Alpha Flight: The Movie

[Julesville]

Comic movies are pretty popular these days, they're even doing a Luke Cage movie with Tyrese.

If they (for some reason) did a Alpha Flight movie. WHo would they get to star in it, if they could get anyone? Who would the main bad-guy be and played by who? And, what would they change, continuity-wise, to make it appealing to a wide, AF-ignorant audience?


James Hudson Macdonald - Vigo Mortensen

Heather Hudson - Uma Thurman (looks good in glasses)

Micheal Twoyoungman - Lou Diamond Philips (he's native american ya know)

Eugene Judd - Weeman

Walter Langowski - Tyler Mane

Snowbird - Kate Moss (the model!!!)

Jean-Paul Beubier - Orlando Bloom

Jean-Marie Beubier - That Lana Lane chick from Smallvile, but all ****ted up

[MistressMerr]

You know who I always thought would make an awesome Northstar? Sean Maher of Firefly and Serenity:

http://www.fireflywiki.org/img/simon23.jpg
http://i.teenblvd.com/dn/107744/SeanMaher_Firelfly.jpg

[syvalois]

I know, you have no clue who he is but I always thought Charles Lafortune would look good in Northstar (Jean-Paul Beaubier), but he's not known to be such a good actor.

http://pages.infinit.net/pheroux/Lafortune2.jpg

And Julie Deslauries for Aurora(Jeanne-Marie Beaubier) and she's a good actress
http://www.telesouvenirs.com/ts/photos/juliedeslauriers.jpg

or Lucie laurier who is again a good actress
http://www.webrealite.com/album_pic.php?pic_id=876

For Heather, I don't see Uma Thurman, but in a way she could do the part, but too beatiful for the part somehow But Meggan Follows get my vote

http://www.lacoctelera.com/myfiles/quefuede/Megan%20Follows02.jpg


I would say Kristin Kreuk (Lana Lang) is better for Snowbird than Kate Moss, but it's my very personnal view on Snowbird. :wink:
http://www.tauntaun.freeserve.co.uk/misc/lana_lang.jpg

I don't know who is Tyler Mane and I'm not sure about the rest, but it's a beginning

[DelBubs]

Snowbird - Kate Moss (the model!!!)

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_1_1.gif Oh the irony if they offered it to her.

[HappyCanuck]

Tyler Mane played Sabretooth in the first X-Men film.

[MistressMerr]

Snowbird - Kate Moss (the model!!!)

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_1_1.gif Oh the irony if they offered it to her.

HA! How did I miss that? :lol:

[shaman]

I'll take a shot at it

Michael Twoyoungman - Nathaniel Arcand
http://www.nathanielarcand.com/index.htm

Jeanne-Marie Beaubier - Emily Perkins
http://www.emilyperkins.com/

Jean-Paul Beaubier - ???? I kind of want to say Kris Lemche
http://www.zapster.it/pic/ppl/KrisLemche.jpg

Narya - Natasha Henstridge
http://www.lovingblog.blogger.com.br/henstridgephoto00049.jpg

Madison Jeffries - Elias Koteas
http://newyorkmetro.com/nymetro/arts/tv/reviews/tvreview040112_175.jpg

Smartalec - Dean Haglund
http://northernstars.ca/actorsghi/Media/haglund_dean_250.jpg

thats all I can think of for now, no wait I was kind of thinking of
Mac - Ryan Reynolds
http://interaktiv.vg.no/filmextra/bilder/personer/ryan_reynolds.jpg

If I can think of any more I'll post it
please don't kill me for my choices, actually all of the actors I chose are Native to the Soils of Canada

[sengsterooney]

Megan Follows... didn't she play 'Anne of Green Gables' when she was younger? How she has changed!

This is a nice, revival thread. I don't know of any Quebecois (sp?) actors so actors nominated to play JMB and JPB will not be French Canadian. Some choices may be a bit controversial. :-)

Mac: Clive Owen
Heather: Laura Linney
Marrina: Rosario Dawson
Puck: Peter Dinklage (from TV's Threshold or the Station Agent - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0227759/)
Shaman: Viggo Mortensen? (I read somewhere he is Cheyenne or Native American Indian)
Snowbird: Alyson Hannigan (well, a bit of a controversial casting, but can you see her as Snowbird?)
Northstar: either Elijah Wood (Frodo) or Jamie Bell (Jimmy in King Kong)
Aurora: Scarlett Johanssen (sp?) or Keira Knightley (sp?)
Box (Madison Jeffries): either Sean Astin or Michael Chiklis (from The Shield)
Sasquatch: Either Patrick Warburton or Ewan McGregor

[Spyridona]

Here's my picks. :)

Guardian = Christian Bale, he has that classical 'leading man' look
that Mac sort of has, and he plays the determined 'strong' character very
well.

Heather = Isla Fisher - Very pretty and one of the few actresses
who are considered attractive and not ghastly thin. I honestly don't know
if she has a flair for serious acting but I can see her all mothery.

Sasquatch = Scott Speedman - I really honestly think he'd be
perfect for Walter. Just the right age, might need a bit more bulk, but he's
got this Walterish charm to him.

Aurora = Mischa Barton, has the sultry look down and yet can do
the innocent girl look if she wanted to.

I agree with sengsterooney with Rosario Dawson as Marrina and
Peter Dinklage as Puck, Dinklage is a bit 'young' but he does look like a
Puck (and not because he's a dwarf). I also agree with shaman
with the pick Kris Lemche for Northstar.

Uhm... that's all I got so far, I do want Cree or Inuit actors for Shaman
and Snowbird, respectively, but I'm not familiar with a lot of actors with
such a hertiage...

[sengsterooney]

It might also be interesting to see what kind of a 'slant' one would take with the AF Movie (you gotta admit, most of the comics-based movies have a different 'take' to the characters/settings/situations in the comic).

For the AF movie, you could do something similar to "True Lies" - with Mac heading a clandestine super-hero agency (Alpha Flight), with Heather not being aware of this and thinking that her husband works as a top scientist for a government science department. Heather could be the way in which viewers are introduced to Alpha Flight and its members (much the same way Rogue/Wolvie were used in the X-Men movie).

Of course, the first movie would end with Mac's "death" and Heather replacing/assuming the reins of leader of AF, ready to lead the team in the sequel. :-)

[shaman]

Scott Speedman look like he would be pretty good as Walt Spyridona thought when when he's Sas I would like to see an amalgamation of a sort of prostetic suit and CGI like they did with the thing in FF. Granted they would probably have to shoot him in front of a green screen so he would look the right size, I also like sengsterooney's choice for Puck, Peter Dinklage. I did a google search on him and the first image of him with his arms out in the kind of tada pose I said "Holy Sh!t, It is Puck!" even if he is 4' 6 "

here is the pic
http://emmanuellerichard.com/articles/2004/photos_articles2004/Dinklage2.jpg I smell a new fan art piece coming

[shaman]

one thing I think is kind of funny though, everyone that has picked for heather has pick a redhead when really the woman could have any natural hair colour and have it dyed to match. with that said I still haven't found someone for heather yet :roll: :lol:


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Heather - Sarah Polley
http://adorocinema.cidadeinternet.com.br/personalidades/atores/sarah-polley/sarah-polley01.jpg

[shaman]

Spyridona
you were saying that you wanted a Cree or Inuit Actor to play Shaman and Snowbird, respectively. I found a mini series that was done a while back called Dreamkeeper and they have a very long list of Native actors, I don't know how many are actually of the right decent that you are looking for but I do know there a few, the one I picked was on there and it said that he is cree and from Edmonton

link http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0309150/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnx0dD0xfGZiPXV8cG49MHxrdz0xfHE9RHJlYW 1rZWVwZXJ8ZnQ9MXxteD0yMHxsbT01MDB8Y289MXxodG1sPTF8 bm09MQ__;fc=1;ft=21;fm=1

[syvalois]

Megan Follows... didn't she play 'Anne of Green Gables' when she was younger? How she has changed!

