What about baby Hudson

[sengsterooney]

Ah, I went down to the comic store the other day and committed a cardinal sin: I read #6 of AF in the store but didn't buy it (!). I know... I know... very bad... but you wouldn't believe how expensive comics here in Oz are these days ($5.80 for an ish of AF).

Anyway, so the original Alphans have all gone to space to help the Plodex reestablish their planet... which begs the question: who's going to look after baby Hudson? Maybe Mac and Heather have a wet nurse?

Seng

[kozzi24]

You must have read it too fast. They stopped on the way to bring the baby.
Any of the Plodex should be able to serve as a (very) wet nurse.

[birdygirl]

Yes, Mac and Heather did stop by their home to get the baby. (But who was taking care of her in the meantime?) :?:

BTW, has the Hudson baby ever been named? Yet another no-name Alpha child! (See also Walter's son and Snowbird's baby boy.) :)

[Major Mapleleaf Jr]

All of this begs the question... WHY bring the baby Hudson, and risk her life if this whole Plodex-reseeding idea blows up in Alpha Flight's face? Not to mention the many, many other risks of traveling through deep space in the Marvel Universe. Good Lord, Heather, leave the child with someone RESPONSIBLE if you're so hell-bent on this Plodex thing.

[Canucklehead]

Forget the name, do we even know the sex of the baby yet?

Well, space is the one places where if anything happens, you don't question it. I've got a feeling we'll see baby Hudson come back as a young adult and become a new Guardian without the need to wear a "power suit" so Jimmy and Heather can retire. Just an assumption, but come on, how many other super team leaders have had kids that age normaly? (Isn't something going on with Franklin Richards right now being the new herrald of Galactus? or is that just a rumor?)

Anyway, my thoughts. Very predictable and not very original, but possible.

D.

[Barnacle13]

You know this thread brings up a ton of questions. Where you gonna find Pampers in space? And where do you dispose of that toxic waste? The Plodex ships didn't look that big and I'm sure most of the cargo area is Plodex eggs. How's the kid gonna potty train in zero gravity?

[jay042]

I assume the ships have garvity fields so no worries there, as for daipers though....

Wasn't it X-men Unlimited #75 the issue where the child was born? I have it lying around here somewhere, and I was certain they established that it was a girl.

[Ben]

Yes, it is a girl.

Ben

[Ottawa Renegade]

All of this begs the question... WHY bring the baby Hudson, and risk her life if this whole Plodex-reseeding idea blows up in Alpha Flight's face? Not to mention the many, many other risks of traveling through deep space in the Marvel Universe. Good Lord, Heather, leave the child with someone RESPONSIBLE if you're so hell-bent on this Plodex thing.

I would have preferred if Mac had gone against Heather's wishes. There are all kinds of past instances when she's been annoyed with him fo rbeing too buried in his work. It would have been perfectly in character.

So what if Heather chose to stay behind? I doubt it would have forced any changes to the current storyline. We're not going to see the originals in quite some time now I gather, so one excuse (out in space) is as agood as another (raising baby).

[PWalk]

You know this thread brings up a ton of questions. Where you gonna find Pampers in space? And where do you dispose of that toxic waste? ?

"Electromagnetic diapers :wink: " Vaporize the crap as it hits the tooshie.

[Sir John A.]

Maybe we're meant to believe that maybe the original Alphans weren't in their right mind? Was something influencing their thoughts?

[PWalk]

Maybe we're meant to believe that maybe the original Alphans weren't in their right mind? Was something influencing their thoughts?

You know I thought the same thing. What if while they were all hooked up the Plodex downloaded some false memories or something into their craniums. Somehow convincing them or making them feel they had to escort the eggs back.

[Mokole]

Like in one episode of Star Trek Enterprise?

Having baby girl Hudson come back as a super powered teen who takes on the codename Guardian works for me.

[kozzi24]

As I said on another thread, VERY irresponsible for Walt to just let them go without thorough examinations--physical and psychological.

[Phil]

Hardly irresponsible.
It's not like they're his team, or that he can tell them what to do.

[Sir John A.]

