What are Walt's chances of survivial?

[langkowski_fan]

Hey, I'm new to the group, but a longtime Alpha fan, since 1990...a pretty good sum of my 22 years. Alpha has always been my favorite group of heroes, and, as you can tell, Sasquatch is my favorite member, and, honestly, one of my all-time favorite Marvel super-heroes. I guess because I've always had a fascination with bigfoot/sasquatch, and also because he's so intelligent and funny, and, like me, interested in science. To me, (besides Heather and James of course) Walt is part of the heart and soul of Alpha. I even liked the new series, because Walt got a chance to lead, and prove himself as the only Alpha mainstay, and got to showcase his humor, but old Alpha is defintely better. But, I'm really disturbed by Alpha's "final battle" in New Avengers. I hate the thought of any of the Alphans that I grew up with dying, but I'd hate it most of all if Walt was killed. I just think this whole thing is nonsense. I want Alpha to be brought back, and I hope, even with Bendis' track record, that it doesn't wind up being a massacre. In Walt's case, though, I hope Bendis remembers that he's one of the strongest heroes in the Marvel universe. He's one of Marvel's powerhouses, though he doesn't get the respect he deserves. He's punched out the Thing, and has even gone toe-to-toe with the Hulk, and was chosen by the Champion in that Marvel Two-In-One Annual among the most powerful heroes on Earth. He ain't goin' down easy, let me tell ya! I also love Puck, and I hope that nothing happens to him, James, or Heather. And I especially hope that Marvel doesn't destroy one of my all-time favorite characters, because they'll be alienating a longtime Marvel fan here. I just wanted to ask you guys, do you think they'll actually kill Walt? And what are his chances for survival? I think that even if they do something to some of the other membeers of Alpha in order to change the team and make them into an "Avengers North" or something, they should leave Walt, as a representative of the old Flight...and possibly their leader. What do you guys think?

[Mokole]

Well, I doubt, seriously, that they'd kill Sasquatch. The idea Bendis might kill any of the long-standing characters is being left out there to sell more New Avengers comics to fans, I still think it all might be nonsense. The Collective may steal powers or fight them but to me only Shaman of the Byrnites may fall, since his daughter is a ready replacement.

So Sasquatch will survive this thing, so will Puck and most (if not all) the rest.

Welcome, bud!

[Legerd]

While I am worried for all of them I think Sasquatch has become rather popular as of late, and will survive.

Welcome to Alpha Waves langkowski_fan!

[Barnacle13]

Sas would be the safest of the group in my opinion. He's by far the strongest, plus he has a new action figure, a couple of busts in the past year, and has made numerous appearances over the past year or so. Why kill off a character that you're finally starting to use? Just doesn't make sense to me.

[Powersurge]

The guys a former linebacker as well as, what, a biochemist or whatever ... an intellectual at any rate. You gotta love the guys who break the false mold and go back to the original, where strength and brains come in a package deal.

Walt simply rocks too much to die ... "again".

[RatCat]

I'd agree that he is the safest of the group.


But it all depends on what Mr. Bendis and Joe Q think.

[PWalk]

A theory that keeps popping into my head is that he survives and and actually joins the New Avengers.

The avatar looks good on ya, welcome to the group.

[langkowski_fan]

Thanks for welcoming me guys!! I agree with what Powersurge said: Walt simply rocks to much to die!! I agree, it does seem like Walt has had a surge in popularity as of late, especially with all the busts and his Marvel Legends figure(which freakin' rocks!!), and that, coupled with his strength and everything, probably does make him the safest in the group. I like your theory PWalk...it'd be freakin' cool if he joined the New Avengers!! Maybe then he'd get the respect he deserves, and at least one Alpha member would be remembered. If he joined, New Avengers would definitely get to the top of my reading list!! I remember the dynamic Beast brought to the Avengers when he was a member, he brought alot of intelligence and humor, and I think that Sas could bring that same dynamic to the new team of Avengers.

[Julesville]

A theory that keeps popping into my head is that he survives and and actually joins the New Avengers.

The avatar looks good on ya, welcome to the group.

That woud be awesome! If some of the long stadning members of AF split from Canada and joined the Avengers. It could finaly give the ailing team some modern validation.

