Alpha Flight's Newest Love Affair

[Ben]

We know it's gonna happen eventually in the new book. My money's on either Zuzha and Walt, or Zuzha and MMJ. She and Walt have had some nice interplay, but she IS clinging to the Major a lot....

Ben

[ladymako71]

OMG!

Yes she has been clingy to MMJ, but my money's on Zuzha and Walt!

[HappyCanuck]

OMG!

Yes she has been clingy to MMJ, but my money's on Zuzha and Walt!


LMAO, I wanna see Eugene's reaction to THAT!!

[Nalyd Psycho]

My moneys on MMJ and Nemesis. It makes sense if you think down.

[beetleblack]

I'm banking on Yukon Jack and MMJ... however that seems - sadly - unlikely.

Not sure how I would feel about Zuzha and Walt, how young is she meant to be??? But as you say it should be interesting to see Eugene's reaction to that if it happens.

If Nemesis is an agent/spirit of vengence it would be interesting to see her battling her feelings of love vs her natural instincts of fighting justice (or whatever), but not sure they will do that with her just yet.

[Ben]

Not sure how I would feel about Zuzha and Walt, how young is she meant to be??? But as you say it should be interesting to see Eugene's reaction to that if it happens.


I'm guessing she's around 25. She does own her own bar after all, so she can't be too young.

Ben

[Phil]

Am going for a Zuzha - MMLJnr.

[kozzi24]

Zuzha gets pregnant with Plodex child and MMJr proposes to do the right thing?

[SwiftFox]

Hmmm I say theres a communal group wedding....

lol seriously though... I dunno I think Walt might be a touch old for Zuzha... I'd say she ends up going for Major Maplelaff Jr. :P

But I'm often wrong.... how about Nemesis and Centennial???

[kozzi24]

I don't kow if that pairing would be appropriate to either character. If they're that old, no matter how liberated they are from their times one or both would not be approving of cross-racial relationships, no matter how accepting they would be of members of other races as friends.

[HappyCanuck]

I don't kow if that pairing would be appropriate to either character. If they're that old, no matter how liberated they are from their times one or both would not be approving of cross-racial relationships, no matter how accepting they would be of members of other races as friends.

Plus, Scott said rather vaguely that one of the ANADAF is gonna die circa issue 9 (I believe this appeared in Rich's interview with him). Just based on our characters, the prime candidate is Rutherford (he is 97 bloody years old)... mind you, this is Lobdell, so it could be anyone, but I'm taking logic into my shoes on this one.

[kozzi24]

My guess would be the new Puck, because that would have the greatest effect on other characters, particularly Eugene.
Yukon Jack would be no loss, though.

[Ben]

Maybe the knife in YJ's chest was actually foreshadowing, not flashback.

Scott didn't really say that somone was gonna die, what he said was " An example of this is issue 9, with a surpise marriage proposal that I didn't see coming. Certainly as certain characters shuffle off their moral coil, they characters left behind will react different as a result. "

Ben

[HappyCanuck]

My guess would be the new Puck, because that would have the greatest effect on other characters, particularly Eugene.
Yukon Jack would be no loss, though.

Don't be too quick to rule out YJ just yet. He has a LOT of potential, and unlike a lot of other writer's calamities, Scott seems to know potential. Zuzha is another character with a lot of potential, especially in regards to her lack-of-relationship with her father....

.... *insert inquisitive expression here*....

.... looking over the characters, they all have a lot of potential. The only one who's been extensively explored is Walt, and God knows he's been down that route at least once, so that's unimaginative. My vote's still on Centennial or Nemesis (she's an animated corpse, so I guess 'death' is a bit of a misnomer). Also, by 'vote', I don't mean I WANT these characters to die, just they are the most likely.

[ladymako71]

Don't be too quick to rule out YJ just yet. He has a LOT of potential, and unlike a lot of other writer's calamities, Scott seems to know potential.

