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Airhead
06-16-2004, 10:54 PM
I just got back from the comic book store with the newest issues of New X-Men and X-Men. Chuck Austen has a very sold story line going on right now and I think that it is the best store that he's written so far in working with this team of characters. I like his new villians in this issue but there was some odd dialoge. I think New X-Men was great! There's the most about Dust in this issue than the whole year that she's been created. And the kids are put into teams! (and play a game of basketball!)
That is all about my comics.
I created this thread to talk about what comics you bought this week and what you liked or disliked about them! :D
Talk away!

DelBubs
06-17-2004, 06:22 AM
Hiya Erik/Airhead (which do you prefer) and welcome to the boards. I haven't picked up in almost two months so have a number of books to pick up when I get there. I never use to pick up anything with a X in the title, but that changed when Austen and Tieri started using AF characters in their stories. In regards to Austen, well I'd rather not go there, but each to their own I suppose.

Which books do you pick up monthly, ie: whats on your pull list?

kozzi24
06-17-2004, 09:54 AM
Austen did the great War Machine black & white series. I recently remembered that and that being the reason I anticipated his run on X-Men.
And I've thought the majority of that has been pretty bad, and his Avengers has me seriously not liking him.
That said, the last issue of X-Men wasn't bad, although it has me questioning the need to have reformed Juggernaut, because this issue has him taking the role of pet character: smarter than the others, etc. He is also concentrating on Josh/Jay Guthrie, who has angelic wings and healing abilities, which makes the character such a blatant copy of that other guy with wings and healing powers that I am actually sickened by the utter lack of originality.
The overall issue was decent, though, best he's done since before the Alpha with battle armor.

DelBubs
06-17-2004, 10:06 AM
Give it a couple of years and the Guthries will have their very own comic. Sam, Paige and Josh/Jay so far, about four more too go. Imagine the book 'The X-Guthrie, Y'all' written by Chuck with art by Calimee :-)

Phil
06-17-2004, 10:09 AM
Austen seems to do fine when he has one book per month with editors that actually edit.

It's when he's spread over 7 books with one set of editors that the plots seem to get stretched out to ridicule and have glaring continuity errors.

I don't think that all the hatred people have for him is right.

Marvel tended to use him as a go-to man at short notice for lots of books (Captain America, Eden's Trail, Exiles) as well as giving him 18 issues per year of Uncanny, and arcs on Avengers, War Machine v2.0, The Eternals. Plus his Superman:Metropolis maxi series for DC.

It's now looking like he'll be off X-Men from #170, and will just be writing his 2 titles for DC.

kozzi24
06-17-2004, 10:18 AM
I don't want to bash him both on general principle and in deference to works of his that I have enjoyed.

His average now seems split, one horrendous story (or elements so bad they ruin the story) for every one good one.

I think one of his main faults is pet characters, Juggernaut, Annie, new Cap Britain, Josh/Jay.

I don't really look forward to "Avengers" with all characters who have never been Avengers before, but I greeted it as good news that Austen is leaving, and can't say I'm sorry to see him leave X-Men.

I wish him the best: May he have a very successful exclusive with DC, because I don't read much DC anyway.

beetleblack
06-17-2004, 10:18 AM
I think they should do a series called "Skin and Bone" which centres around Husk and Marrow attempting to launch themselves as super models with hilarious results. It could also feature Donetella Versace (hey, she isn't a mutant I don't know who is!).

Either that or "Sage and Onion" centring around Sage and Husk (now calling herself Onion - because of the many layers of skin and not JUST to fit the title *ahem*). The two mutant ladies would travel around solving murder mysteries like the UK's very own TV hit "Rosemary and Thyme" (people outside of the UK think 'Murder She Wrote' with HRT but less sexappeal).

Do you think I should submit these ideas to Marvel??? Oh and if I suggest Wolverine guest stars do you think I'll stand a better chance????

beetleblack
06-17-2004, 10:24 AM
I don't want to bash him both on general principle and in deference to works of his that I have enjoyed.

His average now seems split, one horrendous story (or elements so bad they ruin the story) for every one good one.

I think one of his main faults is pet characters, Juggernaut, Annie, new Cap Britain, Josh/Jay.

I don't really look forward to "Avengers" with all characters who have never been Avengers before, but I greeted it as good news that Austen is leaving, and can't say I'm sorry to see him leave X-Men.

I wish him the best: May he have a very successful exclusive with DC, because I don't read much DC anyway.

Do we know what he'll be writing at DC?

And is the Avengers now a completely different team or something??? I heard they were killing them all off to mark it's 500 issue (which seems like an awful idea!) but wasn't sure if it was true or not.

