Omega Flight Number Two Cover [Spoilers?]

[Corvus]

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Written by MICHAEL OEMING
Pencils and Cover by SCOTT KOLINS
As super-villains flood the Canadian border, Omega Flight begins to cement its team of heroes. A new character is added to the ranks as U.S. Agent saves Toronto from the powerful and beautiful (well, powerful anyway…) Daisy!
32 PGS./Rated T+ …$2.99

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[-K-M-]

New character added to the ranks of Omega Flight? and Daisy? never heard of her and I love obscure characters.

[Obsidian3d]

Interesting idea for a cover, but I have to say I'm pretty underwhelmed with that one. It just doesn't scream "BUY ME".

[-K-M-]

For one it's pretty original, so right there that strikes me as a "buy cover" also I'm sure it will look incredible with the Omega Flight logo and other jazz as well.

[SmurfInABlender]

I like it honestly, it is simple and that is the beauty of marketing.. simplicity sells.. Clutter too much and it looks complicated, but the simplicity looks amazing it sounds really interesting... blarg.. i can't wait till april

[Mokole]

Why does Mr. Kolins always show Guardian as being on fire? I don't recall any other artist ever showing that, smoking gun, fire, whatever, look. Is it a sign that the guy wearing the suit is overloaded with energy and constantly smokes or bleeds of energy because he can't control it at all, ever? Or is it supposed to show that the suit is so poweful that it screams energy??

Daisy, as in Daisy Johnson of SHIELD? That's the only Daisy I can find.

[SephirothsKiller]

Is it just me or is the solicitation made towards... Making OF seem jokey? Humorous? V3-esque????? Marvel could break OF if they screw up the solicits on this one.

[Corvus]

For one it's pretty original, so right there that strikes me as a "buy cover" also I'm sure it will look incredible with the Omega Flight logo and other jazz as well.

Its a very "murder mystery novel" sort of look for the cover.

[SmurfInABlender]

Is it just me or is the solicitation made towards... Making OF seem jokey? Humorous? V3-esque????? Marvel could break OF if they screw up the solicits on this one.

They tend to put jokish solicits on alot of spiderman titles too.. they just get bored, I really don't think it is a problem

As for his suit being smokey... I think it is simply a new artstyle with no real reason, we are just thinking to much into it. In a more modern art style with alot more details, you can't expect the zig-zag aura to surround Guardian anymore, it just doesn't fit with the rest of the art style.

[Mokole]

Is it just me or is the solicitation made towards... Making OF seem jokey? Humorous? V3-esque????? Marvel could break OF if they screw up the solicits on this one.

The solicit bothers me the same way. Maybe Mr. Oeming or Kolins can clear that up. If it turns out anything like v3 I'll never buy a Marvel comic again. And I'm a man who knows the meaning of forever, believe me.

A jokebook or Guardian not being Canadian... then Marvel hate mail flows freely. :evil:

I doubt Mr. Oeming is going to make Guardian a pointless character (a foreigner) and I doubt he's going after the Lobdell audience. Nothing about his BRB series or Thor series or comments on OF suggest he's going to burn us. :shock:

[Mokole]

Is it just me or is the solicitation made towards... Making OF seem jokey? Humorous? V3-esque????? Marvel could break OF if they screw up the solicits on this one.

They tend to put jokish solicits on alot of spiderman titles too.. they just get bored, I really don't think it is a problem

As for his suit being smokey... I think it is simply a new artstyle with no real reason, we are just thinking to much into it. In a more modern art style with alot more details, you can't expect the zig-zag aura to surround Guardian anymore, it just doesn't fit with the rest of the art style.

Good points. :)

[Mokole]

New character added to the ranks of Omega Flight? and Daisy? never heard of her and I love obscure characters.

Boy, three in a row...

I opened a few windows to check other boards now and Doug at members.boardhost guesses that maybe the new one joining is Guardian, maybe, or that "whoever" Guardian is shows up in #2 permanantly to be revealed as "whoever".

[Corvus]

I'm surprised no one's commented on the "Super villains flooding towards the Canadian border" bit yet. That sounds like a clue about what the plot of the series will be about.

I think we might be jumping to conclusions about the series being jokey because of the solicit. I can understand the sensitivity though. Oeming's presence on this board surely has made him aware that anything as goofy as the last series will be received very poorly by the core fans.

[Flightpath07]

The cover looks good, IMHO.
I agree, it'll look better yet with the OF logo, etcetera, added.

And I, too, think that the hero added to the Omega ranks in OF 2 is "Guardian." Perhaps that is when he first shows up (or more likely in the last page of OF issue 1)...
By the way, anybody figured out yet how a "mysteriosu Guardian whom nobody seems to know who he is" shows up, when Walter Langkowski has the Guardian suit in the issue one preview pics we have seen? Anything we can figure out from that knowledge, or is it all still guesswork for us ?