Yes she is the same person.


This is a nice, revival thread. I don't know of any Quebecois (sp?) actors so actors nominated to play JMB and JPB will not be French Canadian. Some choices may be a bit controversial. :-)


Maybe you know some quebecer actors Well there is William Shatner form Star Trek, Genevieve Bujold from Ann of a thousand dayshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genevi%C3%A8ve_Bujold
and some mores like that girl from the African episod on ER.

For your choice, yes I like Clive Owen as a choice for Mac. I don't know I want actors that look a little bit older for Mac and Heather more in their 40's or look in their 40's. But for most of your choice Seng, I just don't know who they are like who is Rosario Dawson?

As for your "True Lies" idea, it's good but it would change dramatically the relationship Mac and Heather always had. I like the fact that Heather knew as much as Mac. They really are a team and that is something I would like to keep in a movie. But changing Snowbird look from a caucasian to a inuit is something I would like very much.

Shaman, I think Nathaniel Arcand look very good but a little bit young for Shaman. And Sarah Polley is way to young to play Heather.

Spyridona, Except for Christian Bale,I have no clue who those actors are.

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[Powersurge]

I don't know I want actors that look a little bit older for Mac and Heather more in their 40's or look in their 40's.

Well, don't forget that Heather was only a teen when she and Mac first hooked up, so he has at least a few years on her.

Speaking of "True Lies", I always thought that Jamie Lee Curtis (in her younger days, not now) would have made a good Heather ... at any stage in Heather's comicbook existence. Early skinny, bookish Heather is a dead of for an early skinny, bookish Jamie Lee Curtis ... as she appears in Halloween for instance, while the later filled out and muscled tones Heather is an easy later, filled out and muscle-toned borderline sex symbol Jamie Lee ... as she appears in True Lies.

There are plenty of good Native Indian actors/actresses out there that we wouldn't have to resort to Lou Diamond. And as for Snowbird, we just have to find one of the many talented Native Indian actresses that abound out there and give her a blonde dye job. That Indian girl in that "old" t.v. show Renegade -- about a bounty hunter, starring Lorenzo Lama -- would probably have made a good Snowbird.

Unfortuantely, my knoweldgfe of the names of actors and actresses is limited, so I can't paly this game all that well. An actor who played Mac would have to be a fairly standard, 1950's looking guy of average appearance, IMO.

[shaman]

I think the reason I picked younger actors is because Julesville said "to make it appealing to a wide, AF-ignorant audience" and since Avi Arad who would no doubtably be tied into the project, he'd want to make money. So I give him some of the young ones (not BBC program) to make Hollywood happy. As for a theme I would go more along the lines of Mission Impossible, but with Superheros, kind of like what Byrne said in his early interview

[Le Messor]

I give him some of the young ones (not BBC program)

Rick Mayall as Northstar! Neil as Shaman!

*shudder* :wink:
I've always, and still, gone with Ed Harris as Mac. Viggo Mortensen works for me, though.
Alyson Hannigan is too small to play Snowbird (one of the reasons I didn't like Halle Berry's Storm, though I like both Halle Berry and Storm). You need somebody big and commanding; if we can accept a non-Inuit, Jerry Ryan. 7 of 9. Who better?

Alyson might do Persuasion well, though. Or, if I wanted to typecast her, Witchfire.

Summer Glau and Sean Maher as Aurora and Northstar.

Vern Troyer as Puck. (Kidding!)

- Le Messor
"That guy killed me, Mal. He killed me with a sword. How weird is that?"
- Mr. Universe

[darc_light]

Wouldn't Jamie Bell be a bit young to play Northstar, I don't think he's even 20...I have no idea who could play these characters, I really don't like adaptions... here are a few ideas:

Gillian Anderson as Heather, Keanu Reeves (Or maybe Orlando Bloom) as Northstar...heck, I don't even know of that many actors...just as long as they don't cast Andy Sirkies as Wildchild 8-[

The one actor I thought of to play Kyle is already playing Iceman in the X-Men movies; Shawn Ashmore. I saw him on an episode of The Outer Limits called "Lion's Den", where he played a high-school wrestler mutated into a bestial animal boy using lion-based steroids...very Wildchild -like.

[shaman]

I remember when wizard did a casting for alpha flight vol 2
the cast was
Wizard #82 - June 1998 - Alpha Flight

Guardian - Ben Affleck
Puck - Danny Woodburn
Sasquatch - The Wampa ( :p )
Vindicator - Gillian Anderson
Murmur - Yasmeen Ghauri
Radius - Mark Wahlberg
Flex - Edward Norton
Sunfire - Dustin Nguyen
General Clarke - Pete Postlethwaite
Scorpio - Dylan McDermott
Diamond Lil - Mariska Hargitay
Northstar - Keanu Reeves
Mesmero - Kelsey Grammer
The Master of the World - Dennis Miller

[MistressMerr]

Summer Glau and Sean Maher as Aurora and Northstar.

Seriously, the Tams are clearly descendents of the Beaubiers or something.

[sengsterooney]

LOL - thanks for the pointer to the Peter Dinklage photo. It is Puck to a tee - right down to the goatee and expression. If anyone on this thread remembers back to the AWaves mailing list days, when a similar proposition was raised, people were suggesting Bob Hoskins as Puck (!).

As for the Snowbird casting - I never formed the impression that Narya was Inuit or Native American. She has blonde hair and weird eyes -- have you seen Alyson Hannigan in her evil witch form in Buffy? Her eyes are weird, and she has a certain other-worldliness about her (even before her Willow became evil and witchy).

I guess it's interesting if we tried casting against type, as they did with Elijah Wood in Sin City (where he was evil ninja kungfu cannibal guy), hence my pick of Alyson Hannigan for Snowbird.

Sylvie - Rosario Dawson plays Gail (super ninja leather chick hooker) in the Sin City movie.

As for villains, I'd pick someone like Liam Neeson (sp?) or Hugh Jackman for the Master, Chris Penn or Jeremy Ratchford (from TV's Cold Case) as Deadly Ernest, Keanu Reeves as Gilded Lily (seriously!), Audrey Tatou as the Dreamqueen and Peter Cushing (yes, I know Peter Cushing has passed on) or Heath Ledger as Llan the sorceror.

