Preview of Wolverine #54: things get lamer

[Legerd]

Here's a link to a preview of Wolverine #54 SPOILER ALERT:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=10606

[-K-M-]

Wild Child fought in WW2? What the hell?

[Mokole]

Oh, the retconns!

[Ben]

#-o

[-K-M-]

Wild Child is a high-ranking Nazi as well? Errrrr?

[Obsidian3d]

I'm just gonna chalk it up to "weird". I have to admit though, Bianchi's work is pretty impressive in terms of the detailing and shading. I don't like his Sasquatch, but otherwise...very nice.

[Phil]

This has, has, has to be some drug induced dream... dear lord please....

[Theta_Ray_Bill]

Wow, Loeb has convinced me never to buy one of his comics again. As this is trash, complete, and utter trash.

[Canucklehead]

Wha?.... Jah?.... Bah? That's all there is to say about that. Also Sasquatch looks like a short Chewbacca/Werewolf.

I really don't mind them retconning Wild Child if it'll get him back in the A list. But if they did something like this with Sasquatch, heads would roll. Although I'm not liking this "Pack of Wolves" group thing. I think he's better off in that hole with Thunderball. wait wait... maybe Thunderball is somehow a metafore for Loeb... yeah.

[SephirothsKiller]

Oh noes.... Why Loeb, Why? Also, I find Cap's dialogue to be slightly off.... Maybe its just me but I remember him being more levelheaded.

This thing with Sasquatch though... It cannot stand. If this stuff plays out how it looks... It isn't even a retcon, its a continuity error!! A giant continuity error! How could the editors allow this!!?

Edit: I just asked MO what he thought of things over at his boards...

[Legerd]

This has, has, has to be some drug induced dream... dear lord please....

That's what I'm thinking (praying) it is.


Edit: I just asked MO what he thought of things over at his boards...

Let us know what he says SK.

[-K-M-]

I made the same thread awhile ago with no reply back from him

http://www.606studios.com/bendisboard/showthread.php?t=111582

[Legerd]

I read somewhere today that Quicksilver is running around with some crystals that can restore mutant powers, anyone know about that? It could explain why WC and co. have their powers back. Doesn't excuse the rest of that garbage, but explains the sudden remutancy.

[Canucklehead]

I read somewhere today that Quicksilver is running around with some crystals that can restore mutant powers, anyone know about that? It could explain why WC and co. have their powers back. Doesn't excuse the rest of that garbage, but explains the sudden remutancy.

He stole the crystals from the Inhumans in Son fo M and started the Silent War. From the limited pages I see here, it looks less like anything from Quicksilver, more to do with Wild Child being... sigh... not a mutant but a werewolf/clan member. Why Sasquatch is involved, I don't wanna know.

[Dfense75]

When I see Sasquatch in those pics...I can only think "Teen Wolf"...I am very very sad.

[Corvus]

Man, the more they try to explain Wolverine's backstory, the dumber it gets.

That Sasquatch is terrible looking too. Maybe Scott can send the artist some pointers on how to do a decent job of drawing him.

[Canucklehead]

That Sasquatch is terrible looking too. Maybe Scott can send the artist some pointers on how to do a decent job of drawing him.

Tip #1 for drawing Sasquatch: Don't.

[varo]

unless your last names is byrne, lee or kollins.

[PWalk]

That has to be the most rediculous comic I've seen in years. How did Chewbacca get in there?

[Le Messor]

That has to be the most rediculous comic I've seen in years. How did Chewbacca get in there?

He hitched a lift with a buzzer.
Buzzers are usually rich kids with nothing to do. They pick a planet that hasn't yet developed interstellar travel and 'buzz' them-land in a lonely field in front of some poor naive slob who nobody's ever gonna believe, and strut up and down in front of them with antennae on their heads, making 'beep beep' noises.

Rather childish, really.

[PWalk]

He hitched a lift with a buzzer.
Buzzers are usually rich kids with nothing to do. They pick a planet that hasn't yet developed interstellar travel and 'buzz' them-land in a lonely field in front of some poor naive slob who nobody's ever gonna believe, and strut up and down in front of them with antennae on their heads, making 'beep beep' noises.