No they're not his team; they're his friends.

[Phil]

So a friend would respect a friends wishes and leave them be rather than try and impose their own wishes upon them...

[Le Messor]

A true friend would make sure it was the friend's wishes, and not an alien influence, before letting them do something incredibly stupid while at the same time destroying their daughter's life.

A true friend would care more about their friend's wellfare than PC wishes being imposed upon them.

Man, I'm feisty today.

- Le Messor
"Banning the bra was a big flop."

[Sir John A.]

Friends don't let friends drive drunk :wink:

[Mokole]

I'm not so concerned with what Walt should've done, Hudsons make their own mistakes.

For me I'd like to see Byrne AF return around issue 30 after having gone through a time warp. Great time to bring back the Dreamqueen and have a truly intense storyline.

Sarah Hudson (my predicted name for baby Hudson) is 17 and has super powers (after all, those Mac Hudson suits did more than alter the Byrne Hudson's brain chemistry...). Her parents have sworn off the super hero gig. Judd Puck and Shaman basically have too. Earthmover is dead, Snowbird has rejoined the Northern Gods (they weren't happy about the Plodex escapade).

But before they can land they, along with most paranormals in Canada and ANADAF, are attacked by Box robots (thus Earthmover is killed).

The paranormals are killed, ANADAF loses Centenniel and Yukon Jack (Just 2 because Dreamqueen miscalculated, she thought she was dealing with Byrne AF and had Box create robots to defeat them), Sarah Hudson with Shaman's help saves the rest of Byrne AF from certain death.

Back on the ground Shaman searches for a new mystic to train and replace him, he just can't do it by himself (I figure he'll find a young man or women who Dreamqueen overlooked in Nunavut).

Judd Puck takes on the task of helping coordinate ANADAF in this crisis. Byrne Hudsons go home and keep in touch. Sarah takes on the code name Guardian but no Mac suit, she uses her own powers.

So from issue 32 to issue 35 it's ANADAF (Sasquatch, Puck, Guardian, Nemesis, Major Mapleleaf, and Plodex thing vs. the Dreamqueen's forces lead by Box, Aurora, Goblyn, and Pathway (People Dreamqueen finds she can finally control completely). And ANADAF has their true Big Enemy.

Then on to more ANADAF with this team for another 150 issues... {nemesis}

[maniac mike]

I would have it where Mac and Heather ask Logan what a good name for his "goddaughter" would be, and of course the name "Rose" would pop into his head. :roll:

[Canucklehead]

I would have it where Mac and Heather ask Logan what a good name for his "goddaughter" would be, and of course the name "Rose" would pop into his head. :roll:

Well, I'd much prefer "Rose" over some of Logan's past aquantainces. "Maggot" anybody? lol

Anyway, with Marvels tendency to ignore continuity, I hope to god some Wolverine writer doesn't ignore the Plodex storyline because he would like Guardian or Chuck Moss to guest star in an issue. This would make the ANADAF book look unimportant and people will perceive it as a joke book. Well.... more so. lol

D.

[sengsterooney]

Well, the way I see it, most parents these days don't bat an eyelid about taking their baby overseas if mum/dad happens to snag a job in a different country. Heck, I've even got friends who take newborns on European holidays (bear in mind that I am in Australia, so Europe is almost like the other side of the world). So, perhaps Mac and Heather taking Baby Hudson to space is sorta similar...?

... or maybe not?

But think of the opportunity... when Baby Hudson (BH) is in Grade 1, she can tell her schoolmates that she's been to space (and the Plodex planet)! How many 6 year olds can claim that?

:-)

[kozzi24]

Does anyone remember the twins analogy, one in space, one on earth, the one in space ages SLOWER? Do we need the daughter (I always think "Emma" as the name, but have no idea where that came from!) to be rapidly aged. The problem with Alpha history is having too many new characters that never get develpoed. Let the kid grow up in peace, eh?