[shaman]

I could see Cillian Murphy as Llan the sorceror.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0614165/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnx0dD0xfGZiPXV8cG49MHxrdz0xfHE9Q2lsbG lhbiBNdXJwaHl8ZnQ9MXxteD0yMHxsbT01MDB8Y289MXxodG1s PTF8bm09MQ__;fc=1;ft=20
also Eric Johnson as Wildchild
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0425053/

[darc_light]

I checked out the link for Eric Johnson, he's got the right cheekbones... :oops: A little make-up, a hair dye and some fangs and claws, and he's good to go... 8)

[shaman]

here as promised, Peter Dinklage as puck

http://forum.alphaflight.net/album_pic.php?pic_id=565

[darc_light]

Any ideas on who could play Wyre? For some reason I keep thinking of The Rock (From The Scorpion King), but he's not hairy enough...Nice pic of Puck by the way. :wink:

[shaman]

Alyson Hannigan is too small to play Snowbird (one of the reasons I didn't like Halle Berry's Storm, though I like both Halle Berry and Storm). You need somebody big and commanding; if we can accept a non-Inuit, Jerry Ryan. 7 of 9. Who better?


I always wondered how Iman would done if she was cast as Storm in the X movies

[Le Messor]

Alyson Hannigan is too small to play Snowbird (one of the reasons I didn't like Halle Berry's Storm, though I like both Halle Berry and Storm).
I always wondered how Iman would done if she was cast as Storm in the X movies

I've always thought Vanessa Williams. Well, after I got over Tina Turner (I was young and foolish) :P and Grace Jones.

Snowbird was shown in the comics as non-Inuit, but to most of us here, that makes absolutely no sense. We just want to see her true to her origins.

Ooh, I'm voting for Gillian Anderson as Heather, too! I think it was Seng who once did a great photo-manip of that.
And, I remember the Bob Hoskins as Puck thing. I just chose not to speak of it. 8)

Peter Cushing's dead?! D'oh!

- Le Messor
"Don’t steal. The government hates competition."

[PWalk]

I've said it before but I still think Lauren Holly in glasses would make a great Heather.

Vol. 1, #1 is a story that is perfect to be made into a screenplay. If put in the right hands it could be a summer blockbuster. Think about it. Great character introductions, giant monster threat (think Tundra in CGI, hell yeah!), huge battle, then and ending scene begging for a sequel. Does anyone know Peter Jackson to submit the screenplay to?

[Spyridona]

syvalois
Scott Speedman was in Felicity, 24th Day, Underworld and Underworld 2. He’s played a lyrcopath before. Check out his grin, it just reminds me of Bryne’s Walter to a T.

Isla Fisher is the insane sister in Wedding Crashers. She’s quite funny but I get a feeling she could pull off something semi-serious.

Mischa Barton is in the OC. It’s an insipid pick, because I honestly don’t know who’d play a good Aurora. Just who’d look good. Heck, we should get two unknowns for her and JP, folks who are really French Canadian.

[HappyCanuck]

Vol. 1, #1 is a story that is perfect to be made into a screenplay. If put in the right hands it could be a summer blockbuster. Think about it.

I have been and I have to agree, and, to further illucidate the thought, and given Marvel pictures' trend of making everything a trilogy, you could have the Master storyline in AF 2-4 as the sequels (there was enough info in those three issues that could be compressed into two 2-hour long movies...)

[PWalk]

given Marvel pictures' trend of making everything a trilogy, you could have the Master storyline in AF 2-4 as the sequels (there was enough info in those three issues that could be compressed into two 2-hour long movies...)

Exactly what I thought. If they wanted to that story would be great on the big screen. A CGI Sasquatch would sell alot of merchandise too I'd bet.

[syvalois]

Scott Speedman was in Felicity, 24th Day, Underworld and Underworld 2. He’s played a lyrcopath before. Check out his grin, it just reminds me of Bryne’s Walter to a T.

thanks, I only saw Underworld in the bunch, he played the lead male?


Isla Fisher is the insane sister in Wedding Crashers. She’s quite funny but I get a feeling she could pull off something semi-serious.

Mischa Barton is in the OC.[/quote]

Did not see yet wedding crashers and I have no clue what is OC. but thanks

[Spyridona]

thanks, I only saw Underworld in the bunch, he played the lead male? .

Yes!


Did not see yet wedding crashers and I have no clue what is OC. but thanks

The OC is a horrible teen soap, I suggested Mischa Barton because someone used her as Jeannie Marie's avatar in an online game I'm in.

[darc_light]

Spyridona, you're from North Florida too! :o I live in Northwest Florida....That's something, meeting somebody else from Florida on what I assume is a Canadian site. 8)

So Wizard and I had the same idea, Keanu as Northstar...but could he pull it off :?: And the Wampa has horns, so that won't work as Walt...and Kelsey Grammar is playing Beast...

On an unrelated note, there was an episode of the X-Men cartoon with Alpha Flight, I think it was called "Repo-Man", with Alpha trying to force Logan to come back. It had Aurora, Northstar, Puck, Snowbird, Sasquatch, Shaman, Heather and Mac. They realized at the end that someone, I guess the government, was using them for evil purposes, and helped Logan escape. They also briefly appeared on another episode, I can't recall which one, protecting people from some sort of weather disaster, maybe it was the Arkon story arc.
Of course, the ones I remember best are "Out of the Past" with Lady Deathstrike and the Reavers, and "Love in Vain" with the Brood, (For some reason they called them "The Family", Is "Brood" a scary word now...?)

[shaman]

I was thinking, I think someone mentioned Clive Owen as Mac but what would you guys think of him as Wyre? Also, I was watching Hellboy the other day while getting over a cold and I thought that the guy that plays rasputin would make a good Master

[-K-M-]

They also briefly appeared on another episode, I can't recall which one, protecting people from some sort of weather disaster, maybe it was the Arkon story arc.


"Child of Light" was the other apperance, it was part of the Pheonix Saga.

http://members.fortunecity.com/drg01/xquick3.html

[JohnnyCanuck]

I don't know who I'd pick for most of the parts but based on looks I'd have to say Kate beckinsale would be an awesome Aurora. Just was watching the promos for Underworld and also saw her on Letterman even better looking there. She could do the dual role needed.
My Opinion.
Now I have to figure the rest of them out and some I have to agree with. But not Wizard's picks.


JC

{edit} She'd also be a great Courtney robot.

[darc_light]

Thanks King Mungi 8) , The Dark Pheonix Saga. That had The Hellfire Club, (called the "Circle Club" for obvious reasons) then it probably had Donald Pierce in there somewhere. I remember in one episode he was after Dazzler? and ripped the engine out of a car, straight through the hood...

Yeah, Clive Owen looks like he'd make a good Wyre. :)

[shaman]

Another thing I was thinking about was that everyone (well.. not everyone) said that they want to see Sas done with CGI, I think he should be done more along the lines of Mr. Hyde in the league of extaordinary gentlemen. A blend of CGI and and man in a suit with arm extentions shot on a green screen, I just don't want to see people complain about Sas like they did about the Hulk, all I heard from the 3D animation department in college was that they couldn't stand how big he was and how he moved like an elderly asian man in a mo-cap suit (I know).

[Phil]

Thanks King Mungi 8) , The Dark Pheonix Saga. That had The Hellfire Club, (called the "Circle Club" for obvious reasons) then it probably had Donald Pierce in there somewhere. I remember in one episode he was after Dazzler? and ripped the engine out of a car, straight through the hood...

No, it wasn't the Dark Phoenix episodes, just the Phoenix Saga ones.