Rather childish, really.

I find it highly "improbable" that occured. Maybe he was changed into a whale or a bowl of roses before he ended up in the comic? Maybe the mice got ahold of Loeb's brain to extract the answer? 42? What is six times seven? That would explain the wookie being in that book because it''s clearly not Sasquatch. Sasquatch did seven amazing things that morning and was rounding it off with breakfast at... 8)

[Garry/Al-Fan]

Gotta make it fit! Can't imagine it didn't happen!

It's "continuity"! :evil:

Somebody's making (or trying to turn) the Alpha Flight characters into cash-cows, popping them into books where they really don't belong. :evil: :evil:

[darc_light]

And I thought I was insane, but these new stories . . . I don't think they ret-conned Kyle so much as destroyed him totally :cry: I can see Sabretooth as a Nazi, but Kyle? How can they toss his entire history out the window? What about Wyre? The Secret Empire? Valerie Cooper and Teenage Kyle? Who is the idiot writing these stories? What's next, Wolvie is an alien? A god? Sasquatch is really Chewbacca? (Star Wars cross-over! Marvel did make a Star Trek cross-over once, I didn't read it.) I know, Wolvie is an avatar of Mephisto! That's it! I'll submit my idea to Marvel, if they'd buy that crap, they'd buy my stupid ideas!

But I still love "Herr" Gibney, even if he is an agent of evil! :lol: :wink: Seriously, I'll remember him as the old Kyle, not this trauma-induced nightmare of poor writing and horrific ret-conning....

Well, I guess it's time I moved to Manga, I just don't much like Marvel anymore. They killed off or ruined every good character they had: Kyle, Skin, X-Treme... :(

[DelBubs]

He hitched a lift with a buzzer.
Buzzers are usually rich kids with nothing to do. They pick a planet that hasn't yet developed interstellar travel and 'buzz' them-land in a lonely field in front of some poor naive slob who nobody's ever gonna believe, and strut up and down in front of them with antennae on their heads, making 'beep beep' noises.

Rather childish, really.

I find it highly "improbable" that occured. Maybe he was changed into a whale or a bowl of roses before he ended up in the comic? Maybe the mice got ahold of Loeb's brain to extract the answer? 42? What is six times seven? That would explain the wookie being in that book because it''s clearly not Sasquatch. Sasquatch did seven amazing things that morning and was rounding it off with breakfast at... 8)
Didn't the Golgafrinchans (sp) retcon the 6x7. Maybe it's them who are influencing Loeb :roll:

Considering in his origin in X-Factor Kyle Gibney was a normal youth who was mutated by the Secret Empire, then discovered he was a mutant and now he's Feral in WW2! :? Quick to the Milenium Falcon, we must use the 'Farce' to undo this retconned retcon.

[cmdrkoenig67]

At the moment, it's best to just take a breath and chalk it up to being a fever dream and nothing more.

Wolverine did fight in WWII...A couple of times with Cap A...Maybe his brain just added Wild Child in as a Nazi antagonist, because he was just recently attacked by Kyle?

Dana

Look at me...Being all level-headed...I must be getting old.

[darc_light]

Use the SCHWARTZ!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: It wouldn't make the storyline any less plausible . . . :P

[Le Messor]

Sasquatch is really Chewbacca? (Star Wars cross-over! Marvel did make a Star Trek cross-over once, I didn't read it.)

That's totally not true.

It was twice.
Three times if you count the prose novel.

- Le Messor
"Ludicrous speed! They've gone Plaid!"
- Spaceballs, mangled

[darc_light]

Do you reckon Kyle is half-fairy now? :lol:

"What's the matter Colonel Sanders, chicken?" Darth Helmet :lol: :lol:
I loved that movie...

Pizza the Hutt!!!

[Phil]

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Wildchild beats the hell out of Sasquatch.

[Canucklehead]

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Wildchild beats the hell out of Sasquatch.

Whhhhhhhhhhhhhhat? If Sasquatch was his normal size, he'd a just stepped on him. But because he's all Wookied-out, I bet Kyle was almost as tall as him. Am I right?

http://geocities.com/davidchenard99/sas.jpg

(I think I was generous with Kyle's height too)

[-K-M-]

What? please can you give details?