I would just as soon see some of the other Alphas guest starring in other books than being inaccessible and unseen for who knows how long.
With Walt's current team in place, the Hudsons could have taken sabbatical to be with her, Shaman could have gone off to teach what's-his-name. The absence of Puck and Snowbird could have been handled similarly, either slight injury or even just those 2 Alphas leaving to escort the Plodex. Snowbird should be dead still anyway, so no biggie if she's not seen. I think making the opriginals inaccessible was a huge mistake on Scott's part. An appearance by people known as Alpha Flight in say Wolverine would get some curiosity buyers to the AF title even if the character in Wolverine weren't in those issues of AF. The saving grace is that with the references that Puck2 doesn't know her father or who he is but Walt does seem to know those things would indicate that Scott has plans for a climax to that story, hopefully not all that far off.

[Ben]

I would just as soon see some of the other Alphas guest starring in other books than being inaccessible and unseen for who knows how long.
With Walt's current team in place, the Hudsons could have taken sabbatical to be with her, Shaman could have gone off to teach what's-his-name. The absence of Puck and Snowbird could have been handled similarly, either slight injury or even just those 2 Alphas leaving to escort the Plodex. Snowbird should be dead still anyway, so no biggie if she's not seen. I think making the opriginals inaccessible was a huge mistake on Scott's part. An appearance by people known as Alpha Flight in say Wolverine would get some curiosity buyers to the AF title even if the character in Wolverine weren't in those issues of AF. The saving grace is that with the references that Puck2 doesn't know her father or who he is but Walt does seem to know those things would indicate that Scott has plans for a climax to that story, hopefully not all that far off.

I'm guessing he did this as he was hoping to do the spin-off Uncanny AF, and tell the story of the journy. At least as a mini, that would be great if the current title settles in with passable sales.

Ben

[Le Messor]

There are time I think Scott Lobdell doesn't know what he's talking about, and this thread's reminded me of a huge chunk of that.
He claims that the original AF has been cancelled twice, which is proof that it doesn't sell.

Wrong.

The original AF's never been cancelled. It's changed almost beyond recognition, the whole team's gone away, and then been cancelled. Weapon X #0 was brought in, slapped with the name of AF, and been cancelled.
The original AF guest-stars in serieses and increases sales.

Yeah, I think sending them off-planet was a Big Mistake. (As Arnie would say. In Last Action Hero, anyway. Who says I'm fair?)

- Le Messor
"Avoid run-on sentences they are hard to read."

[cmdrkoenig67]

Yay, La Messor! I agree with you, man! Maybe Scott was misquoted, but regardless...the statement is false(just like you said).

I agree with your "Big Mistake" statement too, but with one slight difference.....Big mistake #1 has already happened(IMHO....the exclusion of the original team as the stars/supporting cast of the new series).

Sending the original team(except Sassy)into space is Big mistake #2(again IMHO) .

Regardless of what a SOME of folks here, think or feel....most people(or at least judging from most of the opinions I've read online...and from seeing the sales of Vol.2)....The original team(Byrne's) IS Alpha Flight and always will be the only AF. The constant glut of new and never-developed characters serves to only dilute the original idea and cause readers to lose interest. Without the originals in the book...it will be very hard to make any series a success(but not impossible).

Dana

[Phil]

All I'm saying is see where Scott takes the book....

[Mokole]

If I wrote AF the Hudsons would be off in Dept H, likely as Department head and Departmental overseer (assuming I couldn't leave Mac Hudson dead). Judd would be a trainer with AF, and strategist. Shaman and Sasquatch would be part of the team unless I had Talisman instead of Shaman, then he'd be in an advisory role too. The twins would be getting medical attention and would have nothing to do with AF. Snowbird would be a part-timer. Marrina would stay dead. The supersuits would be mothballed as the cyberhelmet needed to operate them alters brain chemistry and personality, permanently.

Sarah Hudson joins ANADAF as a girl with "psi-slash" powers, chucking psi discs which can interrupt or deflect any energy pathway (neural, electric, plasma, nuclear,...). Her costume scheme is reminiscent of Guardian's and she calls herself Guardian. After all, space travel can mean you come back 17 years older than you left. Maybe drop Yukon Jack, in time, to go back to 6 members.