AOA Wildchild also briefly appeared in One Man's Worth: Part 1.

[Le Messor]

Both Repo Man and Child of Light are available on DVD; the first on one of the Wolverine-themed releases, the second on The Just A Phoenix Saga.

Unavailable on DVD is Slave Island, with the Twinz' first appearance.
I didn't know about AoA Wildchild, but I don't (and this is nothing more than personal prejudice) think of him as Alphan.

I didn't think they pulled off Hyde all that successfully; sorry, but he looked CG right through, and I was shocked to learn he wasn't. But it could still be a good way to do Sas--speaking of Hellboy, how 'bout Ron Perlman? As Sas, if not Walt. (Look at Beauty and the Beast.)

- Le Messor
The Hulk? Loved him in Shrek.

[darc_light]

"One Man's Worth", was that the one with Fitzroy, Bishop and Shard? I don't recall seeing much of it, I can't believe I missed Kyle! :cry: ](*,) #-o

Speaking of "Slave Island" I don't remember the twins, but I do remember Warpath, I don't see why they lumped him with the "evil" mutants fighting the X-Men in the opening credits... :?

I guess you can find the videos on Ebay? I have Out of The Past 1&2 on VHS, but that's all. I wish there was a good site for the X-Men cartoons with pictures, they're used to be. There's a site for the Anime Rurouni Kenshin, (I do like Anime :shock: ), that has every episode, with stills frame by frame...

[DelBubs]

Speaking of "Slave Island" I don't remember the twins, but I do remember Warpath, I don't see why they lumped him with the "evil" mutants fighting the X-Men in the opening credits... :?

I believe he was originally a X-Men enemy. He was part of 'The Hellions'. I think and also attacked The X-Men individually, trying to gain revenge for the death of his brother.

[Le Messor]

Speaking of "Slave Island" I don't remember the twins... I guess you can find the videos on Ebay?

The twins were mostly background characters, but they did speak, and used their light power.

I've got it on video, but I don't know about E-bay. Presumably. Apparently, you can find anything there.
Sorry, I can't get you a copy. See, if you lived in England, or Australia, I could help you. So, it's your fault. :twisted:
(Video transfers to the USA, ignore my current location, are prohibitively expensive.)

- Le Messor
"William Shatner's old toupee,
A Kleenex used by Dr Dre,
I bought on ebay."
- 'Weird Al' Yankovic, E-Bay (mangled)

[darc_light]

I don't doubt it. Maybe next month I'll check Ebay, if I don't get distracted. :-s


On an unrelated note, That reminds me of a video I own, recorded in Canada, (An old pilot for a show called "Lucan"). On the back it says "Not for sale or rent in South Africa or Australia" South Africa I can understand, maybe an embargo or something, but Australia? :-k

[shaman]

I was going to make a suggestion for Q'Orianka Kilcher(Pocahontas, The New World) as Talisman but I guess she's actually german and not to mention only 15. I thought she may have been a little older, I haven't seen the film

[Shaman Of The Whills]

I'm totally on board with the Peter Dinklage as Puck idea, (despite being a huge fan of Warwick Davis, I just don't see him as Puck) especially after seeing the image of him in the suit. Brilliant.
Also, as long as Sean and Summer could do French accents, they'd be perfect, especially given their already developed sibling chemistry.
As an alternative Native American actor to Lou Diamond Phillips, if we were looking at a generally young Shaman, I'd go with Jay Tavare, especially because his hair has the potential to be shaped just like Shaman's.
I think that Tricia Helfer of Battlestar Galactica has some good power to go along with her looks and could possibly pull off a nice Snowbird.
For Marrina, I'm torn between evangeline Lilly and Carrie-Anne Moss, because despite how radically different that pairing is, I could actually see either of them pulling it off (Lilly only because of the way she looks when she is wet...) But I also couldn't see her with the hair cut down to Marrina's length, so ultimately I'd settle on Moss.
The others I'll have to think on a little longer... so my cast list right now:

Puck: Peter Dinklage
Shaman: Jay Tavare
Northstar: Sean Maher
Aurora: Summer Glau
Snowbird: Tricia Helfer
Marrina: Kate Moss

[shaman]

Jay Tavare as Shaman doesn't look bad. Does anyone have any suggestions for Nemesis? I'm drawing a blank myself.

[Shaman Of The Whills]

Yeah, I'm similarly drawing a blank son someone for Nemesis... but then again, that might also be a good role for an unknown to play, kind of pick up the part from that... but no ideas come to mind right now.
Also, I realize that she is probably a little too old for the part at this time, but I've always had this secret desire to see Gates McFadden play the role of Heather... I think in her prime she really might have been able to pull it off.

[Le Messor]

Considering CGI these days--consider John Rhys Davies as Gimli--I think Vin Diesel could be a great Puck.

Audrey Tatou as Marrina.
Milla Jovovich as Nemesis. Or, any of our Snowbird picks could be Nemesis. She doesn't really need to -look- like anything, just be built and talk tough. Come to think of it, Sigourney Weaver could do it. >:)
But I don't really see her in the first movie.

- Le Messor
"I've seen the way women look at you, even though they know you're a priest - especially when they know, actually."
- Anna Riley, Keeping The Faith

[darc_light]

I can't get this idea out of my head that Jayne Heitmeyer (Renee Palmer from Earth: Final Conflict) would make a perfect Valerie Cooper...Though she'd be more likely to appear in a movie about the X-Men or X-Factor than Alpha Flight...I guess :-s

[Le Messor]

I can't get this idea out of my head that Jayne Heitmeyer (Renee Palmer from Earth: Final Conflict) would make a perfect Valerie Cooper...

I think she has. Look over Senator Kelly's (Mystique's) shoulder at the end of X-Men 1, when s/he stumbles and her eyes glow, revealing who she is; there's a woman with blonde hair tied back and glasses; I've -always- believed that was Val Cooper. Yes, always. I was born believing that...

- Le Messor
"Don’t vote--it only encourages them!"

[darc_light]

I have yet to see that movie, but the description fits Val.
P.S. That "Vote" line cracked me up! :lol:

[darc_light]

Shawn Ashmore as Kyle (I know, he's Iceman, but where just dreamin' anyways)
Ron Perlman- Wyre
Jayne Heitmeyer - Valerie Cooper
Gillian Anderson-Heather Hudson

For Flex I've got a tie:
Daniel Clark (Yulyn from Earth:Final Conflict, he was on that "Degrassi" show too)or Balthazar Getty(I can't think of anything other than Habitat, Lord of the Flies :-# and Judge Dredd, I know he's been in more than that) :? I can't decide!

Vincent Price - Eshu (I know he's gone, but, See above) I mean, have you ever seen "The Abominable Doctor Phibes?"
Keanu Reeves-Namor...oops, wrong series...
Peter Dinklage-Puck
Gulaine St. Onge-Nemesis {nemesis} (Juda from Earth: Final Conflict)

Awww crud, I don't know anything about any other actors.

What was that, "Degrassi" something, I've never seen it...

[shaman]

Degrassi is a long long long running teen drama about highschool life and the stress of being a teenager. Did Valerie Cooper make an appearance in AF? I don't remember her in it, I thought she was mainly involved in U.S. politcs(oh well). I wonder what Dolf Lungren would be like as Wyre, and I had a litle bit of a stange thought and I have to say it.......Molly Ringwald (sp?) as Heather.

