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varo
09-12-2006, 02:06 PM
http://www.popcultureshock.com/index.php?p=40234

DelBubs
09-12-2006, 02:17 PM
Gotta love that pic, even if it is only for research. Reading that interview gives me lot's of hope for this title.

varo
09-12-2006, 02:20 PM
it really seems that scott and oeming really have their roots in the original byrne run.

Guardian
09-12-2006, 02:37 PM
Reading this interview really makes me like this book even more. It's good that both of the members of the creative team are avid AF fans and that they're both doing they're homework.

Canucklehead
09-12-2006, 02:37 PM
Man that was great. I'm getting more and more excited for this title. Visuals are very important to the story and I love how he sounds so attentive to detail. No matter how well a book is written, if the art is bad, it turns me right off.

"Who wrote that stuff in Alpha?? Good grief..." lol Lobdell burn

PS
Can I ask you guys how to add an image to the signature? I tried adding even just text for a sig and save my profile, but it doesn't change anything. lol Am I doing something wrong?

Oeming
09-12-2006, 03:22 PM
it really seems that scott and oeming really have their roots in the original byrne run.

Truth be told, when we started, it was all about getting away from old Flight because of sales- and thats still our MARKETING stratagy, but more time goes by, the more we are incorporating things from the original Flight:)

It wont look like that, especially in the firs few issues, but trust me, at this point the book is very grounded in Flights history and tradition.


M!

Northcott
09-12-2006, 03:29 PM
I'm jazzed. What I said before with "If I can't work on it, I'm glad these guys are"? Twice as strong a sentiment after reading that interview.

-K-M-
09-12-2006, 03:32 PM
I like the Snowbird sketch :)

varo
09-12-2006, 04:54 PM
it really seems that scott and oeming really have their roots in the original byrne run.

Truth be told, when we started, it was all about getting away from old Flight because of sales- and thats still our MARKETING stratagy, but more time goes by, the more we are incorporating things from the original Flight:)

It wont look like that, especially in the firs few issues, but trust me, at this point the book is very grounded in Flights history and tradition.


M!


i completely understand, but at least we know that the same issues that we read and loved a long time ago are the same ones that influenced both you and kollins to pitch this book and for him to want to draw it.

now we need to see more skteches or plots of the upcoming series. :D

Ahab
09-12-2006, 07:10 PM
Truth be told, when we started, it was all about getting away from old Flight because of sales- and thats still our MARKETING stratagy, but more time goes by, the more we are incorporating things from the original Flight:) It wont look like that, especially in the firs few issues, but trust me, at this point the book is very grounded in Flights history and tradition.


:D

RolandT
09-12-2006, 07:24 PM
Nice to hear! This book will just be that darn good!

-K-M-
09-12-2006, 08:47 PM
Much respect to Oeming for talking to the fans and informing us...all will be well :D

PWalk
09-12-2006, 08:55 PM
The more I hear the more I like it. That sketch is great. I'd bid on it if the proceeds were going in the right direction. :idea: :idea:

Guardian
09-12-2006, 11:07 PM
PS
Can I ask you guys how to add an image to the signature? I tried adding even just text for a sig and save my profile, but it doesn't change anything. lol Am I doing something wrong?

Yeah, I spent at least an hour yesterday trying to get an image into my signature. I put my particular image into the photo album on the site here. And tried to cut and paste it, but it didn't work. I guess I was doing something wrong. I tried typing it in manualy into the signature (surrounded by the appropriate and stuff and it still didn't work.

For me to get it to work I did this: I have a photobucket account. So I found an image I liked of the internet and saved it to my computer. I went to my photobucket account and uploaded it to my account. Then it gave me an image url (among others) off my image. I then cut the url off of photobucket, went to my AF profile and pasted it into my signature. And it worked.

Guardian
09-12-2006, 11:10 PM
it really seems that scott and oeming really have their roots in the original byrne run.

Truth be told, when we started, it was all about getting away from old Flight because of sales- and thats still our MARKETING stratagy, but more time goes by, the more we are incorporating things from the original Flight:)

It wont look like that, especially in the firs few issues, but trust me, at this point the book is very grounded in Flights history and tradition.


