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cmdrkoenig67
02-03-2005, 12:08 AM
Just a random AF discussion topic(not sure if it's come up here yet)....

Other than Marrina...alive, dead, undead or other....what other untied up plot threads, loose ends, dead ends, etc are still floating around for Alpha?
Discuss...LOL...

Dana

Mokole
02-03-2005, 12:46 AM
- Just how much of a machine is Mac Hudson
- What is baby Hudson's name
- What are "Legacies"
- Who really runs Dept. H
- After dying three times does Mac Hudson have any memories from, say, 5 years ago
- How are "Legacies" related to AF members, if at all


I'm sure that's about 1/5 of a good list.

kozzi24
02-03-2005, 08:34 AM
Two off the top of my head:
Walter's son
Dan Smallwood's crush on Marinna

HappyCanuck
02-03-2005, 10:58 AM
- After dying three times does Mac Hudson have any memories from, say, 5 years ago

Better question: After 3 deaths, how high are Mac's life insurance premiums? :lol:

To top off with my own
- If Narya's 'soul' (or whatever) is up there with the Arctic Gods, alongside the souls of her hubby and baby, then who's in Narya's clone's body? (interesting story potential there, imho)
- along the same note, does Walt have access to Narya's OTHER abilities? (the Sasquatch thing makes sence, since it's a form he's used to)

EDIT: WHOO HOO!! 500 posts in just over a year! (this includes a three month abduction by aliens)

kozzi24
02-03-2005, 01:11 PM
Another: what happens when Narya bleeds?
(My guess was she would vomit, as the real priblem was that she was just afraid of her own blood)

cmdrkoenig67
02-03-2005, 10:39 PM
LOL!

After being slashed by the Wendigo, Snowbird winces upon seeing blood flowing from the clawmarks on her flesh. "I...I BLEED!" She wails. Her eyes roll upward, fluttering and she falls to the ground, unconcious.

Dana

Le Messor
02-05-2005, 08:26 PM
She bled in #6. Apparently, she uses healing flames to, um, heal. I don't know what she's so afraid of?

Who is Nemesis? (I mean, what were -Byrne's- plans for her!!!)
What about Snowbird's crush on Hudson?
What about Aurora's third personality (c19-20, again, Byrne's plans).
Where am I?
Can Pink Pearl fly?
Who put the bop in the bop-shoo bop?
Will we ever have a villain survive one issue? (Byrne again)
What are Puck II's powers?
And who is she related to?

- Le Messor
"For an interviewer, you sure ask a lot of questions."
- Moe, -Striperella-

cmdrkoenig67
02-06-2005, 09:41 AM
Maybe Narya just has a superiority complex and believes she is above such things as bleeding....LOL. She was always a bit of an icequeen and a snob(in the Byrne issues).

LM....Plenty of Byrne's villains survived past one issue...Most of Omega Flight, The Master, Caliber, The Great Beasts(Tundra for one), The Macro Man, Pink Pearl(no...I don't think she can fly, but she certainly jumps pretty well for a big girl).

Dana

Le Messor
02-09-2005, 07:07 PM
Macro Man? You mean the five robots that became one robot? Not a villain. An army excercise.

Caliber? Not so much a villain as a joke.

I'll give you the Master. But Tundra died in both his appearances. :S and the other Beasts died in all theirs. More or less.

- Le Messor
"Cocaine isn’t habit forming. I should know – I’ve been using it for years."
– Talullah Bankhead

varo
02-09-2005, 08:16 PM
wait until everyone reads issue #12.

kozzi24
02-09-2005, 09:03 PM
Here's one that came to mind from one of the other threads...Heather never has been taken to task by ANYONE for her rather extreme solution to the Pestilence problem...she did KILL Snowbird

Defunct
02-09-2005, 09:08 PM
wait until everyone reads issue #12.
Heheheheheh. . .

Yeah, I think that one issue manages leaves enough loose ends for a lovely continuity bracelet of some sort.

kozzi24
02-28-2005, 10:14 AM
the Guardianship of the Dean sisters

jay042
02-28-2005, 10:49 AM
the Guardianship of the Dean sisters

I got the impression the Deans had finally reconciled with their children. They had last appeared just before (vol.1) #100 and were accepting of both of their daughters despite of their mutations.

kozzi24
02-28-2005, 10:32 PM
the Guardianship of the Dean sisters

I got the impression the Deans had finally reconciled with their children. They had last appeared just before (vol.1) #100 and were accepting of both of their daughters despite of their mutations.
Didn't Heather mention something about a custody issue relating to the Dean's desire to have wanted to abort Goblyn?

SephirothsKiller
03-17-2005, 12:54 AM
All of number twelve!! Such as the random deaths of centennial and nemisis!!

Garry/Al-Fan
03-17-2005, 01:47 PM
Another: what happens when Narya bleeds?


I never understood that because Snowbird and Kolomaq had a bloody battle (most of which we didn't get to see) in AFV1# 6. Is it the location in the United States that made her ultra-vulnerable? I wish it had been explained at the time so there would be no ambiguity.

Come to think of it, I wish we could've seen how Snowbird survived, because she looked in bad shape. I bet Shaman (not WHITMAN KNAPP) had something to do with it. Opps, being snarky/b***hy/cranky again.

Legerd
03-17-2005, 03:28 PM
...Is it the location in the United States that made her ultra-vulnerable? I wish it had been explained at the time so there would be no ambiguity.