[DelBubs]

As an aside, in regards to Degrassi High, this might interest some of you http://www.forum.alphaflight.net/viewtopic.php?t=1118

[darc_light]

I've got it 8)
Daniel Clark-Flex http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0163818/
Balthazar Getty-Radius http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001267/
Marco Hofschnieder-Northstar http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0389424/
Nathan Lee Chasing His Horse-Shaman (Smiles A Lot from "Dances With Wolves") Not to be confused with any of the "Care-Bears"
:lol: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0496724/
(No pics of Nathan, maybe under Dances with Wolves)

I've been wracking my brain, such as it is :wink: , and I can't picture anyone as Aurora. You guys have made plenty of good suggestions (On everybody, really), so I'll leave her alone...

Thanks for the info, I remember when I was in elementary school there was a show called Degrassi High, but that was before Daniel Clark was even born (Man I'm gettin' old)...Was it more than one series like Star Trek + spin-offs, or just one long-running series, like Doctor Who?

I don't know if Val ever appeared in Alpha, but she played a major part in Wild Child's creation, as shown in X-Factor #142

Dolf Lundgren, he's big enough, but can he pull off the "feral" type?

[darc_light]

Shaman-How about George Leach from the movie "Into The West." Check out his 8) pic at:

http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0409572/Ss/0409572/Loved%2520w%2520eagle%2520copy.jpg?path=gallery&path_key=0409572

I think I got the link this time...

[HappyCanuck]

The 'Degrassi' series started in the late 70's as the 'Kids of Degrassi Street', which span off into 'Degrassi Junior High' in the early 80's, then 'Degrassi High' in the late 80's. CBC and CTV (the two stations that ran the series) had a few 'Degrassi' minis in the mid 90's, then 'Degrassi: the Next Generation' started up again - using many of the old cast from the original series' - about three years ago.

[darc_light]

Thanks. 8)

[PWalk]

Mos Def as Windshear. Hey if he can pull off playing an alien from a planet somewhere in the vicinity of Betelgeuce he could pull off this role.

[Le Messor]

I've just been re-reading Alpha, and in his one appearance 'sans mask' (the illusion, #15) I thought The Master looked exactly like Donald Sutherland.

He can't pull off playing an alien from somewhere in the vicinity of Betelguese. (Sorry, I didn't buy any of the actors in the movie version. Not even Allan Rickman. Who'd also make a good Master.)

- Le Messor
"Don’t wrestle a pig in a mud hole. You both get all dirty, and the pig enjoys it."

[Snowsquatch]

Hi. My first posting here. I think it will be memorable. ;)

The only woman I can see as Heather is Estella Warren. She's Canadian, beautiful, and she's got an athlete's build.

Her acting in Planet of the Apes was lousy, but she was fantastic on a recent episode of Law & Order. She played the heartless daughter in a mother-daughter con-artist team. Her mother was played by Linda Carter! If that's not an omen, I don't know what is! I haven't seen her in any other movies, though.

http://www.millioncelebs.com/fcm/estella-warren/estella-warren-nude-16.jpg[/img]

I could also see Robert Beltram (Chekotay from Voyager) as Shaman.
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/9299/chakotay.jpg
Wanda would need to be an exotic looking woman, with mixed ethnic features to reflect Narya's white/Inuit mix. Kristin Kruek is a good example, but I think she's too short. Narya needs to be close to 6 ft. Uma Thurman?

In terms of time-frame, I think an Alpha Flight movie would only work if they kept the cast small. Think small (like Fantastic Four). I would prefer the main characters as: Heather/Vindicator, Shaman, and the white Sasquatch. There is only one worthy villian: Nemesis.

The events would take place:
1) After Mac died (the first time).
2) After Walter returned in Snowbird's body, and he is still very uncomfortable in Narya's body. Because of his discomfort, he spends most of his time as Sasquatch.

The main story could be: the Canadian gov't reforming AF with just these three members, to deal with a specific task, with the intent of growing larger later if they are successful.

A key theme would be: dealing with death. Obviously, Heather is struggling with leading a new AF after Mac's death. Shaman is troubled, having bound Walter in Narya's body. He speaks with Narya still, and we see her advising him on camera. (Thus, a dual-role for the actress playing Sasquatch.) Of course, Walter/Wanda has had the closest brush with death, but isn't sure he's ready to live life as a completely different person. Nemesis is the agent of death, and brings out the worst fears in our heroes.

Another key theme: Alpha Flight are not vigilantes, like Batman or Spiderman or Punisher. They represent law & order, not personal vendettas. The members struggle to keep personal goals secondary to their offical purpose. They arrest, not kill. They seek truth, not cover-up secrets. Nemesis represents vigilantism, personal vendetta, and supressing the truth. (Whether Dept H has the same intentions as AF, well...)

A final theme: intelligence. Unlike other muscle-bound (but dim-witted) heroes, the main members of Alpha Flight embody genuis. Mac, Micheal, and Walter are all scientists first, heroes second. Unlike other heroes, they actually are smarter than their opponents. Nemesis is a villain of pure rage, while Alpha Flight are pure genius.

Some sexual tension between Heather and Micheal would work, too (though not very "canon").

And Walther/Wanda is clearly having trouble dealing with life, and having a humorous identity crisis, too! (I can think of many funny gags with a man trapped in a woman's body.)

I can't see a big role for Puck or the twins. Maybe in future movies.

[Legerd]

Not bad Snowsquatch (like your picks for the actors), but I think you would have to have Mac and the twins in the first movie. I see Mac dying at the end so Heather can take over in the sequel. IMO the first villain should be the Master and AF should include Guardian (Mac), Sas, Shaman, and the twins with Heather as Mac's 2nd-in-command and Marrina as a Beta.
At the end Mac is (supposedly) killed by the Master, Marrina is accepted onto the team and Heather is offered the job as team leader.

Welcome to the boards Snowsquatch! :D

[shaman]

I think that the Master would infact be a great first villian, but I was watching a trailer for Mission Impossible 3 and even though I don't care for tom cruise flicks, there was one line in the trailer that Phillip Seamour(?) Hoffman said to Tom, and that was. I will kill you in front of you're lovely wife and it made me think of Omega Flight. I think that would be a great group to go up against

[shaman]

OH YES! Welcome Sasquatch! Mind the mold in the cupboard, it's just from some of the more senior members

[Snowsquatch]

Not bad Snowsquatch (like your picks for the actors), but I think you would have to have Mac and the twins in the first movie. I see Mac dying at the end so Heather can take over in the sequel.
We could see Mac in a flashback; several flashbacks, really. And the twins could be seen in passing, but I think their psychological complexes are too heavy for an "intro" movie. Maybe movie 2? (Besides, hasn't NorthStar joined the X-Men?)

Think of it like StarWars: the Byrne material is the prequel stuff, and we are dumped into the middle of the action with plenty of "backstory" established for Heather, Micheal, and Walter.


At the end Mac is (supposedly) killed by the Master, Marrina is accepted onto the team and Heather is offered the job as team leader.
But that would violate "canon." The way I see it, "canon" is everything John Bynre did. All the movie events would have to follow John's contributions. Mac was killed by Jaxxon/Box, but that story arc is too long for a movie, I think.