M!

8) Good stuff to hear. Thanks for keeping us "in the loop" for as much as you can. :)

Canucklehead
09-13-2006, 12:07 AM
For me to get it to work I did this: I have a photobucket account. So I found an image I liked of the internet and saved it to my computer. I went to my photobucket account and uploaded it to my account. Then it gave me an image url (among others) off my image. I then cut the url off of photobucket, went to my AF profile and pasted it into my signature. And it worked.

Woohoo! Thanks dude, much appreciated! 8)

Le Messor
09-13-2006, 08:13 AM
but more time goes by, the more we are incorporating things from the original Flight:) It wont look like that, especially in the firs few issues, but trust me,

Forgive me,

But that's exactly what Steve Seagle told us.

... at least it looks like Omega will be a good series.

- Mik
"An atheist is someone with no invisible means of support."
- John Buchan

Canucklehead
09-13-2006, 08:51 AM
Forgive me,

But that's exactly what Steve Seagle told us.

... at least it looks like Omega will be a good series.


I actually enjoyed v2, though, there were a few things that, imo, lead to it's premature cancellation. The major one was the speratic art changes. In a 20 issue series, it went from Clark to Hitch, back to Clark to Cruz to Winn to Olivetti to Rouleau to Wood and finally back to Rouleau. Damn. How many non-flagship books out there do you think could survive that? Not many. At least with Omega we will have consistanly good art.

Another problem was some of the choices of stories. That 2 part Micronaut storyline could not have helped sales. V3 did the same thing with the Wax figure issues(again with a change of artist) so many dropped the book after that. The stories have to smart and entertaining, especially within the first 12. You have a couple yawner issues and you'll loose many readers.

Finally, the cast. V2 did have too many non-AFers. If they'd have kept Madison and had the real Sasquatch from the beggining, I think the stories would have been so much better. Add to that the constant art changes and a couple weak storylines, boom, cancelled before any of the seeds planted in the first few issues could be explored. V3 did the same thing. Too many new characters. It took 12 issues just to find out one of the members powers!

The difference with this concept is that the "new" characters are already players in the Marvel U and with their own fan base. Fans of Julia Carpenter, Beta Ray and USAgent(all two of them) are going to pick this book up. Add to that the die hard AF fans and we could see some good sales here. No one said "Major Mapleleaf Junior!? SNAP! I gotta pick this up!". That will alone keep the sales up until, as Oeming said, the originals will start to appear again. If he can come up with some great stories(as I know he can) I think we'll have a very entertaining run here.

It's up to us to keep it going. Give Mr. Oeming the time and patience and we'll see our favorites back. Give up on the book after ish 3 because there's no Sasquatch and well, I doubt you'd ever see him again. Omega = last chance people! 8)

Adam
09-13-2006, 11:37 AM
Canucklehead's right about V2. I liked it quite a bit at times, and I particularly liked it under Rouleau, but the inconsequential story lines (the Micronauts and Big Hero 6 stories lead nowhere and could be completely ignored without affecting the overall arc of the run) and the really poor inconsistent art choices killed it.

As an example, I can't fathom why they dumped this intended cover:

http://www.alphaflight.net/character_galleries/team/team_gallery29.jpg

for... ugh... this...

http://www.alphaflight.net/cover_gallery/af2_18.jpg

Reading Seagle's notes on where the series would have gone (Gentry as Mac) I think it could have been pretty good.

Canucklehead
09-13-2006, 12:12 PM
Canucklehead's right about V2. I liked it quite a bit at times, and I particularly liked it under Rouleau, but the inconsequential story lines (the Micronauts and Big Hero 6 stories lead nowhere and could be completely ignored without affecting the overall arc of the run) and the really poor inconsistent art choices killed it.

As an example, I can't fathom why they dumped this intended cover:

http://www.alphaflight.net/character_galleries/team/team_gallery29.jpg

for... ugh... this...

http://www.alphaflight.net/cover_gallery/af2_18.jpg

Reading Seagle's notes on where the series would have gone (Gentry as Mac) I think it could have been pretty good.