Phil
06-17-2004, 10:28 AM
He's already writing one of the Superman titles (Action Comics I think?) and JLA.

kozzi24
06-17-2004, 10:28 AM
I think it's #499 next week. The Invaders arc has NOT been bad, but the whole Hawkeye Wasp thing undermines it with blatant contradiction to the characters. Whatever happened to the Wasp who wouldn't date one of Hank's friends? Or the loyalty Hawkeye showed to Hank in AWC?
One of those good stories ruined by one element.

kozzi24
06-17-2004, 10:29 AM
Pitch this one:

I think they should do a series called "Skin and Bone" which centres around Husk and Marrow attempting to launch themselves as super models with hilarious results.
and do include Wolverine

beetleblack
06-17-2004, 10:34 AM
Pitch this one:

I think they should do a series called "Skin and Bone" which centres around Husk and Marrow attempting to launch themselves as super models with hilarious results.
and do include Wolverine

Okay, let's call it "Skin, Bone and Hair" - Wolverine can be their agent and he can have a fight with Donetella Versace who has the ability to make her skin hard and leathery!!!

kozzi24
06-17-2004, 10:36 AM
Simply "Skin and Bone" is a catchier title.
Maybe a spin off with Wolverine and Venom, "Hair and Teeth"?

beetleblack
06-17-2004, 10:36 AM
I think it's #499 next week. The Invaders arc has NOT been bad, but the whole Hawkeye Wasp thing undermines it with blatant contradiction to the characters. Whatever happened to the Wasp who wouldn't date one of Hank's friends? Or the loyalty Hawkeye showed to Hank in AWC?
One of those good stories ruined by one element.

Sadly this often seems to happen when different writers get a hold of characters, they end up completely messing them around... although from what I've heard Austen has a real talent for it!

kozzi24
06-17-2004, 10:37 AM
Or maybe a spin off with Husk and Angel and Northstar, "Skin and Foreskin"?

Phil
06-17-2004, 11:01 AM
Simply "Skin and Bone" is a catchier title.
Maybe a spin off with Wolverine and Venom, "Hair and Teeth"?

Heh, there was a Wolverine/Venom ltd series called Claw and Tooth about 8 years ago :lol: :lol:

HappyCanuck
06-17-2004, 11:22 AM
Give it a couple of years and the Guthries will have their very own comic. Sam, Paige and Josh/Jay so far, about four more too go. Imagine the book 'The X-Guthrie, Y'all' written by Chuck with art by Calimee :-)


ACtually, Del, four of the Guthrie squids are confirmed Mutants: Sam, Paige, Josh/Jay (which ever he's going by this issue), and Jeb - who was shown with optical/electrical abilities at the beginning of the 'She Lies with Angels' arc in UXM.

DelBubs
06-17-2004, 11:50 AM
Four!!, well their ya go, they could take over from the FF as the first family of the super hero world.

My lack of knowledge re the fourth Guthrie mutant, would seem to highlight how much notice I take of an UXM book when NS's not in it.

Phil
06-17-2004, 12:17 PM
I've got to say, I really enjoyed #158.

Airhead
06-17-2004, 12:49 PM
ACtually, Del, four of the Guthrie squids are confirmed Mutants: Sam, Paige, Josh/Jay (which ever he's going by this issue), and Jeb - who was shown with optical/electrical abilities at the beginning of the 'She Lies with Angels' arc in UXM.

......and don't forget Melody.
Yes, she is a Guthrie, too.
I promised myself that I'm going to stop bashing Chuck.
He can put out some good stuff (Exiles).
Moving on.........
What about other comics this week.......what did you like and what did you not like?

ladymako71
06-17-2004, 03:19 PM
I'll have to get back to ya on Saturday. The last thing I picked up was AF #4, and I've already rambled quite a bit about that one. ^^

ladymako71
06-19-2004, 10:33 PM
okay...it's saturday which emans I went and got my weekly fix of books.

I only picked up two of them. Ultimate X-Men and New X-Men...

One has JP one doesn't =p

The one that has JP in it made me laugh. "is he single?" with a crooked grin plastered on his mug had me rolling.

And damn you! first you taunt the slashers then you burn his eyes out! grrr.

I'm gonna go back to bed now and die.

ladymako71
06-21-2004, 02:03 PM
I also happen to know that if Portugal goes "BOOM!" all of a sudden it's because me manic fangirl mate there saw what they've done to the X-Men and particularly Gambit...

She's already declared war on Marvel for benching JP.

Airhead
06-24-2004, 03:23 PM
I just got my comics for the week today! :D
I bought Mystique#16, Weapon X#25, Excalibur#2, and Astonishing X-Men#2.
I liked all of the issues but I didn't like the last page of Astonishing X-Men....

DelBubs
06-26-2004, 10:08 AM
Just been and picked up for the first time in a couple of months, apart from little bits I've picked up on fleeting visits. Anyways picked up
Weapon X #23-25
Uncanny X-Men #445 (Staying to the end of this arc, no Northstar, no me)
Supreme Power #10
Alpha Flight #4 (will comment elsewhere, and all packages are winging their way to appropriate parties)

Stormwatch Team Achilles #22-23 (sodding Micah Wright and his big stories, cos he's a lying **** :^o , we don't get to see the end of the story. ) Sodding Wildstorm and their principles :-) )
Authority #12-13 ( ED Brubaker next =D> )
Authority 'More Kev' #1-2

Wanted #4 (Read this in the pub, actually enjoying the series a lot)
Holed Up #2
Hellblazer #196-197 (will 200 ever get here)
Queen & Country #25 (Pure class)

C.S.I Demon House #4 of 5
The Shield #5 of 5
Silent Hill #4-5 of 5

Transmet Book 10 'One More Time' (last TPB, but am aware that there is a one off Spider story out soon)

Phil
06-26-2004, 10:21 AM
The Shield #5 of 5

Drat... I missed this.
Shall haveta search fer it.

