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DelBubs
02-28-2006, 01:49 PM
Now why would Wolverine be battling S.H.I.E.L.D again, so soon after 'Enemy of the State' ? (http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/index.cgi?column=bmb)

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kozzi24
02-28-2006, 01:53 PM
lack of editorial focus?
Kirikman thinks he can do it better?
Wolvie just learns Northstar is in SHIELD possession and launches a guilt-motivated rescue?

DelBubs
02-28-2006, 02:05 PM
Now I'd like to think it was the third option. The idea of Wolvie going up against S.H.I.E.L.D without bumping into Northstar, seems totally absurd. However this is Marvel and it's not as if absurd hasn't been seen before. Then we have that statement from Mr Quesada regarding Northstar.

Then again it will probably be just another Wolvie appearence that features S.H.I.E.L.D for four panels, but a revamped 'Champions' with Wolvie and Northstar in the line up would be interesting.

JackFrostUK
02-28-2006, 02:49 PM
I'm guessing its promo art for a new S.H.I.E.L.D. series that will spin off from the fallout of Civil War.

DelBubs
02-28-2006, 03:25 PM
I'm guessing its promo art for a new S.H.I.E.L.D. series that will spin off from the fallout of Civil War.
Could be, but I can't see no mention of a new S.H.I.E.L.D. in either the 'Cup O Joe' panel or 'Civil War' panel reports at Newsarama.

JackFrostUK
02-28-2006, 03:33 PM
New Avengers are not on good terms with S.H.I.E.L.D. as seen in New Avengers #16. Civil War will make things worse.

I think a new SHIELD series would be a good idea.

Who would you want as the writer?

DelBubs
02-28-2006, 03:45 PM
So if Kirkman is not gonna be doing a new S.H.I.E.L.D. series (considering Kirkman says that this is an ongoing, I doubt it would be S.H.I.E.L.D.) then they could appear in a mini series following Civil War. If they did I wouldn't mind seeing Chuck Dixon or Greg Rucka pen a story for them.

Ben
02-28-2006, 04:39 PM
Complete shot in the dark here. Maybe this is a page from the new Alpha Flight? We have speculated that Wolvie will be part of it, maybe he's on his way to Shield to grab NS to take back to AF.

Ben

kozzi24
02-28-2006, 05:02 PM
COULDN'T THIS BE THE START OF THE 2ND AVENGERS BOOK THAT HAS BEEN TEASED AT?

DelBubs
02-28-2006, 05:06 PM
I discounted a new Alpha Flight book, because to have finished art so soon doesn't seem that plausible. A Northstar limited may have been a reasonable bet, but Kirkman says it's ongoing. Wolverine Origins (whatever it's called seems to be a non starter, prolly why I opted for a revamped 'Champion', I'm sure 'The Champions' was mentioned at a recent Newsrama story by Mr Quesada.

Kozzi, I hadn't considered the second 'Avengers' book, good call.

Mokole
02-28-2006, 05:40 PM
I don't know. It could be Alpha flight related since it's not a Wolverine book. But who knows? AF or Avengers Flight, returning to get Northstar for more hardcore AF, who knows? An old story had Wolverine leaving New Avengers after Civil War or earlier, so it's all guesswork, Again. :roll:

Shaman Of The Whills
02-28-2006, 05:58 PM
I wouldn't guess that its from an Alpha Flight book... and I also don't mind Wovlie slicing up more SHIELD boys, they've gone way off the mark... plus, I like the art and artist a whole bunch.

DelBubs
03-27-2006, 05:54 PM
Taken from the last Joe Friday's.
NRAMA: Speculation has centered on a West Coast Avengers branch, or even a Canadian branch involving Alpha Flight. We’re now wondering if post-Civil War, Cap and Iron Man will both form their own Avengers team, perhaps even at odds with one another, competing for “official” sanction as “the” true Avengers team…

JQ: Well, that’s a great theory, but not quite. By the way, I guess you missed when Tom Brevoort said at the Civil War panel that there would be no West Coast Avengers.

Shaman Of The Whills
03-27-2006, 08:39 PM
Well, some suggestions that I've heard elsewhere is that the book from which this is drawn is actually Ant-Man... although how precisely that was directly associated with the provided picture, I'm not really sure...

