Snowbird's use to team

[mos_def]

can someone please let me know. Ive always been okay with her but I fond her to be limiting. She used to be bound to Canada (wether that has changed since AIM I dont know) She doesnt like to change into Sasquatch form and we have Walt anyways. I always remember her as turning into a owl. She doesnt use the limited precog vision she has to see the past and she doesnt use that high harmonic thing she does to hypnotize people. Can someone give an argument for her.

[cmdrkoenig67]

can someone please let me know. Ive always been okay with her but I fond her to be limiting. She used to be bound to Canada (wether that has changed since AIM I dont know) She doesnt like to change into Sasquatch form and we have Walt anyways. I always remember her as turning into a owl. She doesnt use the limited precog vision she has to see the past and she doesnt use that high harmonic thing she does to hypnotize people. Can someone give an argument for her.

A couple of corrections. MD...That would be "Postcognition", not precognition that she possesses (although, who knows...she may possess some degree of precognition too, it's just never been shown). "High harmonic thing to hypnotize people"?...You must be thinking of Songbird. Snowbird can mentally coerce others(seizing control of their minds...i.e. Northstar) to aid her against the Great Beasts...Harmonics or hypnotism aren't involved.

I love that Narya has always had her own agenda (guarding/fighting against the Great Beasts), but helps the team when they need her. She's superhumanly strong, can fly, change into any beast of the arctic...all pretty useful talents.

Dana

[-K-M-]

Even in vol.1 when Snowbird became mortal she was no longer bound by Canada and could transform any creature native of Earth.

Here's here alpahnex entry:
http://alphanex.alphaflight.net/index.php/Snowbird

Even recently in Exiles Snowbird banished an elder God back to his dimension

[birdygirl]

Snowbird had a lot of possibilities.She could fly great distances in her human form. Her animal forms could be used in all sorts of ways: for example, her bird form flying overhead could be used as an unobtrusive spy; if she took the form of musk ox or even Sasquatch, she could provide additional strength to the team; and if she turned into a swarm of mosquitoes, she could get through tight spaces, (see AF vol.1, #4). She also had great strength in her human form, (also #4).

I agree that her post-cognitive sight was underused, only in two AF stories that I can remember: AF, vol.1, #3; and Marvel Fanfare #35?, (not sure of the number, but it was that issue with Northstar). An interesting bit of trivia about Birdie's post-cognitive sight: I once asked John Byrne about it at a con, and he said that he actually didn't come up with it until AF, vol. 1, #3. He needed a way to show a quick recap of the previous issue's events, and so he instantly made up a new power for Snowbird just to do this.

She also seemed to have some precognitive sense as well, though this didn't seem as well developed. (See the backstory in AF vol.1, #8, where she first meets Mac, and she says that she senses that he will call her something rather than "Narya".)

She also had the ability to compel others to obey her, (see AF, vol. 1, #12). This probably only could be used in connection with fighting the Great Beasts, but could it have been used in other situations? This was another power that needed to be explored.

She also had a healing factor, which meant that her injuries or illnesses wouldn't be permanent; and she couldn't stay dead, (but then who in Marvel does?). :lol:

I also think Snowbird added a lot of charisma to the team, with her ties to the native gods, and her half-breed nature, (in which her aloof demi-goddess side was in constant conflict with her human side). I believe she did add a lot to this interesting team.

[cmdrkoenig67]

She also seemed to have some precognitive sense as well, though this didn't seem as well developed. (See the backstory in AF vol.1, #8, where she first meets Mac, and she says that she senses that he will call her something rather than "Narya".)

I totally forgot that moment between she and mac...I stand corrected about her not being shown using precognitive abilities, thanks Birdygirl.

Dana :D

[birdygirl]

You're welcome! :D

Incidentally, John Byrne once said that, in early days, Snowbird "had the hots" for Mac. Fortunately, this was another tidbit that was never developed. :lol:

[mos_def]

Mac and Heather most have been one hot couple.

Heather (even though they drew her dorky in the beginning) had Mac, Logan, Madison and Puck all liking her

Mac had Heather, Snowbird, Aurora, and Murmur

Now, question is, were they hot or was it the fact that they had no socail life and the average person started looking like a supermodel syndrome.

[Canucklehead]

Heather (even though they drew her dorky in the beginning)...
... and the average person started looking like a supermodel syndrome.

http://www.alphaflight.net/character_galleries/guardian2/guardian2_gallery1.jpg

http://www.alphaflight.net/character_galleries/guardian2/guardian2_gallery17.jpg

Naw, you're crazy, she hasn't changed a bit! :wink:

[syvalois]

Mac and Heather most have been one hot couple.

Heather (even though they drew her dorky in the beginning) had Mac, Logan, Madison and Puck all liking her

Mac had Heather, Snowbird, Aurora, and Murmur

Now, question is, were they hot or was it the fact that they had no socail life and the average person started looking like a supermodel syndrome.

No, Mac and Heather had personality and substance which was a change to those superheroes.

[Le Messor]

She also had the ability to compel others to obey her, (see AF, vol. 1, #12).

#24

(The Marvel Fanfare is #28 )

[birdygirl]

Thanks for the correction; it was AF, vol.1, #24 and Marvel Fanfare #28.

I must be getting old. :oops:

[Le Messor]

It isn't so much that the mistake happened...

It's that you slipped up on Snowbird knowledge. What's the world coming to? :shock:

- Le Messor
"History never repeats, in no man's life."
- Split Enz

[kozzi24]

Heather (even though they drew her dorky in the beginning)...
... and the average person started looking like a supermodel syndrome.

http://www.alphaflight.net/character_galleries/guardian2/guardian2_gallery1.jpg

Naw, you're crazy, she hasn't changed a bit! :wink:

The goggles, the red and white, the weapon...what a reminder why I never believed that Byrne did not intend Heather to begin wearing the suit at one point.