[varo]

i think you guys are reading to much into the solicits. i just read all of them for the month, and they all seem very tongue in cheek. the mighty avengers one is worse than the omega flight one by far. actually most of them are pretty corny.

[Captain Primate]

I love the cover - very dramatic. I think the character art looks a tad weak. However, the overall composition of the cover is striking...and I think will do a lot to attract attention when its sitting on comic book shelves.

I have to admit, I felt a little unsure with the whole "USAgent saves TO" thing. I'm still worried about the book tending towards a "Americans saving Canadians" theme. Though only time will tell.

[SmurfInABlender]

I really don't think it will, I mean yeah U.S. Agent is probably one of the biggest draws for new readers, but I don't think it will be a focus on Americans saving Canadians, i think the new Guardian will really stand strong.

[Snowsquatch]

Why does Mr. Kolins always show Guardian as being on fire? I don't recall any other artist ever showing that, smoking gun, fire, whatever, look.
Because it's really Northstar. :wink:

I love this cover.

[Le Messor]

Daisy could be a hurricane. Okay, that's a stretch, but it's not unpossible.
Or Daisy Berkowitz, from the band Marilyn Manson. Okay, that's a real stretch.

The cover tells me nothing; it's just a picture of the team. Would it make me want to buy the issue? Doubt it. It's just a team shot, and if I wasn't already interested in the characters, that wouldn't fill me with intrigue.
Would I notice and remember it? Likely--unless it's part of a series of similar covers, as Marvel does from time to time. (I still remember Oeming's Powers cut-out cover, and I've never read an issue.) It is striking, and nicely done.

- Le Messor
"Doesn't that just make you go 'Ooo'?"
- Buffy[/i]

[Mokole]

I figure the "who Guardian is" and the tone of the book will determine very early if Fight for the Flight will last beyong issue #2.

If Guardian is American, especially the Mailman, rename the book Northern Avengers and add Thunderbolts to the team. I'll drop it right away. Guardian must be Canadian, I'm picky about that!

If the book is Lobdellish... same result.

[Guardian]

Interesting cover. I like it a lot. Though the Alpha characters are the big draw, it's great to see the U.S. Agent gettin' some spotlight. And it great to see him possibly get written with respect.

[PWalk]

I like it. It captures the eye and makes the viewer want to get closer to check it out. Hell if it sells 5 more copies based on that alone then it worked.

Well done.

[Canucklehead]

Very nice. Very eye catching. It'll stand out from the generic covers we've been seeing that past x amount of years. 8)

[SephirothsKiller]

Its a very nice cover. The white and red covers we've seen so far are awesome. Hopefully people will instinctively buy them because of the amount of white on the cover. (The "White on a Marvel cover? It must be worth money!" Response.)


Of course nothing beats the old school covers that have speech bubbles on them.


I'm also sortof worried it could be an Americans save Canada deal, but I doubt it would be. (Worst case scenario: Talisman needs to be saved by the big strong USAgent. That could be construed as Sexist/Racist and Nationalist all at the same time.)

On second thought, I would love for that to happen. Oh yes. It would appeal to my caustic side.

[Phil]

Statistically speaking, mostly white covers tend to sell badly because the get dirty easily.

[SephirothsKiller]

Tell that to Ultimate Spiderman.

[-K-M-]

Sadly the Guardian on fire reminds me of the Collective...it very well could be Mike the Mail Man :(

[Corvus]

I hope not. Besides, I thought I read somewhere around this board that someone was told face to face by Oeming that it wouldn't be him? Though of course, it could be a swerve I guess.

I'm thinking its a new Guardian suit with a new set of powers.

[Ahab]

Has anyone considered that the new member may just be that - a NEW member? For one thing, we know that Oeming had to change issue #2. And even if that wasn't part of the change, we can't be sure that he hasn't held information back from us just to surprise us...

[syvalois]

Statistically speaking, mostly white covers tend to sell badly because the get dirty easily.

Damn ! can't read my favorite comic with Doritos like I like to do !

[syvalois]

personnally, I like the concept of that cover. Feel a little bit like issue 12 but without doing it again. it's been done enough times and to see that kind of cover only on issue 2 of a limited serie,I think would suck. But I don't think it's an issue 12 story in this case.

I like the concept, but there is something bothering me with the characters, Is it the way Talisman is drawn, I don't know. But I definitly like the concept.

As for who is in the Gardian suit, I will tell you what I think once I've seen it in the comic. I don't think it's worth taking pepto bismol over this subject.

