Aurora's Light powers

[-K-M-]

Hopefully you can all help me save some time. We know after Walter performed the operation on Aurora she gained new light powers. Such as concussion blasts, hypnotize opponents, healing powers. So my question is what issues does she use these new powers in.

She uses her healing powers or calming powers in AF #89 with the remnant men and Puck.[anymore issues?]

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/Alpha_Flight_v1_088_04.jpg

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/Alpha_Flight_v1_088_06.jpg

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http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/Alpha_Flight_v1_n089-02.jpg

Concussion blasts in X-Factor #116 [anymore issues?]
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/x-factor116b.jpg

When does she use her other abilities? and could she use her abilities to calm the Hulk? Some believe believe she won't be able to.

[HappyCanuck]

Another example of using her powers to calm/lull someone was in AF1.93, when she calmed the Human Torch enough to cut out his power, potentially falling blissfully a dozen metres to his doom...

[-K-M-]

Another example of using her powers to calm/lull someone was in AF1.93, when she calmed the Human Torch enough to cut out his power, potentially falling blissfully a dozen metres to his doom...

Awesome, I don't have that issue so I will go pick it up. Anymore? such as her using hypnotic powers?

[Ben]

a couple of things that come to mind.


AF 95: Jeanne-Marie Transformed into her new Light-Form to give hope to the destitute

AF 117: Jeanne-Marie makes a light show to blind the children of the night
AF 118: Jeanne-Marie uses her hypnotic light powers to subdue Thunderball
AF 119: Aurora shoots lightnight at the Wrecker

Ben

[-K-M-]

a couple of things that come to mind.

AF 95: Jeanne-Marie Transformed into her new Light-Form to give hope to the destitute
AF 117: Jeanne-Marie makes a light show to blind the children of the night
AF 118: Jeanne-Marie uses her hypnotic light powers to subdue Thunderball
AF 119: Aurora shoots lightnight at the Wrecker

Ben

Ahah! thanks alot, I have the Children of the Night issue, but didn't have #95, or 118-119. Also sorry but what does lightnight do?

Thanks to both of you

[Ben]

heh, sorry, typo! I'm dead-tired. lightning is what I meant.

Ben

[-K-M-]

heh, sorry, typo! I'm dead-tired. lightning is what I meant.

Ben

Haha no worries, I have been in study mode for my crappy exams for the past two weeks. Also I didn't know she shot out lightening, I have to pick that up.

[Ben]

Here are a couple images that apply:

From #95
http://www.alphaflight.net/character_galleries/aurora/aurora_gallery12.jpg

From #117
http://www.alphaflight.net/character_galleries/aurora/aurora_gallery13.jpg

Ben

[-K-M-]

I liked Aurora's hooded look, it didn't last to long though.

Thanks for the pics

[-K-M-]

Another example of using her powers to calm/lull someone was in AF1.93, when she calmed the Human Torch enough to cut out his power, potentially falling blissfully a dozen metres to his doom...

You sure about that actually? human torch doesn't even appear in #93 until the end of the fight.

[-K-M-]

Here is Aurora using lightening against the Wrecker
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/Alpha_Flight_v1_119_11.jpg

[HappyCanuck]

Another example of using her powers to calm/lull someone was in AF1.93, when she calmed the Human Torch enough to cut out his power, potentially falling blissfully a dozen metres to his doom...

You sure about that actually? human torch doesn't even appear in #93 until the end of the fight.

Oops, I meant 94. I had read both issues recently, and got them confused.

[-K-M-]

Oops, I meant 94. I had read both issues recently, and got them confused.

alright fine I will let it slide just this once, next time your up for assassination :D

Now I have to get issue #94
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Anymore scenes that Aurora has calmed people down or used lightening again?

[Legerd]

Oops, I meant 94. I had read both issues recently, and got them confused.

alright fine I will let it slide just this once, next time your up for assassination :D

KM's new hobby: regicide!

[rplass]

In the Age of Apocalypse title, "Tales from the Age of Apocalypse: Sinister Bloodlines", Aurora uses a lightning strike power. She also shoots bolts of lightning in Factor X #2, also an Age of Apocalypse title. I guess those don't really count because it's an alternate reality, but I thought I'd mention them.