Exactly, man. I was thinking about the Big Hero 6 story too. I mean, it had nothing to do with anything! I must admit Rouleau's work did grow on me, as did some of the characters. Flex and Radius grew a lot durring the short run and I thought had great potential. Murmur..uh.. not so much. If the series hadn't been cancelled, I would have loved to see what Seigle had planned to actually happened. There were hints of the original team coming back just after the first year, but people couldn't wait that long and it ended just as they had come back.

There were some corny parts, I admit. I believe though that the eratic art styles (and cover art, thanks Adam) was the main cause of falling sales numbers. I remember reading the sales weren't even that low. Somewhere near +35,000. That'd be a success these days! Wasn't it at the same time Marvel was going bankrupt and had to cancel some titles? It's a shame really.

cmdrkoenig67
09-13-2006, 03:03 PM
but more time goes by, the more we are incorporating things from the original Flight:) It wont look like that, especially in the firs few issues, but trust me,

Forgive me,

But that's exactly what Steve Seagle told us.

Frightening, isn't it? Truth to tell...If he wants to DO Omega Flight, then he should DO Omega Flight...Please don't drag Alpha Flight into the equation.

Dana

RolandT
09-13-2006, 03:05 PM
I got to read Seagle's run and liked it up until they obviously told him it was cancelled and he had to cram stuff in to get done by #20. The stories were good and he didn't have the 'decompression' problem other guys have, his threads or plots moved forward and still told stories. The way things were going with the conspiracies it would've been cool to see him keep going and just make the stories bigger and bigger in scope, like he was doing. None of the characters were that good but I liked it anyway.

I have higher hopes for Omega Flight.

Canucklehead
09-13-2006, 03:40 PM
It's funny when we're talking about how good or bad v2 and 3 were when volume 1 ended so badly. I just went and read issue 128-130 for the first time. Damn, no wonder the book was cancelled. What a stinker. The art was so bad and the dialogue had me roling my eyes and skipping sections just to get through it. V2 may have had different characters but the quality was there. As for characters, I'd still much rather have a Flex or Radius over a Wyre, Goblyn or even Manikin. The books contained the Master and Dream Queen yet they're final battle was with a crappy, thrown together rendition of Omega Flight. Miss Mass? Brain Drain? ugh.

With all of it's faults, V2 was still light years ahead of the final stories in v1. If Marvel hadn't gone bankrupt, I bet we wouldn't be talking about v3 and 4 because v2 would not have failed so early and may have still been around today.

One final note, speaking of the last storyline in volume 1, I just noticed the Master said something interesting: "This then is how it ends, Alpha Flight. Your time is past. Finished. The Future--Belongs to OMEGA FLIGHT!" 8)

DelBubs
09-13-2006, 03:50 PM
It's funny when we're talking about how good or bad v2 and 3 were when volume 1 ended so badly. I just went and read issue 128-130 for the first time. Damn, no wonder the book was cancelled. What a stinker. The art was so bad and the dialogue had me roling my eyes and skipping sections just to get through it. V2 may have had different characters but the quality was there. As for characters, I'd still much rather have a Flex or Radius over a Wyre, Goblyn or even Manikin. The books contained the Master and Dream Queen yet they're final battle was with a crappy, thrown together rendition of Omega Flight. Miss Mass? Brain Drain? ugh.

With all of it's faults, V2 was still light years ahead of the final stories in v1. If Marvel hadn't gone bankrupt, I bet we wouldn't be talking about v3 and 4 because v2 would not have failed so early and may have still been around today.

One final note, speaking of the last storyline in volume 1, I just noticed the Master said something interesting: "This then is how it ends, Alpha Flight. Your time is past. Finished. The Future--Belongs to OMEGA FLIGHT!" 8)
Actually I would put down the bad ending to vol 1 down to TPTB. Furman was told he had to abandon the stories he had planned out for Alpha and involve them in Infinity Crusade (Infinity something anyways). After Infinity Crusade he was told AF was being wound up. He had to adjust to clear up the Mac thing as best as possible, thus the crappy filler and last story. As for vol 2, well I bought all the issues, read them the once and put them away.