I personally reckon YJ has HUGE potential! I mean seriously? Here's a dude from some secluded society that has remained off the radar of 'modern civilization' for who knows how long, yet they are aware of the outside world and choose to avoid it. That alone intregues me.

An example of potential in characters...When Scott Lobdell and Chris Bochello went about creating Generation X, I remember reading an article where Scott said that Chamber pretty much created himself in the initial discussions about the book. And under Scott's writing and Chris' art, Chamber turned into one of the most fresh, ingenius, exciting characters of comics in a long time!


Zuzha is another character with a lot of potential, especially in regards to her lack-of-relationship with her father....

Yeah, especially after #4 where it shows that Eugene knows of her. What's happened since they were seperated? Does Zuzha have a clue about who her dad is? There's a million twelve questions about the father/daughter relationship alone.

As for the proposal hinted at in Rich's interview, I personally can't wait to see who and what! I have read te thread and the speculations and I have my own thoughts on the matter too, but I'm just going to be a good girl and wait and see what happens.


lol seriously though... I dunno I think Walt might be a touch old for Zuzha... I'd say she ends up going for Major Maplelaff Jr.

Eh...I dunno, kinda loath as I am to bring it up, look at X-Men with Archangel (which he'll always be to me thank you) and Husk. She's all of 19 and Warren has to be at least a decade older. You figure that the original X-Men are all in their early to mid 30's with the possible exception of Iceman who isn't that far behind them. So I don't think the age thing would matter much...at least not in this day and age.

[kozzi24]

Walt actually strikes me as the type who would prefer younger women. I always figured him to be mid-to-late 30's, so he's got a decade on J-M.

[SwiftFox]

I don't kow if that pairing would be appropriate to either character. If they're that old, no matter how liberated they are from their times one or both would not be approving of cross-racial relationships, no matter how accepting they would be of members of other races as friends.

I uh..... er..... never mind...

[SwiftFox]

My guess would be the new Puck, because that would have the greatest effect on other characters, particularly Eugene.
Yukon Jack would be no loss, though.

But Scott has told us that she doesn't even take the codename for a year...

[SwiftFox]

Eh...I dunno, kinda loath as I am to bring it up, look at X-Men with Archangel (which he'll always be to me thank you) and Husk. She's all of 19 and Warren has to be at least a decade older. You figure that the original X-Men are all in their early to mid 30's with the possible exception of Iceman who isn't that far behind them. So I don't think the age thing would matter much...at least not in this day and age.

One instance, doesn't make it the norm. Of course one against doesn't make it the norm either, but it seems to me a lot of younger girls don't want an older guy. (Trust me on this... hell a 6 year 19-25 difference is apparently too much..) although going on Ben's assumption that shes 25, I suppose it's not quite as bad... but I would peg her more like 22. But what do I know? :P

[syvalois]

I would say Zuzha looks younger than her age. Look at her father for a good exemple... And without the surnatural some people do look younger

[bigbloo]

Of course we are just speculating about the characters currently in the book, who knows if other members will join in? They are planning on saving the Original Alpha, right?

Shaman is certainly due for a bit of mortal coil shuffling. And Snowbird can finally become immortal and join her God family... Or Nemesis, I mean im not really sure she's even alive at this point...

As for the proposal, my bets on MMJ, maybe to Zusha... or he proposes to Nemesis, and she commits suicide.... :lol:

[beetleblack]

I was going to mention the whole Archangel/Husk thing. At the end of the day it's more accepted to put older men with younger woman - look at Hollywood movies, they do it all the time.

If there is to be a death then I have to say that I'd want it to be Centennial. I think the other characters have too much potential, which isn't to say that Centennial doesn't but I believe his potential is less than the others.

[Phil]

I think Snowbird and Thunder are gonna get it on...

