIELD)
Heather (in a Nick Fury role)
Shaman (head of Mystical Division)
Roger Bochs (head of Tech Division)
Smart Alec (head of Sciences Division)

That's pretty freaking brilliant right there.


Alpha Flight

1) Agent K (from Machine Man # 1:cool:
2) Aurora
3) Lynx
4) Northstar
5) Sasquatch
6) Shaman
7) Snowbird
:cool: Judd/Puck

Official unofficial liason(s) - Frank Hulme, Mr. Farnum, and Agent Brown (Omega Flight version)

I never read Machine Man, so I don't know who Agent K is. And not sure who Lynx is either?


Sedna is the goddess of the dead in Inuit mythology. She had a few appearances in Thor. She's limited to depths of the north seas. Thought she would make a good foe for Marrina or Snowbird.

I can dig it! A villain that would impact two members. I like this idea.


Alpha Flight
Puck (field leader)
Guardian (Mac sometimes)
Sasquatch (sometimes)
Box
Talisman
Inuit mystic teleporter
Feedback (Guardian)
Ghost Girl


For your teleporter, you'd create a new character? Witchfire or Goblyn could probably fill that role?




Beta Flight (dirty work)
Nemesis (leader)
Persuasion
Pathway
Goblyn
Earthmover
Marrina


Man, what's with the Earthmover love? :D

cmdrkoenig67
08-05-2014, 05:02 PM
Alpha Flight:

Guardian (Heather Hudson) - Leader
Aurora
Marrina
Northstar
Puck (Eugene Judd)
Sasquatch
Snowbird
Talisman (Elizabeth Twoyoungmen)

Mac is taking care of Claire and doing tech work for the team and Dept H. He also dons the Guardian mantle when Heather can't (or wants a day off...LOL).

Shaman mentors his daughter and is semi-retired.

cmdrkoenig67
08-05-2014, 05:10 PM
Sedna is the goddess of the dead in Inuit mythology. She had a few appearances in Thor. She's limited to depths of the north seas. Thought she would make a good foe for Marrina or Snowbird.

I totally agree, she'd make a great adversary for the entire team too.

Tawmis
08-05-2014, 06:53 PM
Alpha Flight:

Guardian (Heather Hudson) - Leader
Aurora
Marrina
Northstar
Puck (Eugene Judd)
Sasquatch
Snowbird
Talisman (Elizabeth Twoyoungmen)

Mac is taking care of Claire and doing tech work for the team and Dept H. He also dons the Guardian mantle when Heather can't (or wants a day off...LOL).

Shaman mentors his daughter and is semi-retired.



I like the team. Original team with Talisman.

Garry/Al-Fan
08-06-2014, 12:04 PM
I never read Machine Man, so I don't know who Agent K is. And not sure who Lynx is either?

Man, what's with the Earthmover love? :D

Agent K was a(n effective) Canadian covert operative who helped Aurora, Northstar, and Sasquatch uncover the plot by then-Senator Miles Brickman to pit the United States against Canada by using Machine Man. Tom DeFalco (writing)/Steve Ditko (art).

Lynx---who admittedly I only know of from the MARVEL HANDBOOK---might be an interesting new character for Alpha Flight, and she has ties to Wolverine, if he needs to make an appearance.

Earthmover. What's not to love?

Mokole
08-06-2014, 12:57 PM
Earthmover because I'm trying to put in mystics when mutants are hard to get. And an Inuit teleporter over Witchfire because she's kind of evil and unavailable and I want someone who can teleport without being a target, new kind of teleporter, much more adept than others, can teleport herself or large groups, does it unlike others, mystic angle again, can hold people out of reality and put them right back where they started when the danger is gone. Plus, I want an Inuit character.

Make the team a combo of special regular humans and magic.

Tawmis
08-06-2014, 05:14 PM
Agent K was a(n effective) Canadian covert operative who helped Aurora, Northstar, and Sasquatch uncover the plot by then-Senator Miles Brickman to pit the United States against Canada by using Machine Man. Tom DeFalco (writing)/Steve Ditko (art).