As for "the Master" I think the whole Marrina/Master/Plodex story is way too big for a movie.

Nemesis is the perfect movie villain because:

a) we still know so little about her,
b) leaving lots for a movie writer to fill in,
c) without violating John Byrne's canon.

She also looks cool. Can you see her sneaking around in a Mountie uniform, with her sword hiding in place of a Mountie's normal sword? 8)

I also see her beating Vindicator and getting away with her geothermal suit. (Girls Fighting = Very Cool) Heather is (reluctantly) forced to don the electromagnetic Guardian suit to face Nemesis a second time. Just imagine Nemesis in the Vindicator suit! :shock:


Welcome to the boards Snowsquatch! :D
Why, thank you!

[Snowsquatch]

I also think Graham Greene could be a great Shaman, but that would require seeing him as a much older character.

It would also require changing him from an "action" type to a "Gandalf/Yoda/Xavier" type. That would be ok with me!

And, he's Canadian!

http://www.nativecelebs.com/gallery/albums/intothewest/graham_greene.jpg

[Snowsquatch]

Ok, now we need a Canadian gal to play Narya and Wanda/Sasquatch.

Is Kim Cattrall too old? I don't think so.
http://img.mysan.de/mybabes/kim_cattrall_medium.jpg

Natasha Henstridge?
http://www.canadians.ca/celebs/natasha_henstridge-slide.jpg

Sarah Polley?
http://cdn.compuserve.com/gallery/i/p/polley/widownload.jpg

Elisha Cuthbert?
http://www.elisha-cuthbert.com/elisha-cuthbert-2.jpg

But all these women are very "white" and not exotic looking enough (except for Natasha, I suppose). Sigh, I wish Kristin Kruek was taller.

[Snowsquatch]

Ok, I think I have someone "exotic" enough for Narya:
http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Catwalk/1337/yasrw6.jpg

Yasmeen Ghauri is Canadian, grew up in Montreal. She's 5'10". Ethnic background: German/Pakistani. Born 1971.

Obviously, she'll need a platinum dye job. :)

But she was a model, not an actress.
http://www.starfool.com/images/Yasmeen_Ghauri.jpg

[Legerd]

We could see Mac in a flashback; several flashbacks, really. And the twins could be seen in passing, but I think their psychological complexes are too heavy for an "intro" movie. Maybe movie 2? (Besides, hasn't NorthStar joined the X-Men?)

Mac is too major a player in Alpha history to be shown only in flashbacks, it would like not having Prof. X in the X-men movies because he's no longer in the X-men comics.



At the end Mac is (supposedly) killed by the Master, Marrina is accepted onto the team and Heather is offered the job as team leader.
But that would violate "canon." The way I see it, "canon" is everything John Bynre did. All the movie events would have to follow John's contributions. Mac was killed by Jaxxon/Box, but that story arc is too long for a movie, I think.

I don't think there's been a single movie adaptation that maintained a comic's continuity exactly. In the Punisher Frank Castle is an FBI officer instead of a Viet Nam vet; in X-men Magneto's first appearance is when he tries to mutate normal humans unlike his attempt to steal nuclear missles as in the comic. In The Hulk Bruce Banner isn't a scientist developing a gamma bomb for the military, in fact he's the exact opposite.
As long as Mac "dies" it matters little if it's at the hands of Jaxxon or the Master.


As for "the Master" I think the whole Marrina/Master/Plodex story is way too big for a movie.

Ah that's where you tell most of it in flashbacks as far as the plodex/Master history goes. All the heroes need to know is he wants to kill Marrina because he believes her to be a threat to "his" world.


Nemesis is the perfect movie villain because:

a) we still know so little about her,
b) leaving lots for a movie writer to fill in,
c) without violating John Byrne's canon.

She also looks cool. Can you see her sneaking around in a Mountie uniform, with her sword hiding in place of a Mountie's normal sword? 8)

I also see her beating Vindicator and getting away with her geothermal suit. (Girls Fighting = Very Cool) Heather is (reluctantly) forced to don the electromagnetic Guardian suit to face Nemesis a second time. Just imagine Nemesis in the Vindicator suit! :shock:

Granted Nemesis is cool (both in looks and skills) but she isn't really a villain. At best she's an anti-hero, at worst a violent vigilante. And I pray the geothermal suit is NEVER brought into an Alpha film! UGH! I hate that bit of nonsensical imagination by Seagle. However, a cat fight between Nemesis and Heather would be... nice. :wink: By the way why would Nemesis be wearing a mountie uniform? :? (Oh, and mounties don't normally carry swords except for ceremonies, and then only the officers.)



Welcome to the boards Snowsquatch! :D
Why, thank you!

You're quite welcome. :D

[Le Messor]

Hi, Snowsquatch, welcome aboard.
Now to tear you apart! Mwahahahaha! :twisted:


And the twins could be seen in passing, but I think their psychological complexes are too heavy for an "intro" movie.

But Sas in Snowbird's body isn't?

Nemesis isn't villainous enough to make a good villain. Or even an evil villain. And Heather wasn't in the geo-thermal suit yet.

Ooh, and the name's spelled 'Michael'. I'm very sensetive about that. :)

- Le Messor
"Drive defensively, buy a tank."

[Snowsquatch]

But Sas in Snowbird's body isn't?
But it would be incredibly funny, too!


Nemesis isn't villainous enough to make a good villain. Or even an evil villain. And Heather wasn't in the geo-thermal suit yet.
For me, the time-sensitive issues aren't too important, except for Byrne's stuff.


Ooh, and the name's spelled 'Michael'. I'm very sensetive about that.
okey dokey

[Snowsquatch]

Mac is too major a player in Alpha history to be shown only in flashbacks, it would like not having Prof. X in the X-men movies because he's no longer in the X-men comics.

I don't think there's been a single movie adaptation that maintained a comic's continuity exactly. [...] As long as Mac "dies" it matters little if it's at the hands of Jaxxon or the Master.
You're right, of course. I just prefer - if there is to be a "canon" - it should be all of Byrne's work.

And I find having both Guardian and Vindicator together strange and cramped. The storyline of her regretfully taking on his role in AF is one of my favorite parts of AF. The fact that he keeps "coming back" (but not really, as robot/clone/timetravel) is also an interesting storyline.

Your point about Xavier is interesting, but notice he's "in it" but "not in it" also. In both movies Xavier is "unavailable" for a large part, because if he was there would be no stress for the other X-Men. So it is with AF: the absence of Mac is a hard stressor for everyone to handle.

OK, I'll compromise: Mac is in the movie prologue, where the origins of AF are (briefly) explained. Mac dies in that scene, at the hands of Jaxxon in the Box suit. (Hmm, that's a good contrast to Nemesis in the Vindicator suit at the end. 8)).

(Jaxxon in the Box. :lol: Is that a 20 year old joke nobody got until now?)


As for "the Master" I think the whole Marrina/Master/Plodex story is way too big for a movie.


Ah that's where you tell most of it in flashbacks as far as the plodex/Master history goes. All the heroes need to know is he wants to kill Marrina because he believes her to be a threat to "his" world.