As to the no West Coast Avengers thing, I also heard another suggestion about how Wolverine could indeed play a role in a new Alpha Flight/Avengers North type thing, leaving America after Civil War to go to Canada... but I'm still hesitant to agree with that given that Wolverine will still be America tied to the Astonishing X-Men book... and while JW has been given plenty of freedoms in working outside the realm of direct influences of other people, he still has to work some continuity.

I'm now in the line that there will be a SHIELD title, but to be honest I'm not entirely sure that this would be it given the action of the provided photo... really, am just not sure, but I loved Hester's work on GA, and while I've now come to associate that style with him, if the story is good I'm sure I can extend it to this...

My problem is that they'll drop photos like this, announce the title and then we'll never really even make the connection... to be quite honest, I'd already pretty much forgotten about this photo/series without a name... so its just frustration... oh well. So if anyone learns what this actually is... please be sure to share.

Phil
03-28-2006, 07:57 AM
If you're on about the very last image it's from Kirkman/Hester's new Ant-Man ongoing.

Wolverine is at odds with SHIELD again though since the whole Secret War incident, plus they're not too keen on him having all his memories back since HoM and the fact that he's with the Avengers. Fury is now no longer with SHIELD so Northstar is pretty much not known about.

Shaman Of The Whills
03-28-2006, 12:46 PM
I knew that they were doing Ant-Man... I just wasn't sure exactly what relevance that image would have to an Ant-Man comic... do you have any ideas about why they would use Wolverine as such in an Ant-Man comic (aside from the obvious suggestion that it would be a marketing ploy, etc.)? That is the only reason I was hesitant to say that the image was from Ant-Man, despite all the evidence in favor...

EDIT (April 3rd): Here (http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=d59b337c58761c6396d93fbc4e27c640&threadid=65421) is more information about the upcoming series... so yes, for absolutely sure that is Hester and that is drawn from Ant-man. I actually really enjoyed this enterview because for the first time ever we got some real information from a marveler, at least some real hints as to the purpose and possible appeal of the series.[/url]

DelBubs
04-24-2006, 03:23 PM
Recently posted at Newsarama (http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68150)

Mike Oeming says he's got "something huge coming" from Marvel in September, but he can't announce it yet.

Is it Thor? "No! It's not Thor!" he said adamantly. "But I can say it kind of spins out of the tail end of Civil War."

Mokole
04-24-2006, 08:44 PM
Artist on no Alpha Flight? hmmm...

Or Mike Deodato's project?

DelBubs
04-28-2006, 06:39 PM
NRAMA: Keeping with the Pittsburgh con, Mike Oeming teased a few things, that he has a “something huge” spinning out of Civil War this September (that is not Thor). We haven’t double-checked to see if Oeming is originally from Canada, but one title certainly springs to mind…

JQ: I believe Oeming is from the barren, icy wilderness of New Jersey.

NRAMA: He also mentioned Beta Ray Bill showing up in a regular series, and reiterated that Ares will be joining a super-team. Anything you can add to any of this?

JQ: Nope, so far it sounds like a plan, but it’s way too early to talk about. But thinking about this, if you’re hinting at Oeming writing Alpha Flight, are Beta Ray Bill and Ares Canadian?

http://www.newsarama.com/JoeFridays/JoeFridays48.html

All I get from this is that Canadians will feature heavily in any new Alpha.

DelBubs
05-15-2006, 05:44 AM
Double Post (Oh No!!!)

CIVIL WAR #4 (OF 7)
Written by MARK MILLAR
Pencils & Cover by STEVE MCNIVEN
Variant cover by MIKE TURNER
A death! A funeral! A betrayal! And a team reborn as the war takes a deadly turn!
32 PGS./Rated T+ ...$2.99

Shaman Of The Whills
05-16-2006, 12:52 PM
And a team reborn as the war takes a deadly turn!
Oh, I figured that to just be the "New 'New "New 'New Avengers'"'"... or perhaps the Heroes for Hire... but that issue seems so far away that who knows what may arise between now and then.