Lynx---who admittedly I only know of from the MARVEL HANDBOOK---might be an interesting new character for Alpha Flight, and she has ties to Wolverine, if he needs to make an appearance.

Earthmover. What's not to love?

For Agent K, sounds like something I need to read. Do you know the issue #s?

I will need to look up Lynx! (Although I am sick of everyone having ties to Wolverine!) :)

As for Earthmover...


Earthmover because I'm trying to put in mystics when mutants are hard to get. And an Inuit teleporter over Witchfire because she's kind of evil and unavailable and I want someone who can teleport without being a target, new kind of teleporter, much more adept than others, can teleport herself or large groups, does it unlike others, mystic angle again, can hold people out of reality and put them right back where they started when the danger is gone. Plus, I want an Inuit character.

Make the team a combo of special regular humans and magic.

As for Earthmover, I have frequently mentioned my dislike of the character. And how if I wrote at Marvel, my first issue would be killing him. But I completely jest! :) I get liking weird, obscure character. (My avatar is Adam-X for crying out loud! Talk about digging obscure characters - and claiming that he's one of my favorites, ever, no less!) :) I have never seen the appeal of Earthmover (but I am sure there's FAR more people who don't see the appeal of Adam-X, so who am I to judge?) :)

And I dig the idea of an Inuit teleporter (or character), the more diversity and representation, the better.

Phil
08-06-2014, 06:38 PM
For Agent K, sounds like something I need to read. Do you know the issue #s?
Machine Man #18 (http://alphaflight.net/content.php?757-Review-Machine-Man-18)

Wildcard
08-07-2014, 12:57 AM
I really liked how Department H was featured in an issue of Wolverine First Class. Logan selected his strike team from a list of people suited for the mission. I would base my series around that premise. With Heather running things at HQ, assigning missions etc. Shaman would be retired and team physician and I would have Agent Brown as a sort of Agent Coulson type.

Alpha Flight
Guardian (Mac)
Wolverine
Sasquatch
Puck
Sunfire
Aurora
Talisman
Snowbird

Beta Flight
Box
Diamond Lil
Flashback
Witchfire
Windshear

I would also put some thought into updating their costumes. I really liked Talisman's Omega Flight costume as well as Puck's look from the last series. It seemed more modern.There is also some fan art of Aurora I saw once where her costume was modernized and she had a yellow visor. I would try doing stuff like that for the team.

Tawmis
08-07-2014, 03:33 PM
Machine Man #18 (http://alphaflight.net/content.php?757-Review-Machine-Man-18)

Thank you sir!



Alpha Flight
Guardian (Mac)
Wolverine
Sasquatch
Puck
Sunfire
Aurora
Talisman
Snowbird


I think you're the first to put Wolverine on the team. And Sunfire, no less! Wolverine would make the book sell.



Beta Flight
Box
Diamond Lil
Flashback
Witchfire
Windshear


I dig this team.

Garry/Al-Fan
08-09-2014, 12:05 PM
Earthmover because I'm trying to put in mystics when mutants are hard to get. And an Inuit teleporter over Witchfire because she's kind of evil and unavailable and I want someone who can teleport without being a target, new kind of teleporter, much more adept than others, can teleport herself or large groups, does it unlike others, mystic angle again, can hold people out of reality and put them right back where they started when the danger is gone. Plus, I want an Inuit character.

Make the team a combo of special regular humans and magic.

This would be an interesting team with balance. I hope the-powers-that-be will consider it. Talisman is one of my favorites but I didn't include her as an official member of Alpha Flight on my list, and Northstar is an X-man now, but if it were possible he'd be in contact as a part of the team from the states. Aurora without Northstar, in Alpha Flight, just seems wrong (imo).


I really liked how Department H was featured in an issue of Wolverine First Class. Logan selected his strike team from a list of people suited for the mission. I would base my series around that premise....
I would also put some thought into updating their costumes...