[ladymako71]

I would say Zuzha looks younger than her age. Look at her father for a good exemple... And without the surnatural some people do look younger

I thought about this and yer right. My brother in law is half asian and he looks all of twelve...he's two months younger then me.


I think Snowbird and Thunder are gonna get it on...

You got REALLY ratted last night didn't you? lol


At the end of the day it's more accepted to put older men with younger woman - look at Hollywood movies, they do it all the time.


I tend to agree here. Me last date was three years younger then my parents...albiet that was a while ago...I personally prefer older men simply because I find the majority of them around my age (present company excepted! I'm daring certain people to challenge this one ^^) immature morons...Yes there are 20 or 30 somethings that act their age...although they are very few and far between...at least down here in California but then I have a bias against the state as a whole.

But! Back on track here...women today want a man they know they can rely on. someone who has a brain cell or two floating around the skull and someone they feel they can trust to not be a blatant idiot in the face of day to day life. Hence why a lot of women I know at least do tend to go for the older bloke.

Now that's not to say older is always better...I know of exceptions where it turned out to be a complete disaster as well. But generally speaking, women want someone who has the ability to think beyond their playstations.

[Phil]

I think Snowbird and Thunder are gonna get it on...

You got REALLY ratted last night didn't you? lol


I wrote that under 2 hours ago :lol:

[ladymako71]

women today want a man they know they can rely on. someone who has a brain cell or two floating around the skull and someone they feel they can trust to not be a blatant idiot in the face of day to day life. Hence why a lot of women I know at least do tend to go for the older bloke.

Let me add to this...cause once again I hit send before realising I wasn't done...

This goes BOTH ways! I know of several blokes here who think a girl is really hot or what have you only to find that she has no clue to anything which immediately turns the poor bloke off. (Ms. Love-Hewitt comes to mind...) And sadly I see a lot of women my age or younger who do just this. I seriously think it's act half the time until I talk to some of them only to realise that no...they are that stupid. *twitch*

As for why blokes may go for younger women, like Walt for Aurora/J-M. (or vice versa) I know of several cases where the bloke in question finds a girl that he can relate too a lot better then a girl his own age. Of course most of the blokes in question tend to be more open minded and find conservative types a turn off. Walt's a very liberal scientific type after all (at least from what I've seen so far) so he would be understandably attracted to a women who is of a like mind and that tends to be found in the younger set. This is also why I'm still hedging on Walt and Zuzha. ;)

[syvalois]

I don't care for the age difference in both ways,but I'm more than tired to see in movies old man with young women. Can older actress have a job too? Can Robert Redford or Sean Connery or Harisson Ford have women their onw age for a change?

[beetleblack]

I don't care for the age difference in both ways,but I'm more than tired to see in movies old man with young women. Can older actresses have a job too? Can Robert Redford or Sean Connery or Harisson Ford have women their own age for a change?

TOTALLY agree! I can certainly understand why actresses of a certain age get so frustrated because they can't get any good parts. (Alex Kingston who is in her early 40s and stars in ER has allegedly been fired because she is considered TOO OLD!)

Incidentally, if Snowbird (presumably in horse form) and Thunder get it together and she becomes pregnant will she give birth to a horse or a half goddess-half horse hybrid???

Either way, would a marriage between Snowbird (shall we call her Snowy - that's sexy for a she-horse) and Thunder be legal???? EVEN in Canada???? ;) *

* Sorry, that was meant to be a joke.

[kozzi24]

From what I've seen, May-December romances usually don't work out too well for life because the younger person invariably outgrows the older one.
The death thing doesn't look good for Eugene is his daughter will be taking his code-name.
They "can't" kill Shaman because one of the few permanent deaths was Thunderbird and Marvel is afraid of becoming Indian killers.

[kozzi24]

Don't Namor & Marrina count as off-ages romance also?

[bigbloo]

Don't Namor & Marrina count as off-ages romance also?

Does the couple of thousand years she spent as an egg count towards her age?