[RatCat]

Personally I love the cover. I think it's striking.

As for the new member... well Walter isn't on the front of #1 is he? Maybe that's just the issue he joins.

[Corvus]

Has anyone considered that the new member may just be that - a NEW member? For one thing, we know that Oeming had to change issue #2. And even if that wasn't part of the change, we can't be sure that he hasn't held information back from us just to surprise us...

Let the speculation begin!

[SmurfInABlender]

That is the one thing that is lacking in this team.. it is all a bunch of bunched together, already established heroes.. and don't get me wrong it is nice and a promising team and we all know we'd have this over all the "new" characters introduced by lobdell.. but still.. You look at DC comics and 90% of their comics are characters who have been around sense the 40's, but you look at Marvel and you have a ton of new characters that are always being created, and so creatively aswell. I think that a new character would be nice to the team, even all the X-men spin offs have new characters.. maybe thats just it, a NEW character is comming in, once the team is established, bring in a new character.. then again that is more suiting for a series rather then a MINI series where you really wouldn't have time to develope the character...

Oh blast I give up!

[Mokole]

I sort of agree. We've got Arachne, who used to have her own Spider-Woman (hasn't that concept been beaten to death) book and was in Force Works. USAgent, who was in Captain America, was Captain America, was a Defender, was in Force Works, who knows what else. Sasquatch of Alpha Flight fame. Talisman, the one true character who hasn't been front and center since her creation (I mean always front and center, she was a Betan for a while and not in the book lots, hasn't been in a book for years). Now Guardian.

Guardian could be a new character (Say Laurentian MacDonald, who knows), or Wild Child, or Mac Hudson, or Flex, or God-Forbid Mailman Mike (another reason it's not him, besides the idiocy, the fact he's not Canadian, and lack of ability in every, is that Guardian is drawn pumped, muscular), or Feedback. Could be a character who has had reasonable amounts of facetime, some, or virtually none, or none.

[SmurfInABlender]

flex wouldn't work in my opinion.. I still think Wild child would work best though it would be cool to introduce an entirely new candien character for the guardian suit, like some one who stepped up to answer the call after the news of alpha flight's death.. it could be cool, or even a very small character from the past, not sure who exactly but it could be cool.. were there any little boys that alpha flight saved that might be grown up now? that would be tight

[Canucklehead]

flex wouldn't work in my opinion.. were there any little boys that alpha flight saved that might be grown up now? that would be tight

Like that kid they saved from Hull House, Flex? 8)

[SmurfInABlender]

....darn it.. i give up

[-K-M-]

I doubt it will be Flex or even Wild Child, I don't know who it could be though.

[Obsidian3d]

If it's not Mac I'm guessing it'll be a new character in the suit.

[Mokole]

Funny if it turned out to be Walter's long-forgotten son, stepping into the breach. :wink:

[SephirothsKiller]

were there any little boys that alpha flight saved that might be grown up now? that would be tight

Ermmm.... I think its only been like four years since AF first began according to teh sliding timeline. Not sure though. But this isn't that much time for a little boy to become a man unless aging is a power.

[SmurfInABlender]

sliding timeline? what is this you speak of?

[Obsidian3d]

Comic books don't take place in real-time. Often a single day will take several issues. So, time moves much more slowly in a comic book.

[SmurfInABlender]

I understand that but i figured it would eventually catch up, plus between Volume 1 and Volume two we know is the actual timeline of atleast 4 years, thats what Vindicator states, and I believe in one of the flashback scenes in like 61 or 62 of V1 that Mr. Jefferies refers to joining the team with Boches a couple years ago, which would have roughly been the time sense he joined in about the 30's

so I dunno, I mena I know its a sliding timeline but alpha flight still seems to take up quite a bit of time

[Canucklehead]

Not just comic time, but most entertainment timelines slide. A sitcom will have a baby born to add to the cast, next season the kid is 5. Or worse in soap operas. A kid is a young teen while a baby is born. They both disapear for awhile, then they suddenly come back the same age.

I collect Spider-Man and he's been around 10 or so years Marvel time. I remember his first fight with the Lizard. Conners son was just a kid, then each appearance after he'd get a bit older. In the 90s he was a teen. Didn't hear from him since then, comes back last year as a kid again.

I wouldn't mind if it was a kid they rescued or appeared earlier... just as long as it's not the Hudson baby, all grown up and recently returned from a sex-change operation. 8)

[Le Messor]

Aurora rescued a little boy from Ranaq the Ravager, in the Thing team up.

Officially, I believe Marvel's policy is it's always seven years since the FF's flight.