I also forgot to mention: the Plodex subplot isn't my favourite part of AF, and Marrina isn't my favourite character. So I'd prefer it was all avoided in a movie.


Granted Nemesis is cool (both in looks and skills) but she isn't really a villain. At best she's an anti-hero, at worst a violent vigilante. And I pray the geothermal suit is NEVER brought into an Alpha film! UGH! I hate that bit of nonsensical imagination by Seagle. However, a cat fight between Nemesis and Heather would be... nice. :wink: By the way why would Nemesis be wearing a mountie uniform? :? (Oh, and mounties don't normally carry swords except for ceremonies, and then only the officers.)
The thermal suit powers provide differentiation from Guardian. I hate the green/yellow/white colors, though.

I can imagine red/white uniforms for Guardian and Vindicator that are different, though. Guardian would closely resemble the "flag suit" while Vindicator would be all white, with red armor pads. She could emit flame from her hands and feet (the source of her flight, not electro-levitation), and she could completely cover herself in flame (a la Human Torch).

Nemesis would be wearing a Mountie uniform as disguise (for 1 scene, at most). Yes, I know about the ceremonies. Lots of ceremonies happen in Ottawa, every day.
Nemesis (in the thermal suit) would prefer to cloak completely in flame, and cover her sword in flame, too. Just imagine that!

[Snowsquatch]

Nemesis isn't villainous enough to make a good villain. Or even an evil villain.
Oh, I disagree!

What motivates a great villan? The belief she is really doing good!

(Anakin Skywalker, who came to believe the Jedi are liars and betrayers. Or Angel, after he fell under the influence of Apocalyspe. A fallen hero is the best kind villan.)

How's this for a plotline: Nemesis sought to destroy Deadly Earnest because she's an agent of Death, sent to retrive those who have escaped him. And who has escaped him lately? Sasquatch? Mac?

And how does Death do this: though the sword Skell. When the sword is touched by someone who knows of one sought by Death, the sword possesses that person (ie becomes Nemesis).

When Deadly Earnest's daughter touched Skell, she became Nemesis. In the movie, a plot element could be "Who is Nemesis now? Who is she looking to kill?"

(None of that is consistent with Nemesis in AF version III, but very consistent with Byrne's AF.)

There is so much we don't know about her, a really creative writer could make her explicable, yet still sinister.

I think the distiction between Nemesis (murder, secrecy, vigilatism) and AF (capture, truth, peace-keeping) makes for a good "moral of the story."

[Snowsquatch]

When it comes to Guardian and Vindicator - Mac is dead. Heather Hudson is the new Guardian/Vindicator. I think Alpha Flight only needs one or the other, not both.

For an AF movie, Mac is an important part of the backstory, but the movie story should be about Heather.

This comes down simply to my personal preferences. I prefer an AF led by Heather. To me, an Alpha Flight around her, Shaman, and Sasquatch is the perfect blend of she/he/thing that a small hero team needs.

I'm simply partial to small hero teams. I think part of the reason AF hasn't been a great sucess over the years is: too many heroes in one team.

Canada doesn't need the enormous X-Men, it needs the Fantastic Four.

If AF needs a fourth member, it would be Puck, not Mac or Northstar or anyone else.

I realize this is my personal revisionism. I'm just not too attached to most non-Byrne AF stuff. When Byrne killed Mac, for me it killed him for good.

I think the greatest flaws in AF over the years has been trying to resurrect Mac, not appreciating how cool Heather is, and adding other boring heroes. (Yukon Jack? Flex? Murmur? Man-Bot? Major Mapleleaf? Give me a break!)

I think if there could be a good AF movie, a necessary tenet would be: Keep It Simple, Marvel.

[Snowsquatch]

I was going to make a suggestion for Q'Orianka Kilcher(Pocahontas, The New World) as Talisman but I guess she's actually german and not to mention only 15. I thought she may have been a little older, I haven't seen the film
There's no way she's only 15.
http://www.celebopedia.com/qorianka-kilcher/images/qorianka-kilcher.jpg
Regardless, she's beautiful. She would be great as Snowbird or Talisman.

[shaman]

Yep, she's only 15.
this is taken from imdb.com

Q'Orianka Kilcher

Date of birth (location)
11 February 1990
Schweigmait, Germany

[shaman]

Granted, she does look like she could play someone who is 19 or 20

[Le Messor]

Q'Orianka Kilcher?
Never heard of her.
But she is -so- Talisman!

I thought Annakin's fall was handled very shoddily, and he didn't have the positive motives he needed. He went from 'I want to save my secret wife' to 'I'll gladly slaughter a roomful of younglings, because apparently the SWG doesn't have children' in a matter of minutes.
I'm not going to say that's unrealistic, but it was very poorly handled.

But, your point is taken; it's a basic premise of writing: Every villain believes they're good.

That said, I still don't think Nemesis is evil enough. At least, not the Byrne version. (NB: Byrne's Nem is my favourite character. Period. ...okay, maybe Daniel Grey, but none of you have ever heard of him.8))

I've been reading your detailed, very thought-out movie premise as if it were in continuity, because it reads that way to me. But, yes, I've noticed there's never been a single in-continuity comic book movie.
So I want AF to be the first. So shoot me.

- Le Messor
"Draw your salary before spending it."

[Snowsquatch]

I thought Annakin's fall was handled very shoddily, and he didn't have the positive motives he needed. He went from 'I want to save my secret wife' to 'I'll gladly slaughter a roomful of younglings, because apparently the SWG doesn't have children' in a matter of minutes.
I'm not going to say that's unrealistic, but it was very poorly handled.
The explanation lies in A New Hope: "The Force can have a strong influence on the weak-minded."

Anakin isn't just converted, he's "brain-washed." As Obi-Wan observes later: "You've allowed this dark lord to twist your mind..." Which echoes the line from Return of the Jedi: "twisted and evil."

Yoda observes that Anakin's mind is "twisted by the dark side." He is no longer Anakin, he is a different person: Vader.

When Anakin says: "I will do anything you ask, just help me save Padme's life.." - he is completely surrendering his will over to Palpatine. And Palpatine then sticks his "tendrils" in...

Watch the scene of Anakin's conversion again. See the look on Anakin's face as he drops to his knees? He's being manipulated by the Force. Listen to Palpatine's voice: the vocal distortion indicates the Force-influence Anakin hears in his head. He is utterly mesmerized.

That horrible breathing noise Palpatine makes: that's Palpatine sucking the free will out of Anakin. The next look you see on Anakin's face: pure evil.

Palpatine uses the dark side to twist Anakin from "mostly good" to "mostly evil."

Vader can still feel guilt for his actions (we see him cry), but he cannot control his actions. As he tells Luke: "I must obey my master!"

That's why he is so ready to slaughter children after being converted.

[Snowsquatch]

Yep, she's only 15.
this is taken from imdb.com

Apparently, she is the second cousin of Jewel Kilcher.

I think I prefer her as Snowbird now. She just seems right.

[JackFrostUK]

Spot on choices with the Station Agent guy as Puck, Sarah Polley as Heather.

How about Milla Jovovich as Aurora?