[kozzi24]

Not unless you count your own birthsay from the point of conception, which might lead to more information than you'd want to know.
Byrne depicted Marrina in a range of maybe 18 - 22. Namor's been around since before the 20's.

[Nalyd Psycho]

I believe Namor was conceived during World War 1.

[jay042]

The big this is age is largely perception of the individual. Namor, still in the prime of life despite having lived for decades probably doesn't feel old. That's the thing with near immortality, it's likely to skew your perceptions of how old is old.

[Nalyd Psycho]

Exactly, Wolverine is older than Namor and I don't think he's made it with any immortal women. So there's probably an 60-80 year age difference with most of his girlfriends.

[jay042]

For that matter, I don't think Namor or Wolverine have in fact had women in their lives for protracted periods. I don't think they have married and ended up watching their wives grow old and die.

[beetleblack]

Well, Wolverine is like the Captain Kirk of the Marvel Universe, any woman he seems to fall for ends up dead.

So, back to AF - how man love affairs were there amongst the team members in the original run?

Aurora + Sasquatch
Aurora + Box I
Vindicator + Mr Jefferies
Mr Jefferies + Diamond Lil
Purple Girl + Manikin

Anymore?

[DelBubs]

Aurora + Sasquatch
Aurora + Box I
Vindicator + Mr Jefferies
Mr Jefferies + Diamond Lil
Purple Girl + Manikin

Anymore?
Well I was of the opinion that Heather may have had a thing with Wildheart (what a bloody silly name). Plus there was the off panel thing between Wildchild/Aurora, which led to the literary classic 'X-Factor #116'(?)

[kozzi24]

Well, Wolverine is like the Captain Kirk of the Marvel Universe, any woman he seems to fall for ends up dead.

As opposed to Namor, who doesn't watch his wives grow old and die, just die? Usually still during the honeymoon period, if they even last that long?

[kozzi24]

Aurora + Sasquatch
Aurora + Box I
Vindicator + Mr Jefferies
Mr Jefferies + Diamond Lil
Purple Girl + Manikin

Anymore?

Snowbird and Doug
Mac and Heather

If marriage makes it something other than an affair, do Persuasion and Manikin count? I'm not sure they ever did the deed, just flirted a lot.

[kozzi24]

Well I was of the opinion that Heather may have had a thing with Wildheart (what a bloody silly name). Plus there was the off panel thing between Wildchild/Aurora, which led to the literary classic 'X-Factor #116'(?)

You being sarcastic about X-Factor 116? I thought it was pretty good, except for the fact that while they printed a letter I remember about how they were making Wild Child a cheap copy of Wolverine and denied the assertion, the issue opened with him riding a motorcycle, just like Wolverine.

I think the romance between Heather and Wildheart was the idea of the writer (Scott!) and was quickly abandoned when he left the title.

[beetleblack]

Aurora + Sasquatch
Aurora + Box I
Vindicator + Mr Jefferies
Mr Jefferies + Diamond Lil
Purple Girl + Manikin

Anymore?

Snowbird and Doug
Mac and Heather

If marriage makes it something other than an affair, do Persuasion and Manikin count? I'm not sure they ever did the deed, just flirted a lot.

I was thinking more along the lines of inter-team relationships.

Not sure if Mac and Heather count - were they a couple while members of the team (at the same time), when Mac came back the first time he was more machine than man so don't know if he and Heather actually had much of a relationship at that time.

I counted Persuasion and Manikin because they did have a budding romance going on and it had stuck in my memory. They probably didn't 'do the deed' though as you say.

[DelBubs]

You being sarcastic about X-Factor 116? I thought it was pretty good, except for the fact that while they printed a letter I remember about how they were making Wild Child a cheap copy of Wolverine and denied the assertion, the issue opened with him riding a motorcycle, just like Wolverine.