The Future--Belongs to OMEGA FLIGHT!" I like that, The Flight begat Alpha, Alpha begat Omega. Natural progression :-)

Canucklehead
09-13-2006, 04:25 PM
Actually I would put down the bad ending to vol 1 down to TPTB. Furman was told he had to abandon the stories he had planned out for Alpha and involve them in Infinity Crusade (Infinity something anyways). After Infinity Crusade he was told AF was being wound up. He had to adjust to clear up the Mac thing as best as possible, thus the crappy filler and last story. As for vol 2, well I bought all the issues, read them the once and put them away.

The Future--Belongs to OMEGA FLIGHT!" I like that, The Flight begat Alpha, Alpha begat Omega. Natural progression :-)

Yeah I can understand that. I guess I'm a bit biased because v2 was my first intro to AF. I went back and read the Byrne run and was blown away... then I got to the later issues and lost complete interest. When Northstar, Aurora, Snowbird and Shaman disappeared and were replaced by characters like Manikin and Goblyn and they were flying around in space, yeah that was it for me lol. They may have been introduced earlier then later characters but they were still pretty lame. I'll even take MML jr over most post-Byrne characters anyday (excluding Persuasion, Witchfire and Pathway).

Powersurge
09-13-2006, 05:20 PM
I haven't read much of vol.2, or all of vol.1 (and none of vol.3 :-), but one the things that I really liked about it were the Epsilon troopers. It would have been nice to see them working in support of the heroes, perhaps being given a bit of space on their own, setting up a larger story, perhaps even being the central figures for an issue or two.

Of course, Department H would have to have a little more depth... more like the pre-volume 1 Dep.H, in which it might have been ambiguous to an extent, but which nevertheless had sound reasons for it's actions.

I guess I am also one of the few that liked (the basic idea of) both Major Mapleleaf Sr. and Major Mapleleaf Jr. Them dudes got issues that need resolving, and stories to be told.

I really don't buy that MM Sr. was a childbeater. I might buy that contemporary notions of childcare and discipline might run counter to some of those held by our culture back in the 40's. And I also buy that an "ill-favoured" son might have some strange memories regarding his upbringing. But MM Sr. as a childbeater. Nope. Don't buy that one.

-K-M-
09-13-2006, 06:21 PM
Of course, Department H would have to have a little more depth... more like the pre-volume 1 Dep.H, in which it might have been ambiguous to an extent, but which nevertheless had sound reasons for it's actions.


Department H was HUGE in vol.2, check the alphanex to see just how indepth they were

kozzi24
09-13-2006, 09:55 PM
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I guess I am also one of the few that liked (the basic idea of) both Major Mapleleaf Sr. and Major Mapleleaf Jr. Them dudes got issues that need resolving, and stories to be told.

I really don't buy that MM Sr. was a childbeater. I might buy that contemporary notions of childcare and discipline might run counter to some of those held by our culture back in the 40's. And I also buy that an "ill-favoured" son might have some strange memories regarding his upbringing. But MM Sr. as a childbeater. Nope. Don't buy that one.

I'm in complete agreement with you here, 'Surge. To me, the line between discipline and abuse was not crossed because Sr's entrance into the scene included dialogue, "what have I told you about nosing through other people's things?" or to that effect. Obviously those time outs and corner time for Jr's prior invasions of privacy didn't correct the problem...time for a smack. Sr. also was not shown to be lost in rage and slapping both kids around...just the offender.

Ahab
09-13-2006, 10:42 PM
Forgive me,
But that's exactly what Steve Seagle told us.

I guess that I don't understand this comment. What does it matter if Seagle said the same thing? These are two different people. In a way, that's like not ever trusting someone that says that they love you because the last person that you dated made the same statement. Sorry to comment, but it seems a shame that some people are already judging Oeming before even giving him a chance. I'm not saying that you are, Mik, but there seem to be a lot of comments to that effect. I just don't understand it.