It seems that the New Avengers have been sort of a "Good Ole Boy" reunion, in that it was a lot of Marvel's oldest, most badass characters that have also evolved with the times and were seen in all kinds of different books; Captain America, Iron Man, Wolverine, Luke Cage, Spiderman, and some other people who don't apply.

It was like Marvel cleaned out the Avengers of all the nobodies, then restaffed it with the best of the best from everywhere else.

Who in AF could fill that sort of role? Sasquatch... maybe. Shaman... I think so. Puck... I'd like to see that, he definatly fills the role of an old-schooler badass.

[kozzi24]

According to Busiek's Avengers Forever, Sasquatch is destined for Avengers membership...(and Northstar too, tho to a bad end to affiliation with the group.)

[Spyridona]

Well, considering the solicitions<sp> for March's New Avengers, I don't recall seeing anyone on the team in the cover... so the Sassy in the Avengers group wouldn't be that strange. And yes, I'd start buying NA if that were the case. I’d love to see the reaction when someone mentions Walt’s transgender existence. :twisted:

[-K-M-]

Well apparently Sasquatch is in the Civil War poster featured in Wizard #172. I will see if I can scan it tommorow to see if it's true.

[langkowski_fan]

All right! This is all good news. It's starting to seem like there's hope for my favorite Alphan after all!! Yeah, and I remember Sas and Northstar being destined for Avengers membership in Avengers Forever...it'd be awesome to see that become a reality!!

[-K-M-]

All right! This is all good news. It's starting to seem like there's hope for my favorite Alphan after all!! Yeah, and I remember Sas and Northstar being destined for Avengers membership in Avengers Forever...it'd be awesome to see that become a reality!!

Yeah what issues did they appear in Avengers Forever? I never read the entire 12 ark, and did they do anything?

[kozzi24]

They were each part of crowd scenes in #11 and 12, the crowds being groups of Avengers fighting each other. Interestingly enough, Northstar was among the group of Avengers gone bad.

[rplass]

Well apparently Sasquatch is in the Civil War poster featured in Wizard #172.

I put them up in the photo album:

http://forum.alphaflight.net/album_pic.php?pic_id=510

http://forum.alphaflight.net/album_pic.php?pic_id=511

Love,
rplass

[-K-M-]

I've never been so happy to see a wookie:)

Great work

[mos_def]

Though I love Walt if their appearance is in Avengers then no one is safe if one is to think that Thor, Hawkeye have died fairly recently and Quicksilver has lost his powers-all IMO have more appeal then Sas

[HappyCanuck]

Though I love Walt if their appearance is in Avengers then no one is safe if one is to think that Thor, Hawkeye have died fairly recently and Quicksilver has lost his powers-all IMO have more appeal then Sas

Hawkeye was dead for a little over a year (I think because Wanda brought him back for House of M, there's a few tidbits running around saying he's back for another jaunt until he gets killed next time), and there's rumours - some even on Joe Q's end - that a certain God of Thunder is coming back.

[Phil]

Yeah, neither death was ever planned to be permenant.

I think we all need to read the book before we make scathing comments.

[HappyCanuck]

Yeah, neither death was ever planned to be permenant.

I think we all need to read the book before we make scathing comments.


Kinda makes you wonder.... what's the point of killing them off in the first place?!

[JohnnyCanuck]

Yeah, neither death was ever planned to be permenant.

I think we all need to read the book before we make scathing comments.


Yes. That will give us more time to think of more scathing comments.

JC

[Legerd]

The one good thing to keep in mind is that Alpha has, what could arguably be called, the best reset button of any Marvel team. Talisman. So don't worry if anyone gets killed, because Talisman is around to bring them back. :D

[-K-M-]

The one good thing to keep in mind is that Alpha has, what could arguably be called, the best reset button of any Marvel team. Talisman. So don't worry if anyone gets killed, because Talisman is around to bring them back. :D

Haha well put, even Shaman is capable of going back in time to alter things. It's dangerous, but these people are his family

[Canucklehead]

The one good thing to keep in mind is that Alpha has, what could arguably be called, the best reset button of any Marvel team. Talisman. So don't worry if anyone gets killed, because Talisman is around to bring them back. :D