I think the romance between Heather and Wildheart was the idea of the writer (Scott!) and was quickly abandoned when he left the title.
I probably was being excedingly sarcastic about #116 X-Factor. I guess it's different strokes for different folks, but IMHO it has got to be one of the worst AF appearences ever. Writers treatment of Wildchild has always been a bug bear with me. To begin with he was just your bog standard feral type that swamped Marvel. Lobdell and Furman made him an excellent character, that battle he had against his doppleganger during Infinity whatever really strengthened him. In X-Factor he was ruined and as for the teeth in #116, lets not go there.

In regard to the romance, Phil remeinded me of somthing on another thread and I qoute

He couldn't remember exactly what he planned, but while he didn't want them to end up together he definitely added an air of attraction between the pair, carrying on from what Scott planted.

[kozzi24]

I guess it's different strokes for different folks, but IMHO it has got to be one of the worst AF appearences ever. Writers treatment of Wildchild has always been a bug bear with me. To begin with he was just your bog standard feral type that swamped Marvel. Lobdell and Furman made him an excellent character, that battle he had against his doppleganger during Infinity whatever really strengthened him. In X-Factor he was ruined and as for the teeth in #116, lets not go there.

By the Infinity whatever thing, he had started to grow on me a little bit, but I never liked him as a mamber of the team. Part of this is a general revulsion for the sheer population of feral characters, and another, greater part was that he was writer-du-jour's pet character. When Scott came on Alpha, he cleared a lot of chaffe and brought in Wildheart, and the book began to get a feel of "Wildheart and Alpha Flight." This isn't a specific criticism of Scott as many writers do it. On Alpha alone, there was Mantlo and Jeffries, and Hundall and Talisman. Nicienza and Furman
did manage a better balance of characters, which should be an objective on a team book. Wildheart came on too strong, and followed the Mantlo pattern of pet character: build a relationship with Heather.

I kind of look at Wild Child as a foil for Wolverine, that WC's failure to stay risen above feral nature strengthens Wolverine's heroism in maintaining the fact the he overcame his yet retains the feral streak as a personal "Weapon Omega" if a fight is just too down and dirty.

I like what has been done with WC in Weapon X, in a "White Fang" kind of way, that this man is sadly an animal, but one that can be domesticated. WC remembers Aurora by scent and appearance, but I would imagine a sever split personality might be stressful to a household dog. I've liked Tieri's story along those lines greatly because the Program has made WC victim enough, and Aurora increased the victimization by nature of her character, with character consistency. Aurora's dirching of Jeffries is justified because he was never really all that nice to her. Her abandonment of WC is something else entirely.

[kozzi24]

Not sure if Mac and Heather count - were they a couple while members of the team (at the same time), when Mac came back the first time he was more machine than man so don't know if he and Heather actually had much of a relationship at that time.
In an issue in the early 90's. I think they may have even been fighting on the cover. Much was made (by Clark, I think) of him being a cold fish and she being an ice princess. The issue ended with them in a locker room, and talking, and Heather dropped her towel as they hug.

[DelBubs]

I guess it's different strokes for different folks, but IMHO it has got to be one of the worst AF appearences ever. Writers treatment of Wildchild has always been a bug bear with me. To begin with he was just your bog standard feral type that swamped Marvel. Lobdell and Furman made him an excellent character, that battle he had against his doppleganger during Infinity whatever really strengthened him. In X-Factor he was ruined and as for the teeth in #116, lets not go there.

By the Infinity whatever thing, he had started to grow on me a little bit, but I never liked him as a mamber of the team. Part of this is a general revulsion for the sheer population of feral characters, and another, greater part was that he was writer-du-jour's pet character. When Scott came on Alpha, he cleared a lot of chaffe and brought in Wildheart, and the book began to get a feel of "Wildheart and Alpha Flight." This isn't a specific criticism of Scott as many writers do it. On Alpha alone, there was Mantlo and Jeffries, and Hundall and Talisman. Nicienza and Furman
did manage a better balance of characters, which should be an objective on a team book. Wildheart came on too strong, and followed the Mantlo pattern of pet character: build a relationship with Heather.