Love,
rplass

[-K-M-]

In the Age of Apocalypse title, "Tales from the Age of Apocalypse: Sinister Bloodlines", Aurora uses a lightning strike power. She also shoots bolts of lightning in Factor X #2, also an Age of Apocalypse title. I guess those don't really count because it's an alternate reality, but I thought I'd mention them.

Love,
rplass

It counts thanks a lot. I will check them out

[kozzi24]

On another thread, someone had recently decried how the fans and not the writers and editors give explanations for discrepencies. The last pic on this thread showed Simon Furman attempting to explain the differences in the twins' use of power. Differences between the twins would be a natural effect of Walter's adjustment to Aurora, and differences in the personalities would serve for better characterization.

I for one would like to see the powers of Northstar, Aurora and Jeanne-Marie differentiated more to make each a more specific asset to the team and briong less repetition to the team.

I see Northstar as superspeed flight and able to produce a blinding glow. Aurora/J-M can fly and move faster than human, but no longer anywhere near as fast as Northstar Aurora would weild more offensive uses of the light, while only Jeanne-Marie would be capable of the lulling and healing aspects of the light.

Also looking at the panel with the wrecker, I don't know if the intent would be to generate actual ELECTRICAL lightning. The wrecker called it that because that's probably what it looked like. Aurora was calling out for him to "burn" not to fry or zap, and the caption would also indicate that her burst was light energy, not lightning.

[-K-M-]

I see Northstar as superspeed flight and able to produce a blinding glow. Aurora/J-M can fly and move faster than human, but no longer anywhere near as fast as Northstar Aurora would weild more offensive uses of the light, while only Jeanne-Marie would be capable of the lulling and healing aspects of the light.

Also looking at the panel with the wrecker, I don't know if the intent would be to generate actual ELECTRICAL lightning. The wrecker called it that because that's probably what it looked like. Aurora was calling out for him to "burn" not to fry or zap, and the caption would also indicate that her burst was light energy, not lightning.

We don't know the other things the Hand gave Northstar, apparently his own words he says there is more. Also is Aurora still mach 1 even after the Weapon X experiments and boost? She can speed up things now.

Problem with that is if you get hit by lightening you actually do burn. Also I just picked up the AoA editions and even then Aurora mentions electrical powers. Her exact words, "Cochon! You've hurt Jean-Paul! With every last volt of electricity coursing through my body-I will make you regret-"

[syvalois]

"Cochon! You've hurt Jean-Paul! With every last volt of electricity coursing through my body-I will make you regret-"

lol. She's saying the guy is a pig. When she say that, I always get the mental image of the guy been an exhibitionist or that he cheated on her. Or the guy is a lot dirty and need a bath fast.

[-K-M-]

"Cochon! You've hurt Jean-Paul! With every last volt of electricity coursing through my body-I will make you regret-"

lol. She's saying the guy is a pig. When she say that, I always get the mental image of the guy been an exhibitionist or that he cheated on her. Or the guy is a lot dirty and need a bath fast.

haha that's one way to visualize it
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EDIT: Here are the two scans

Factor X #2
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/FactorX2.jpg

Sinister Bloodlines
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/sinisterbloodlines.jpg

[kozzi24]

I see Northstar as superspeed flight and able to produce a blinding glow. Aurora/J-M can fly and move faster than human, but no longer anywhere near as fast as Northstar Aurora would weild more offensive uses of the light, while only Jeanne-Marie would be capable of the lulling and healing aspects of the light.

Also looking at the panel with the wrecker, I don't know if the intent would be to generate actual ELECTRICAL lightning. The wrecker called it that because that's probably what it looked like. Aurora was calling out for him to "burn" not to fry or zap, and the caption would also indicate that her burst was light energy, not lightning.

We don't know the other things the Hand gave Northstar, apparently his own words he says there is more. Also is Aurora still mach 1 even after the Weapon X experiments and boost? She can speed up things now.