If they didn't keep up with technology and politics, that'd actually work. Consider: If each issue takes a day (that's a figure I just made up, but it kind of works; how long per adventure? ), then three monthly hundred issues would be twenty-five years our time, but less than one their time.

But, of course, if within the comics Nixon is president, then Reagan, then Bush, then Bush (Agh!), you've got to wonder...

- Le Messor
"Consistency is not really a human trait."
- Maude, Harold & Maude

[Ahab]

Sadly the Guardian on fire reminds me of the Collective...it very well could be Mike the Mail Man :(

You guys really need to start thinking outside of the box. Clearly this is not fire that you are seeing. It is odor!
Think about it. Guardian was half-cyborg. Killed by the Collective, his cybernetic portions are still alive while his organic body decays... :D

[mreeez]

Sadly the Guardian on fire reminds me of the Collective...it very well could be Mike the Mail Man :(

You guys really need to start thinking outside of the box. Clearly this is not fire that you are seeing. It is odor!
Think about it. Guardian was half-cyborg. Killed by the Collective, his cybernetic portions are still alive while his organic body decays... :D

I think all the smoking power coming from Guardian is meant to make us think it's that Postman joker. I am hoping it is Mac and that the encounter with the Collective left some residual power in/on him.

[SmurfInABlender]

I still think it is the suit's power.. personally

[Guardian]

Sadly the Guardian on fire reminds me of the Collective...it very well could be Mike the Mail Man :(

You guys really need to start thinking outside of the box. Clearly this is not fire that you are seeing. It is odor!
Think about it. Guardian was half-cyborg. Killed by the Collective, his cybernetic portions are still alive while his organic body decays... :D

I think all the smoking power coming from Guardian is meant to make us think it's that Postman joker. I am hoping it is Mac and that the encounter with the Collective left some residual power in/on him.

I like that idea.

[SmurfInABlender]

I might be the only one who is sick of mac's constant returns.. I mean I am much more a Heather fan then Mac fan.. I mean Mac was cool and all but you have to admit he never really had alot of deapth and most of the deapth he has was created after he died

[mreeez]

I mean Mac was cool and all but you have to admit he never really had alot of deapth and most of the deapth he has was created after he died

This is exactly why I hope Mac is in the book. We never got a chance to see much of his character. When he did come back there was the whole cyborg thing that affected who he was/is. With Heather, we know and have seen her character and how she deals with things such as adversity and the death of loved ones. We've not seen that with Mac and I would like to.

[SephirothsKiller]

Honestly, as much as I enjoyed AF as a whole I was never that fond of Heather. Mainly because of the Mantlo issues where I felt that she was handled as an obsessive supercontrolling leader who had to dominate the team's lives, and then I felt that she herself was setting a really bad example with the way she handled her relationship with Jeffries on the field. But Mac on the other hand was always on the ball. We may not have seen much of his true self, but those first twelve issues will always be the most magical for me.

[SmurfInABlender]

I love heather for the second twelve issues, I mean I see where you're comign from with mantlo the guy really screwed heather up esspecially around issue 50 or so... but before that, when she first took the team, even the begennign of her havign the suit.. she did amazing and her reasoning for it was great i liked her more as a behind the scenes leader though...

[MistressMerr]

Officially, I believe Marvel's policy is it's always seven years since the FF's flight.

Pretty sure in a recent issue of FF, the Thing mentioned it'd been 13.

Which works for me, because I've always gone with an approximate 3:1 time ratio and that's not too far off of what it'd be my way. So Alpha Flight #1 would be 6 years ago, for example.

[Banshee]

Nice cover.

[SmurfInABlender]

Officially, I believe Marvel's policy is it's always seven years since the FF's flight.

Pretty sure in a recent issue of FF, the Thing mentioned it'd been 13.

Which works for me, because I've always gone with an approximate 3:1 time ratio and that's not too far off of what it'd be my way. So Alpha Flight #1 would be 6 years ago, for example.

Now THAT I can buy... makes alot of sense, i can beleive that Alpha flight was six years ago, though I'd put vol. 2 and three back to back, volume two being a few months and vol. 3 being a few..days?

I'm going to follow the 3:1 policy from now on lol

[kozzi24]

Traditionally, Marvel time was on a 3:1 ratio. Claremont was excellent with this during his original run on Uncanny, particularly with Kitty's aging.

The sliding time plays with past history in further compressing the ration to keep the characters from being aged too much. Kind of while current stories might still be written as a 3 to 1 ratio, in ten years those same stories will be treated as a 7:1 ratio, and will further compress time gaps depicted, such as the "six months later" when the smaller x-titles were taken over by Warren Ellis(?).

If you look at Julie Power now being around 18 in Runaways, AF V1#1 must have been around six years ago.