While I personally don't really have a problem with Feral types, given that if you catergorise Super Heroes/Villians then the majority would show up to be modelled on a some previous type. With Ferals and Gun toting Enhamced types, you have the problem of the prototypes being such strong popular characters. This gives characters of those types being immediately measured up against them and failing miserably.

I understand your problems about certain writers concentrating on specific characters, but I work from the fact that those you mentioned were very two dimensional before this concentration on them. Wildchild was a feral type, he became Kyle Gibney, kidnapped youth, this opened up more possibilty for character depth and something more than the Snarl, slash, hissy fit type of behaviour we had seen from him before. I do think that Scotts and then Simon Furmans depictions of Wildchild were some of the best in regards to what you reference as writer-du-jour's pet character.


I kind of look at Wild Child as a foil for Wolverine, that WC's failure to stay risen above feral nature strengthens Wolverine's heroism in maintaining the fact the he overcame his yet retains the feral streak as a personal "Weapon Omega" if a fight is just too down and dirty.

We saw that from Wildchild during the infinity what not, but all that developement was lost after vol 1 went bye and bye and WC's treatment in X-Factor. How many times has Wolverine lost or come close to giving in to his feral side, it's a tired old plot line that gets dragged out every now and again. I work on the theory that when Wildheart first appeared in #101, he said that he was in control because of medications provided by Dept H. I hold out hope that if returned to Af and put back on that same medication than the more controlled strong character can re-emerg.


I like what has been done with WC in Weapon X, in a "White Fang" kind of way, that this man is sadly an animal, but one that can be domesticated. WC remembers Aurora by scent and appearance, but I would imagine a sever split personality might be stressful to a household dog. I've liked Tieri's story along those lines greatly because the Program has made WC victim enough, and Aurora increased the victimization by nature of her character, with character consistency. Aurora's dirching of Jeffries is justified because he was never really all that nice to her. Her abandonment of WC is something else entirely.
I have no qualms with what Tieri has done with WC in Weapon X because that the was the natural path to take following events in X-Factor #143. It's been shown that WC is more than an animal and could be again, but as he is at present, then yea, he's nothing more than a subservient pet who retains some knowledge of better times, surely if he still has a devotion to Aurora then it would suggest that, he is probably more human than animal. Also is his subservience down to his regression to Beastial form, or the fact that he was horribly abused by Sabretooth, who stripped away a lot of WC's humanity?

[syvalois]

I do have to agree to Wildchild been the pet du jour 8) and AF could have been called Wildheart and Af in those old AF issue. The thing is, when you don't care for the character, it can get pretty boring, which was my case. Plus, Wire is my number 2 worst AF character ever, which do not help for my liking of the character.

[kozzi24]

I thought Wyre was okay, but only because he wasn't overused. I would have preferred more balance with Wildheart in those post 100 issues, and find some fault in the thinking of pare down a crowded book from long term characters, then add your own. Scott & Simon made WC a little less Wolverine, but those developments haven't lasted as much. WC is a character I like enough as part of an ensemble, without a constant focus on just him.

[beetleblack]

Btw, on the subject of WC - how old is he in the current run of Weapon X??? He seems to have reverted to practically a child.

[Phil]

That's a good question.

*consults the X-Men Marvel Encyclopedia*
*comes up with no answer*

Hmm...

He came across as quite young and inexperienced in X-Factor, and was seen skateboarding in Vol.2, so I dunno....

I'll ask Frank on X-Fan.

[ladymako71]

Btw, on the subject of WC - how old is he in the current run of Weapon X??? He seems to have reverted to practically a child.

Looky what Jo found?

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=81

I'm guessing by this he'd be about 20 or so.

[kozzi24]

hey, good reference site!