Powersurge
09-14-2006, 02:43 AM
I'm in complete agreement with you here, 'Surge. To me, the line between discipline and abuse was not crossed because Sr's entrance into the scene included dialogue, "what have I told you about nosing through other people's things?" or to that effect. Obviously those time outs and corner time for Jr's prior invasions of privacy didn't correct the problem...time for a smack. Sr. also was not shown to be lost in rage and slapping both kids around...just the offender.

It's nice to know someone feels as I do on this issue Kozzi24.

And not only what you say above, but I am unaware (at least in my ignorance) of any testimony to the fact that Sr. beat Jr. other than the *allusion* made in Jr.'s memory. A memory born in the mind of a frightened child that had been caught redhanded doing what he knew was wrong.

Of course, that still leaves MM Senior behaving very unheroically in his debute issue. It's hard to believe that a renowned heroes of firm values and great conviction, probably comparable to Captain America, could sink so low as to seek to take the life of a baby, just cause it was getting the attention his eldest son never got while dying of AIDS.

I guess one could say that he was wshed up and depressed, but he certainly didn't look all that washed. In facy, physically, he still looked very impressive. And mentally, one would imagine a hero of his calibre from his generation would be made of firmer stuff.

Maybe a better angle to loop-hole Sr. out of the cast as a baby-killer is somekind of side-effect of the supposedly experiment that tuirned him nito a superhuman. Yeah, thats it... a side-effect drove him into his deep depression and unbalanced his thinking for a time. He better get that checked. 8) :wink:

Le Messor
09-14-2006, 06:19 AM
Forgive me,
But that's exactly what Steve Seagle told us.
I guess that I don't understand this comment. That's like not ever trusting someone that says that they love you because the last person that you dated made the same statement.

*sigh* That, too, sounds like me. I don't trust.
Lobdell made the same promise, too, btw. :roll:


It's up to us to keep it going. Give Mr. Oeming the time and patience and we'll see our favorites back. Give up on the book after ish 3 because there's no Sasquatch and well, I doubt you'd ever see him again. Omega = last chance people! 8)

Wow! And Del just got through telling me he couldn't see where anybody was telling us we Alpha Flight fans had an obligation to Omega Flight. 8)

The last chance? Wasn't v3 that?
And v2 before it?

I seem to remember being told so. :roll:

- Le Messor
"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me seven times, shame on me."
- Futurama

Northcott
09-14-2006, 02:55 PM
Are we still on this damned merry-go-round?

It boils down to this for me: the creative team is known for putting out appealing, character-driven, quality stories. Is there a chance they'll fumble the ball? Sure. Nobody hits 'em out of the park every time, it's a fact of life. But of this I'm pretty damned sure: these guys will bust their rears to make this the best story they can tell. They may fail, but they won't treat it like a joke or some kind of unimportant side project. We'll see real effort and heart in this project.

That's as much as you can ask from any creative team.

Guardian
09-14-2006, 03:58 PM
For me to get it to work I did this: I have a photobucket account. So I found an image I liked of the internet and saved it to my computer. I went to my photobucket account and uploaded it to my account. Then it gave me an image url (among others) off my image. I then cut the url off of photobucket, went to my AF profile and pasted it into my signature. And it worked.

Woohoo! Thanks dude, much appreciated! 8)

No worries man. Glad I could help. :D

Phil
09-14-2006, 04:45 PM
Kolins: I haven’t read all the 90’s stuff, but I’ve read the Byrne stuff a million times. Alpha Flight 1 – 28, X-men 109, 120,121, 139 & 140 are my Alpha Flight bible.

=D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

DMK
09-14-2006, 06:27 PM
I've been with Alpha a long time now... 1983, to be precise. I love the Byrne run wholeheartedly, and have gotten into knock-down drag-em-out fights with people (Ed, was that you?) over whether or not Byrne doomed the team by the end of the run. :) I was excited by v2, and even somewhat excited by v3, as I felt that Lobdell's run on Alpha v1 was pretty darn good.