[Shaman Of The Whills]

One question I had, beyond just actor choices is the decision of preference of reality against CGI. The big question for me would be how to manage Sasquatch in his changed appearance. The suggestion has already been made for a prosthetic suit and CGI, but I'm still not quite settled on that... I was majorly disappointed with Ben Grimm in the Fantastic Four movie, although other applications have been equally disappointing...

Marvel Failure in Costuming (http://www.teako170.com/ffmovie.html)
Marvel Failure in CGI (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Hulk001.jpg)
Marvel Mediocrity in Fusion (http://www.canmag.com/images/frontother/fanfour/thing.jpg)

So what to do, what to do?

[Snowsquatch]

I think a non-CGI Sasquatch would be a mistake. If he isn't leaping around like an orangutan it won't be him.

I also thought the CGI Hulk was great! The Hulk vs the tanks was great stuff, and really funny. (Kinda outta place in such a slow-moving film.)

Hollywood has managed to make some great CGI apes (King Kong, anyone?) so not going CGI would just be dumb.

I think a guy-in-a-suit could work for some stuff, but really the actor would be too immobile for the action.

[sinisterLemon]

With respect to Sasquatch as being suited as a CGI character....I dunno, it seems to be a toss up.

I think going with CGI is ultimately a liability when it comes to dating the movie fairly quickly (for any disbelievers--go back and watch The Mummy Returns for the Scorpion King's appearance at the end of the film). It's best used when the audience isn't going to see much in terms of detail; ideally for faster paced shots in action sequences.

Ideally, you'd probably want to make the character a little of both (CGI for action sequences and costuming for regular shots) like Nightcrawler in X2. I'm especially intrigued at the way Kelsey Grammar looks as Beast for the upcoming X3 movie. Case in point; I'm pretty sure they will be using CGI work for his action sequences even though in the promo shots they are clearly showing him in a costume.

....as for my pick for an AF movie character?

Here's a bit of a longshot but how 'bout Canadian Olympic Curling Skip Shannon Kleibrink? While not an actor, she can make up for it by the fact that she actually hails from Okhotoks AB, near Heather's home town of High River........

http://www.tsn.ca/images/stories/20050928/kleibrink1_59633.jpg

http://images.theglobeandmail.com/archives/RTGAM/images/20060213/wkleib13/1kleibrink.jpg

[shaman]

I just got done watching the ultimate avengers movie and I thought "why not try to get marvel to go in that route for an Alpha Flight movie?". I mean, hell there going to release a Doctor Strange animated feature on feb 2007, why not to get them to look at AF vol1 for 2008

[Le Messor]

CG vs. suit...

Should be both. Suit where possible, CG where -necessary-. Never overuse CG! (And, remember, I'm trying to get a job in the CG industry as I say this!)

Sas could be great if combined right.

The original FF movie: Deeply flawed. But that story, with today's FX and the budget of the second movie, would be a far, far better movie than that was.

The Hulk? Sucked in that movie. I loved him in Shrek.

- Le Messor.
"Dyslexics Of The World - Untie!"

[Snowsquatch]

I didn't know Evangeline Lilly was Canadian until now.

She could make a great Narya/Sas II, or Heather.

http://www.prettycelebrities.net/actrices/evangeline_lilly/evangeline_lilly10.jpg

I think Lilly as Narya and Warren as Heather are the best choices.

BTW, I saw Beowulf and Grendel the other day. I can now say I think Sarah Polley could look the part of Heather, but her acting in that movie was so flat I don't think I could forgive her.

[shaman]

Beowulf and Grendel, I haven't seen that, when was it made? I've only seen Sarah Polley in Baron Munchausen and Dawn of the Dead. I didn't really care for the movie Dawn of the Dead but I thought she did a good job acting.

[Transmetropolitan]

She's also awesome in Go, a staggeringly underexposed movie.

Don't know that I see her as Heather, but all things are possible.

[Snowsquatch]

Yeah, GO was awesome.

You know, I think either Lilly or Warren could be great for Heather or Narya. Both work for me. Lilly would have to dye her hair for Heather, but somehow life would go on. ;)

Of course, by the time an AF movie is made, both of these women will probably retired or dead. :( Marvel can barely manage a worthy AF comic book, really. (Gripping about MML, Puck II, and Yukon Jack begins here....)

[shaman]

I wanted to see what Sarah Polley would look like if the suit was put on her so I drew it out, doesn't look to bad

http://forum.alphaflight.net/album_pic.php?pic_id=722
plus I'm like one post away from getting Alpha Flight by my name

[Snowsquatch]

Interesting take on the flag suit.

[Legerd]

I just stumbled across this article while googling AF info:

http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/200/200332p1.html

Seems we aren't the only ones thinking about this.

[Shaman Of The Whills]

Wow, that's an impressive find... I'll admit I'm surprised... maybe not because the article is a little older and its possible the article passed by me closer to its original release date... but I thought I would've remembered such an article... oh well... certainly some interesting commentary or ideas... although I'm intrigued by it, I'm not really sure if I like the idea of De Niro as Puck... I'm still quite happy with our selection as a reasonable individual who could pull off a good dwarf superhero.

composed of a scientist and his “freaks"
:o :cry: Freaks? Freaks?

“damaged goods”
Okay, not exactly the phrase I'd use... but at least the general idea behind much of the Alpha appeal to me...

[Snowsquatch]

I don't like this revision very much. Sounds too much like X-Flies meets the X-Men.

The whole "sinister Dept H" idea has become very deflated for me. If AF became a movie, I hope Dept H would never be mentioned.

Besides, Department H sounds too much like "Preparation H" to me. :)

Also, I think re-casting Puck as a mere "dwarven thief" and murderer doesn't do him much justice. Byrne's vision was much more interesting.

And making Bochs a betrayer? How horrid!

I've already said it (but I like repeating myself): treat Byrne's vision as canon, and the core fans will be grateful. Screw with that and you risk alienating them. Especially if the revision is less interesting than Byrne's.

Notice that he says the film would focus on Heather and Puck, but barely mentions Heather. What will she do, other than become horrified about her dead husband's evil deeds?

(My version may have the same flaw. I'll go check....)

[Snowsquatch]

I think I still prefer Estella Warren as Heather. Pardon my lousy Photoshop skills.

http://static.flickr.com/34/123073249_c9349cfbdf_o.jpg

[Le Messor]

I don't like this revision very much. Sounds too much like X-Flies meets the X-Men.

Oew, no. Not another X-Flies meets X-Men. That's sooo last century!

(Same thing, serious tone: )
I got tired of Marvel ripping off the X-Files constantly in the 90's. More, I got sick of them, with their usual attitude, going 'X-Files is popular, X-Files has gov't conspiracy, ergo gov't conspiracy is popular, ipso-facto let's put gov't conspiracy into every title we produce. Vis a vis! Concordantly!'
(Okay, that got a little less serious.)

It's a huge part of what I hated about v2.


Besides, Department H sounds too much like "Preparation H" to me. :)

Well, Departments A through G were complete failures, but Department H feels pretty good on the whole...


I've already said it (but I like repeating myself): treat Byrne's vision as canon, and the core fans will be grateful. Screw with that and you risk alienating them. Especially if the revision is less interesting than Byrne's

Okay, now say it to Marvel. And get them to listen. I'd be grateful for one. The grateful not dead.

- Le Messor
"A black eye heals, but cowardice has an unlimited shelf life."
- Xander