Problem with that is if you get hit by lightening you actually do burn. Also I just picked up the AoA editions and even then Aurora mentions electrical powers. Her exact words, "Cochon! You've hurt Jean-Paul! With every last volt of electricity coursing through my body-I will make you regret-"
You're absolutely right, but I still don't like it...the powers, that is. To me it's a matter of not letting things get too convoluted. She's a speedster, used to be able to generate blinding light when she touches her brother's hand, but now they nullify each other's powers (or do they still) and she used to be faster but now he is, and he suppresses his light abilities, and she can shoot concussive light and mesmerizing light and now lightning, which indicates maybe she can control other aspects of the weather if she can generate winds by flying fast and lightning, or maybe she controls electromagnetic spectrum and is really the daughter of Magneto...lol.

[-K-M-]

You're absolutely right, but I still don't like it...the powers, that is. To me it's a matter of not letting things get too convoluted. She's a speedster, used to be able to generate blinding light when she touches her brother's hand, but now they nullify each other's powers (or do they still) and she used to be faster but now he is, and he suppresses his light abilities, and she can shoot concussive light and mesmerizing light and now lightning, which indicates maybe she can control other aspects of the weather if she can generate winds by flying fast and lightning, or maybe she controls electromagnetic spectrum and is really the daughter of Magneto...lol.

Don't know if they still cancel each other out, I have no idea the process Weapon X did to her other than give her the "speed" things up ability and tear apart molecules.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/WeaponX01-10.jpg

Actually Northstar was always faster, but Aurora had better endurance [Alpha Flight #1].

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AlphaFlight01-24.jpg

With her having so much variety with her powers, it's not like a writer is going to use them anyways. Like really even in Weapon X from what I recall she never did one flashbang, or anything with her light powers. If written to her what her abilities she can do it's possible she could even take the Hulk. [Calming light weaken him, give him a speed blitz charging up his entire body]
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Sidenote: can anyone get me scans of Aurora calming Human tourch? I'm on back order for the issue and it won't arrive for awhile.

[HappyCanuck]

Don't say I never gave you anything for Christmas...

http://forum.alphaflight.net/album_pic.php?pic_id=497
http://forum.alphaflight.net/album_pic.php?pic_id=498

[-K-M-]

Don't say I never gave you anything for Christmas...

http://forum.alphaflight.net/album_pic.php?pic_id=497
http://forum.alphaflight.net/album_pic.php?pic_id=498

You sir are my hero, straight up Batman...no questions asked. Thanks a lot.

[-K-M-]

I'm in a debate at another board, and I'm arguing Aurora's calming powers would work on Hulk while another says it wouldn't. Does anyone know any examples of Hulk being calmed in a similar fashion or Aurora do something like this to a similar character?

[Legerd]

The X-men used a "Bambi-esque" hologram and knock out gas in the Danger Room to calm the Hulk after the Banner half of him was sent off to another dimension by Franklin Rogers at the end of the Onslaught story arc. It didn't work, but that may be because the Banner half of him was gone.

[DelBubs]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AlphaFlight01-24.jpg

With her having so much variety with her powers, it's not like a writer is going to use them anyways. Like really even in Weapon X from what I recall she never did one flashbang, or anything with her light powers. If written to her what her abilities she can do it's possible she could even take the Hulk. [Calming light weaken him, give him a speed blitz charging up his entire body]
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Sidenote: can anyone get me scans of Aurora calming Human tourch? I'm on back order for the issue and it won't arrive for awhile.
Just looking at that picture and the bottom panel. Just got to wondering if? Aurora can fly longer than him, is that because she is fitter than JP (He was an Olympic level skier, while she was a teacher), or part of her Mutant power?

[syvalois]

Just looking at that picture and the bottom panel. Just got to wondering if? Aurora can fly longer than him, is that because she is fitter than JP (He was an Olympic level skier, while she was a teacher), or part of her Mutant power?

No, it's only because she's a woman and that JP is a man.

[Ben]

Just looking at that picture and the bottom panel. Just got to wondering if? Aurora can fly longer than him, is that because she is fitter than JP (He was an Olympic level skier, while she was a teacher), or part of her Mutant power?

No, it's only because she's a woman and that JP is a man.

That's true...most women can go longer than most men...

Ben

[MistressMerr]

Oh, snap! :lol:

[kozzi24]

Actually Northstar was always faster, but Aurora had better endurance [Alpha Flight #1].
Yeah, that was the page I remembered, but not accurately. I did, however, always wondered how the twins determined that, and why J-P knew he was faster but Aurora did not seem to know that.