I'm not worried that the word from MAO is pretty much the same as the word from Steve Seagle. Seagle did, indeed, bring things more towards the original Alpha as things moved forward. His pacing is something we can argue about, definitely... but he was bringing things forward.

It's going to be nice to have a Canadian presence in the super-hero world again. From what I've heard, these guys (Oeming & Kolins) have a lot of talent. Omega may not be Alpha... but I have a lot of hope that they'll be decent successors.

Northcott
09-14-2006, 08:32 PM
I love the Byrne run wholeheartedly, and have gotten into knock-down drag-em-out fights with people (Ed, was that you?) ...

BWAH-HA-HA! Probably. :) But if I recall correctly, it remained quite civil.

Ahab
09-14-2006, 11:04 PM
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Lobdell made the same promise, too, btw. :roll:
- Le Messor
"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me seven times, shame on me."
- Futurama

I think both of these guys honestly had intentions of bringing back the glory of the originals at some point. It's just unfortunate that the way that they went about it didn't enable them to gain enough of a fan following to allow them the opportunity to succeed. I guess that the same argument could be used for this new attempt, but at least they have been given another attempt. If Marvel immediately shot down all Alpha pitches that instantly involved the original team, this may very well be the only way that they can be brought back. I guess only time will tell if the third time is truly the charm...

Le Messor
09-15-2006, 05:03 AM
I should take the time here to say I love that Snowbird picture.

I don't like the headband on her in bird form, it just doesn't work for me.
But this guy can draw. And, he draws like he knows what an owl actually looks like. (So many artists just draw 'a bird' without reference to species or geography.) New actor for Snowbird: Hedwig! :wink:

I hated the Nickleodeon style of the cartoonists they got for the last two volumes, but I like Kollins' style on this drawing. (Can't tell enough from the other one.)

- Le Messor
"An ill-chosen word is the fool's messenger."

Ottawa Renegade
11-19-2006, 10:57 PM
Well, sorry to bump an old thread, but...

I'm likely in the minority, but I'm now leaning towards hoping that the death of the original members was legit. Too many parts of Alpha flight were goofed and I've reached the point where I didn't think it could really be cleaned up. The continuity is a mess, and continuity's very important to me.

So blow it up and rebuild it, even if a lot of it is from scratch.

This goes against what I used to argue in volume three. Maybe it's just the different name now (I recall posting "if it's all new and all different, then don't call it Alpha Flight) or maybe I've just given up on the idea that Alpha Flight as I want it can ever exist anymore. This isn't claiming to be Alpha Flight so I'm not expecting it to be.

I'm hoping that Mr Oeming does for this team Omega Flight what Geoff Johns did for JSA. Take a bunch of messed up characters and re-energize them with (in no particular order)...

a) New versions of older characters (Mr Terrific, Dr. Midnite).
b) Relatives of the originals (Hourman)
c) New blood (Captain Marvel)
d) Originals (Green Lantern, Flash, Wildcat)

Those are pretty well the only types you can have, I think.

To me, the trick is in the ratio. Right now, it looks a little heavy in the "new blood" department. Still, I'm giving it a shot and hoping for the best. Characters like Dr Fate and Hawkman were well restored while still paying tribute to their convoluted history. I'm hoping that the same is done with a significant portion of Alpha's past while building something new as Omega. Looking forward to it. :D :D

Canucklehead
11-20-2006, 09:08 AM
Well, sorry to bump an old thread, but...

I'm likely in the minority, but I'm now leaning towards hoping that the death of the original members was legit. Too many parts of Alpha flight were goofed and I've reached the point where I didn't think it could really be cleaned up. The continuity is a mess, and continuity's very important to me.

So blow it up and rebuild it, even if a lot of it is from scratch.

I agree. There are many differences between v3 and what we know of this new series. V3 was promoted as a "funny" book from the begining. Oh it was a joke alright. Lobdell had stated that even though the team was new, he would bring the originals back, when really we wanted them from the start. We waited through 6 months and 6 decompressed issued to find that they were all alive and well!!!... yet all going away into space... They were alive and available but he wasn't using them! Making a joke of what was left.