[Ben]

*sigh* this reminds me, that I really gotta get off my but and do my WC bio for AF.net. He's probably the only former AF member that's currently active in the Marvel Universe that I don't have a bio on. Stoopid crazy living in two provinces life!

Ben

[Sasquatch]

Zuzha and Walt. She's gonna make him wear that French maid outfit before this is all over. Just wait and see. :lol:

[ladymako71]

Zuzha and Walt. She's gonna make him wear that French maid outfit before this is all over. Just wait and see. :lol:

Now see? It's this type of thinking we need more of on this list!

<3<3<3<3 I love you. =)

[Sasquatch]

... and Walt will respond by wearing it while ten feet tall and furry. :twisted:

[Major Mapleleaf Jr]

Jo, I smell a fanfic in the works... :wink: :lol:

[ladymako71]

Jo, I smell a fanfic in the works... :wink: :lol:

Aww now see? Yer just asking for trouble now. ^^ Although I must admit the idea is 'tempting'. :twisted: VERY Tempting! mwahahahaha!

[ladymako71]

... and Walt will respond by wearing it while ten feet tall and furry. :twisted:


Jo, I smell a fanfic in the works...

Aw now see? You two have REALLY done it now! If I could record my brain processes right now, you'd both be on the floor laughing yer a***s off.

[Barnacle13]

You see it in society all the time! ala Catherine Zeta Jones and Michael Douglas. I don't think Walt and Zuzha are that much of a stretch. But then again if the old team has been saved who says it has to be one of the newbies? Perhaps Mac will die again and Puck will step up and help raise the young Hudson!

Barnacle13

[Ben]

You see it in society all the time! ala Catherine Zeta Jones and Michael Douglas. I don't think Walt and Zuzha are that much of a stretch. But then again if the old team has been saved who says it has to be one of the newbies? Perhaps Mac will die again and Puck will step up and help raise the young Hudson!

Barnacle13

Or perhaps Mac and Heather will renue their vows....Naw...too simple :)

Ben

[ladymako71]

Or perhaps Mac and Heather will renue their vows....Naw...too simple :)

yet so simple I don't think it's ever BEEN done in comics! Wouldn't that be the coolest of AF was the first?

[Ben]

It really would be pretty cool. There have been plenty of weddings, but dunno about anyone renewing their vows....

Ben

[ladymako71]

wink wink hint hint Scott? I did a check and so far have found nothing suggesting a renewal of vows in comics.

[jay042]

It'd be nice to see Heather and Mac actually as a couple again. Their relationship hasn't been part of the story since the original Byrne run.

It's nice that the two of them are back together since X-men Unlimited #45 (that the issue?) Though I'd have expected Heather might have opted to be a full time mom since the birth of Jamie. She always had a very maternal nature anyway. Since this incarnation of Alpha is practicly the original team Mac commanded I could see her stepping aside to give Mac the leadership role.

[bigbloo]

That really would be cool. Though im still not happy with Mac being alive again, now that he is, i'd be very to see more of Heather and Mac's relationship. Ive always liked the way they were together in the beginning, it seemed very natural and admirable.

[Richv1]

I am in complete agreement I would love to see Mac and Heather renew their vows. And I would love to see them being more of a couple. We seem to be losing all the perfect couples in comics Scott and Jean (Jean died), Reed and Sue(problems because of his scared face). Flash and his wife spilt up. At least Clark and Lois are still together.
Having Mac and Heather renew their vows maybe for the 12th issue and have it double sized would be nice. And of course have the X-Men there and other heroes. All the past members of Alpha, Beta and Gamma Flights could attend. It could be a big affair. Maybe past villians could try to crash it and get stopped before they get there.

[kozzi24]

They can renew their vows, then name the baby after the minister!

[ladymako71]

I have several of these marked for notifications and my email just hiccuped.

thanks for the inbox explosion dude... =/