Maybe we can have a House of S(haman) and Tallisman can alter reality to fix... I donno... everything after Byrne left :wink:

[Legerd]

The one good thing to keep in mind is that Alpha has, what could arguably be called, the best reset button of any Marvel team. Talisman. So don't worry if anyone gets killed, because Talisman is around to bring them back. :D

Maybe we can have a House of S(haman) and Tallisman can alter reality to fix... I donno... everything after Byrne left :wink:

Hey, there's an idea to pitch Marvel and it would make more sense than Scarlet Witch altering everything. I didn't think she had that much power. However, Talisman does and has more than enough reason to use it. Such as to bring back her mommy.

[cmdrkoenig67]

Well apparently Sasquatch is in the Civil War poster featured in Wizard #172.

I put them up in the photo album:

http://forum.alphaflight.net/album_pic.php?pic_id=511

Love,
rplass

That looks nothing like Walt....it looks more like Werewolf By Night.

EDITED to add: I mean...here's why I think it...he has giant claws and sharp teeth(He's brown, not orange). He's drawn completely different that Walt has ever been drawn. He's with the Marvel Knights characters(Punicher, Black Widow, Cloak and Dagger, Moon Knight, etc...) and most of the other heroes are grouped together(New Avengers, New Warriors, X-Men, etc....)...Why would Walt be way down in the corner...away from Alpha Flight(More Alpha members may be off to the side in the picture, but grouped with AF.

Dana

[-K-M-]

That looks nothing like Walt....it looks more like Werewolf By Night.


Yep that I look back your right it is spot on with Werewolf By Night.

[-K-M-]

Here is the whole poster and discussion who the Beast in the corner is:
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=99552&page=1&pp=15

[cmdrkoenig67]

That looks nothing like Walt....it looks more like Werewolf By Night.


Yep that I look back your right it is spot on with Werewolf By Night.

Thanks, KM...I'm waffling as to whether it's the Beast(from X-Men) or the Werewolf....It doesn't have the Beast's cat ears and we can't see an X-costume on him anywhere...so I'm leaning toward WW.

Dana

[-K-M-]

Thanks, KM...I'm waffling as to whether it's the Beast(from X-Men) or the Werewolf....It doesn't have the Beast's cat ears and we can't see an X-costume on him anywhere...so I'm leaning toward WW.

Dana

I doubt it's Beast, he usually wears clothes. I'm going with WW.

[rplass]

Yeah what issues did they appear in Avengers Forever? I never read the entire 12 ark, and did they do anything?

Well, now's your chance... next week, the entire arc is going to be reprinted in an oversized HC. It should be a very nice book but honestly, the $34.99 pricing is not cost efficient... since the 12 issues can readily be found in dollar or fifty cent bins quite easily.

In this week's "Marvel Spotlight: Summer Events", there's a few pages advertising the Avengers Forever, and now Ultimate Comics Avengers artist Carols Pacheco. They reprinted the full page poster with Sasquatch from Avengers Forever #11. Still no explanation how Sasquatch nor Northstar get into the Avengers timeline.

Love,
rplass

[rplass]

I doubt it's Beast, he usually wears clothes. I'm going with WW.

I found this post by McNiven which confirms it's supposed to be Sasquatch, admittedly drawn like a Wookie:

http://www.606studios.com/bendisboard/showthread.php?73729-A-question-for-Mr.-McNiven-about-the-Civil-War-Files-cover.&


That character in question was actually supposed to be the sasquatch, but ended up looking like a f*ckin' wookie. Story goes like this: Marvel needed the promo piece done asap. I had a day before I was off to a con in Texas so I sat down and started pencilling 6 am. Fast forward to 5am and I have an hour before I need to be on the way to the airport for my flight and I have one more character to draw. Guess who it is? I was going to go back and fix it up but never found the time. I thought it was only going to be used inside the lettering on the poster and not as a complete image . Sorry to make ya lose the bet.

(The bet was that the guy was Werewolf by Night)

So that settles that argument. It's a badly drawn Sasquatch. The image in question is

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[-K-M-]

Oh good detective work, I was one of the people that thought it was Werewolf by Night.

Nice job.