When Narya was born Shaman bound her to Canada to help her take form, unfortunately, the way he did it meant if she left the country she would begin to die. It was explained in AF V1 #12 by Shaman: "This is my fault! When I delivered her I used my magics to bind her to humanity, to the land. I must have been too specific in my spell."

Legerd
03-17-2005, 03:36 PM
I never understood that because Snowbird and Kolomaq had a bloody battle (most of which we didn't get to see) in AFV1# 6.

Yeah, I think JB tried to come up with something cool in issue #12 but had forgotten what he had written in #6.

Garry/Al-Fan
03-18-2005, 11:39 AM
I never understood that because Snowbird and Kolomaq had a bloody battle (most of which we didn't get to see) in AFV1# 6.

Yeah, I think JB tried to come up with something cool in issue #12 but had forgotten what he had written in #6.
Understandable. Garry/Al-Fan

Ottawa Renegade
03-19-2005, 09:07 AM
Just a random AF discussion topic(not sure if it's come up here yet)....

Other than Marrina...alive, dead, undead or other....what other untied up plot threads, loose ends, dead ends, etc are still floating around for Alpha?
Discuss...LOL...

Dana

Wow. This could keep us going for a while... :shock:

Ottawa Renegade
03-19-2005, 09:10 AM
- If Narya's 'soul' (or whatever) is up there with the Arctic Gods, alongside the souls of her hubby and baby, then who's in Narya's clone's body? (interesting story potential there, imho)

That's my biggest one. Snowbird's...status, for lack of a better term, should be clarified.

seroquel
03-19-2005, 06:31 PM
Wasn't Narya's battle with Kolomaq supposed to be happening in a different realm? Or maybe not totally in this realm. Also, maybe the restriction is simply that mortal beings shouldn't make her bleed or all heck breaks loose.

I can't look at the issue as I am at work, hee hee. 8)

Legerd
03-22-2005, 10:23 PM
Wasn't Narya's battle with Kolomaq supposed to be happening in a different realm? Or maybe not totally in this realm. Also, maybe the restriction is simply that mortal beings shouldn't make her bleed or all heck breaks loose.

I can't look at the issue as I am at work, hee hee. 8)

No, it was on Earth.

Ottawa Renegade
03-22-2005, 10:50 PM
Another: what happens when Narya bleeds?

She...bleeds. I happen to be re-reading my older issues because I ordered a batch from Mile High Comics recently. When she said "I bleed" back then, I just took it to mean that she was surprised and scared. She even says something to the extent that it's never happened to her before and referred to the feeling of feeling her life drain away. I think she's just terrified of it.

Strange example, but kind of like when Jim Carrey's Grinch starts crying tears of joy and doesn't get what's going on. "I'm LEAKING!!!"

cmdrkoenig67
03-22-2005, 11:15 PM
...But she was pretty scraped up at the end of the battle with Kolomaq in issue six, I don't recall if she was actually bleeding(although she may have been). Why would she be so upset in 12 aboout bleeding, if she already bled in 6(if she did indeed, bleed from the battle)?

Dana

Legerd
03-23-2005, 12:07 AM
It was probably nothing more than a screw up on JB's part. He probably forgot what he wrote in #6 when he wrote #12.

Ottawa Renegade
03-25-2005, 01:11 PM
...But she was pretty scraped up at the end of the battle with Kolomaq in issue six, I don't recall if she was actually bleeding(although she may have been). Why would she be so upset in 12 aboout bleeding, if she already bled in 6(if she did indeed, bleed from the battle)?

Dana

Crap I *just* put #6 away. But that was the issue I was referring to. She DOES express concern about bleeding in #6. That's when she says that she feels her life drain away and gives the impression that's the first time it's ever happened. So for her to be freaked about it in #12 isn't surprising because she was freaked in #6 as well. We didn't see it because it was in one of the all-white panels.

Garry/Al-Fan
03-29-2005, 03:55 PM
Madison taking credit for altering the Box armor to accept Langkowski (I will update this with the issue # soon, but it's a MANTLO AF book!*) when Madison wasn't even there when Shaman infused the Box armor with Walter's soul in AFV1# 24!

* AFV1# 46, page 21, panels 3 & 4

Roger: "It's not possible! I designed the robot to accommodate my mind---my genetic matrix!"

Madison: "Ya had me modify it ta accommodate others in the past, Bochssie---Walter Langkowski, for one. I guess I never saw no need ta unmodify it..."
"...or ta use the modification ta give you the boot--till now!"


Three big problems: (1) Shaman infused Walter's soul into BOX, and Madison wasn't there; there was no DNA 'cause Walt's body was dust; (2) coming out of limbo and hopping from Smart Alec's body, Walt didn't use or need Madison's help fusing into the BOX armor, and; (3) earlier in # 46, Whitman reveals that Wanda is "an amalgam---of the man Walter Langkowski was, the woman and goddess Snowbird was, and the Great Beast both became." How gravedigger Madison managed to get the DNA from an entity like that needs to be explained.

cmdrkoenig67
04-02-2005, 11:24 PM
Crap I *just* put #6 away. But that was the issue I was referring to. She DOES express concern about bleeding in #6. That's when she says that she feels her life drain away and gives the impression that's the first time it's ever happened. So for her to be freaked about it in #12 isn't surprising because she was freaked in #6 as well. We didn't see it because it was in one of the all-white panels.

Thank you, OR. I had forgottent that she freaked out a bit(It's been a while since I read that one)...I should never rely on my crappy memory.

Dana