With Alpha now killed off panel, we don't know who's dead and who's alive. I think we're all prepared now for all but a few to be dead. The fact that they are dead brings more acceptance, at least for me, for new characters. Puck isn't in space, he's dead. He wasn't put aside so a Dudley Do-Right clone could be used instead, he's dead. Ok, well that's too bad, show some remourse in the book and move on. Don't explain his whole convoluted history, don't bring up Razzar, just give him a little tribute for the good times and honour him.

At least this time the roster that is replacing Alpha isn't a bunch of nobodies that no one cares about. Each character has it's own history (albeit less convoluted) and their own fans. I think that fact, plus such a great writer in Oeming will be enough for sales to finally get us past that 12-20 issue hump.

I'm probably in the minority here, but I'd much rather Sasquatch, who is my favorite character, be martyred then be humiliated by changing sexes again.

8)

Snowsquatch
11-20-2006, 01:07 PM
I haven't read much of vol.2, or all of vol.1 (and none of vol.3 :-), but one the things that I really liked about it were the Epsilon troopers. It would have been nice to see them working in support of the heroes, perhaps being given a bit of space on their own, setting up a larger story, perhaps even being the central figures for an issue or two.
I liked the concept of the Epsilon Guard, too. They were a little over-designed, but generally a good idea.

I think that the EG should be re-imagined as the "secret service" for Alpha Flight and Dept H - guarding the headquarters, watching over their families, acting as pilots and drivers, and they would be available as story-line "phaser bait."

Canucklehead
11-20-2006, 01:36 PM
I think that the EG should be re-imagined as the "secret service" for Alpha Flight and Dept H - guarding the headquarters, watching over their families, acting as pilots and drivers, and they would be available as story-line "phaser bait."]

Well they're already wearing red. 8)

Le Messor
11-20-2006, 04:52 PM
At least this time the roster that is replacing Alpha isn't a bunch of nobodies that no one cares about. Each character has it's own history (albeit less convoluted)

Actually that's a disadvantage, for me.

Now I'm the one who'll have a hard time following stories; I don't think I've ever read a story with any of the new Flyers in it. 'cept Choosing Sides. And I might have a BRB back-up somewhere.
(Oeming could, conceivably, ignore the new characters' continuity for our sakes; but then, what's the point of having them?)

- Le Messor
"I know the difference,
Between myself and my reflection.
I just can't help but to wonder,
Which of us do you love?"
- Evanescence

RolandT
11-21-2006, 07:59 PM
I don't mind so much the reboot, but it would be nice to know who they want alive and dead. I think they'll maybe rethink who is dead and maybe only one or two will be that way. However, if they go with a revenge or something theme in OF then most would be dead.

Maybe that Civil War: initiative will speak to that and all. How they get togethjer, why OF is OF and not AF, why they are short of personnel (for good reason, not lame).

Banshee
11-22-2006, 10:16 AM
Ottawa renegade said:

a) New versions of older characters (Mr Terrific, Dr. Midnite).
b) Relatives of the originals (Hourman)
c) New blood (Captain Marvel)
d) Originals (Green Lantern, Flash, Wildcat)

I couldn't agree more. JSA was one of my favourite books and I can't wait for the new series(why they had to stop it is beyond me!!).

Ottawa Renegade
11-24-2006, 09:51 AM
Ottawa renegade said:

a) New versions of older characters (Mr Terrific, Dr. Midnite).
b) Relatives of the originals (Hourman)
c) New blood (Captain Marvel)
d) Originals (Green Lantern, Flash, Wildcat)

I couldn't agree more. JSA was one of my favourite books and I can't wait for the new series(why they had to stop it is beyond me!!).

I never did see a stated reason for that, but I don't search for comic news all that much. If you ever come across one, let me know, because it didn't make sense to me either. And the way the series ended didn't really give a satisfying storyline reason either.

I just assumed that Johns got overloaded.