DelBubs
06-26-2004, 10:34 AM
I missed out on Cla$$war #5 and still have Sleeper vol 1 TPB on hold. Volume 2 is out next week so another **** load of dosh next week :-(

As for Shield #5, didn't know you were collecting Phil, I have heard that a second series in in the offing.

DelBubs
07-08-2004, 12:22 PM
Just picked up, still haven't gotten Cla$$war #5, but if I remember the next time, it's a definate. So anyways picked up
Alpha Flight #5 (more of this elsewhere)
C.S.I Demon House #5 (read the first issue to get the gist, but will now read all five together, see what it's like in it's entirety)
30 Days of Night : Return To Barrow #4 (Gonna wait till the end of the series before I read it. Haven't read since #1)
Uncanny X-Men #446 : Biggest question, will I actually bother to read this?
Supreme Power #11 : Loving this series immensely. Although the parallels with Rising Stars are hard to ignore. (Re Rising Stars : the final three are due out sometimes soon, or so I've been led to believe.

kozzi24
07-09-2004, 10:52 AM
Supreme Power #11 : Loving this series immensely. Although the parallels with Rising Stars are hard to ignore. (Re Rising Stars : the final three are due out sometimes soon, or so I've been led to believe.
also loving this


Uncanny X-Men #446
I thought it was good, but the concentration on Sage as Claremont's latest pet character took a point off the score. It was great seeing Nightcrawler Storm and Wolverine interacting under Claremont's pen, although I really don't need Wolverine in every X-Team

DelBubs
07-09-2004, 11:04 AM
Supreme Power #11 : Loving this series immensely. Although the parallels with Rising Stars are hard to ignore. (Re Rising Stars : the final three are due out sometimes soon, or so I've been led to believe.
also loving this


Uncanny X-Men #446
I thought it was good, but the concentration on Sage as Claremont's latest pet character took a point off the score. It was great seeing Nightcrawler Storm and Wolverine interacting under Claremont's pen, although I really don't need Wolverine in every X-Team

Supreme Power is probably JMS's best comic work so far IMO, the books are nicely paced and all seem to be heading for a rousing finale before it takes a six month hiatus while Doctor Spectrum gets his six issue limited. I've already got that down on my list at the shop. I'm sure somwhere that Gary Frank has said the scripts for #13 and onwards are in his possesion, cos there was concerns that SP would wind up after twelve issues. Personally I can't se Marvel letting it go.

I gotta admit that Claremont has improved the book tenfold since he came back, but I have to agre with the Wolverine thing, maybe he has lots of brothers. :-)

Airhead
07-09-2004, 01:48 PM
This week I bought......:
StarJammers #1 - Meh. I didn't really like it that much....
Exiles #49 - It was pretty good. Loved the art but the writing is still not working for me in this book.
Uncanny X-Men #446 - I loved this issue! The art is great and so is the writing! Claremont and Davis is the best team ever! :D (but I still want Wolvie out of this book.........)
and last but not least.....
Alpha Flight #5!
This issue was very good. The best this series has had yet! :D

DelBubs
07-09-2004, 02:02 PM
Re Starjammers : I was kinda interested in this when I first heard about it, but when it became clear it was gonn abe slightly different than the way I knew them I kinda thought nope.

Re Exiles and AF : I don't read Exiles, but have picked up a couple of issues for Alt Af appearences. With AF, I'm with ya 100%

As for Uncanny, I'm glad that Claremont is back on the book and agree that it's the best UXM has been in a very long while, very reminiscent of when I first read it. Unfortunately I resally do not care enough about any of the characters and think Wolvie is being over used big time. In a way I'm glad he never came back to AF, it would have been okay for dragging in new readers, but all long before he would have taken over the book completely and it became Wolvie and his Amazing Friends.

kozzi24
07-09-2004, 02:52 PM
As long as his appearance is thought out and has a reason aside boosting sales, Wolverine's always welcome in AF due to his longstanding friendship with Mac & Heather and his newer true friendship to Puck (hey, they go fishing together!)

To border creator bashing, I would not accept a free issue of Starjammers because I really consider KJA to be the premier hack of modern times. Uninspired, often cliche, and his prose reads exactly as it was written: spoken into voice recognition software with no more subsequent editing than it takes to remove the "uhs'and "ums". He bills himself as a bestselling author, but he's had no success standing on his own: either he's partnered with Beason or he's writing other people's properties.
Dark Horse should thank KJA: he's the reason I stopped my completionist attitude of Star Wars comics, and once that happened, it wasn't long before I took a hard look at my Star Wars buying, which led me to drop Republic and Empire. I've gotten the Infinities (GREAT STUFF!) and the movie adaptations, but nothing else.

I do solemnly swear not to indulge in further KJA and/or current Starjammer conversations on the principle "if you have nothing nice to say" but really needed to rant when I saw Starjammers brought up.