It always made sense to me that superfolk would have more than one uniform/costume.

AuthenticVIP
08-09-2014, 08:55 PM
I'm gonna completely switch stuff up:

My 8-member Alpha Flight would be:
1. Vindicator (this'd be Windshear wearing the Guardian armour) - Mac and Heather would both retire from superheroing, just help run the team and do scientific research for Department H, etc.
2. Box (Roger Bochs - I'd find a way to bring him back)
3. Puck
4. Talisman (I'd continue her relationship with Puck, and have them dual-lead the team in the field)
5. Citadel (prison work-release program)
6. Aurora
7. Snowbird
8. The Shroud (why not?!)
- Sasquatch would be more interested in science and trying to reverse the effects that the Sasquatch transformation is starting to have on his body, but he would be available to stop in and help when needed. Northstar and Jeffries are too entrenched in the US of A to be returning to Canada, me thinks.

Beta Flight:
1. Shaman, their leader
2. Ghost Girl
3. Flex
4. Yukon Jack (and I STILL think it'd be funny if he was in love with Snowbird)
5. Epsilon Red (Jeff Brown, wearing a new suit of Epsilon Black armour with a red motif)

GREAT IDEAS HERE! I like how you mixed this up. Especially with Windshear, Citadel, The Shroud and Epsilon Red.


Just noticed your post, Tawmis - in particular, "perhaps work on a relationship between them (where he wants her, but she wants nothing to do with him, remaining the aloof Snowbird I enjoyed)."
I believe we are thinking along the same wavelengths, or close to it!

Again with some great background building!

AuthenticVIP
08-09-2014, 09:00 PM
Cool idea putting Windshear in the Guardian suit. Heather and Mac could be parents also in their retirement, since they still have a daughter - SOMEWHERE.

Agreed!


And not sure who Sedna is?

Sedna (Inuktitut (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inuktitut_language): ᓴᓐᓇ, Sanna) is the goddess of the sea and marine animals in Inuit mythology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inuit_mythology), also known as the Mother of the Sea or Mistress of the Sea. The story of Sedna, which is a creation myth, describes how she came to rule over Adlivun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adlivun), the Inuit (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inuit) underworld (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underworld). Sedna is also known as Arnakuagsak (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnakuagsak) or Arnaqquassaaq (Greenland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenland)) and Sassuma Arnaa ("Mother of the Deep", West Greenland) and Nerrivik (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nerrivik) ("Table", northern Greenland) or Nuliajuk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuliajuk) (District of Keewatin, Northwest Territories, Canada).

AuthenticVIP
08-09-2014, 09:05 PM
Alpha Flight (main team)
Guardian (Mac) (leader)
Snowbird
Sasquatch
Northstar
Aurora
Talisman
Marrina
(New character)

Beta Flight (secondary team)
Windshear (leader)
Earthmover
Box (Jefferies)
Citadel
St. Elmo
Diamond Lil
(New character)
(New character)

Omega Flight (covert/black ops team)
Puck (leader)
Nemesis
Pathway
Goblyn
Purple Woman
Wild Child
Witchfyre
Wyre

Epsilon Flight (Canada's version of SHIELD)
Heather (in a Nick Fury role)
Shaman (head of Mystical Division)
Roger Bochs (head of Tech Division)
Smart Alec (head of Sciences Division)

Now here is a great list covering a bunch of departments. Fairly similar to what I have on paper, except I have a Delta Flight for World and Cosmic missions that use members from each Flight team. Nice Job!

AuthenticVIP
08-09-2014, 09:23 PM
Machine Man #18 (http://alphaflight.net/content.php?757-Review-Machine-Man-18)

HOLY SH1T!! I totally forgot about this comic and I even own it (this is what happens when you have or 30,000 comics ranging from the 60s-90s in first/second print; before everything new went digital and became cheaper). Thanks!

PS - Love the links in the signature