Why the HELL is Sasquatch Marvel's punching bag currently?

[-K-M-]

Sorry for the double post, but where is there a hairy man in the last panel? Don't tell me Sasquatch was in WW2 also

http://images.comicbookresources.com/previews/marvelcomics/wolverine/054/color/WOLV054-5.jpg

[Damien]

Since when did Walter start acting like Beast during his Avengers days?

[Theta_Ray_Bill]

Since Loeb inserted a very large object into his own rectum >.>

[Beta Ray Daz]

Only seen the previews but oh man.. that Sas is terrible! It's definately the lovechild of Chewie + Teenwolf haha

[Phil]

Sorry for the double post, but where is there a hairy man in the last panel? Don't tell me Sasquatch was in WW2 also

http://images.comicbookresources.com/previews/marvelcomics/wolverine/054/color/WOLV054-5.jpg

No, in the rest of the issue, in current time, near the end.

[DelBubs]

So Wildchild can now take out Sas while Sas more than held his own against Sabretooth? :lol: :lol: :lol: :?

[-K-M-]

Was it a bad beatdown?

[Phil]

So Wildchild can now take out Sas while Sas more than held his own against Sabretooth? :lol: :lol: :lol: :?
Apparantly Wildchild can take Sabretooth too, so it's all swings and roundabouts... :roll:

[Damien]

I wish I could pay someone to walk behind Jeph Loeb all day with a boombox that played "If I only had a brain" from The Wizard of Oz on a loop.

[Barnacle13]

Well I for one love Chewbacca and the Teen Wolf! I'm in no way endorsing Sasquatch looking like either, but my Sas probably wouldn't look a whole lot better. I'm more concerned with the defamation of character than the look. You can chalk a bad picture up to poor artwork, but once Sas becomes a feral wolflike being, how do you fix that? Let's vote right now....only Scott Kollins can draw Sas and only MAO can write Sas! All for say "Aye!" all opposed go say so at the Marvel forum!

[Phil]

(The irony being Loeb was the writer of Teen Wolf if I remember correctly...? :lol: )

[Dfense75]

(The irony being Loeb was the writer of Teen Wolf if I remember correctly...? :lol: )

That is BEYOND funny if thats the case.

[Legerd]

I wish I could pay someone to walk behind Jeph Loeb all day with a boombox that played "If I only had a brain" from The Wizard of Oz on a loop.

OMG, that's freakin' hilarious! Mind if I steal that idea for some of the people I work with? :lol:



Sorry for the double post, but where is there a hairy man in the last panel? Don't tell me Sasquatch was in WW2 also

http://images.comicbookresources.com/previews/marvelcomics/wolverine/054/color/WOLV054-5.jpg

No, in the rest of the issue, in current time, near the end.

Is there a link to a preview, or have you access to unreleased artwork? Either way, this is lame. Lame, lame, lame.

[Phil]

I read said issue last week via my first looks package.
It should be out tomorrow because of the holiday.

[darc_light]

I believe the writers think that we fans are all too stupid to notice that they've totally destroyed two Alpha Flight characters for the sake of some F-rate plotline that anybody who knows anything about these characters hates.

How can we express our supreme displeasure at these mind-blowingly stupid developements?

Maybe Mr. Loeb should go work for a title that more fits his so-called "skills", like The Inquirer (He's not good enough for The Weekly World News) Kyle was looking like WWN's Bat Boy for a while there . . . :P

[Dfense75]

I will say this. I am extremely suprised at Jeph Loebs Marvel work to date. I have read alot of his DC work and liked it alot. I can only assume that he does not have a large understanding of the Marvel Universe and its history. Fallen Son has not been that bad. Wolverine(and ill admit to not reading his solo title because I like him alot more in the team atmopsphere) has looked horrible from everything I have seen. Im willing to give him a chance here at Marvel but as soon as the Wolverine arc ends put him on something a little less relevant and let him find his "Marvel " legs.

[-K-M-]

Read it and what a load of garbage, horrible story and horrible depiction of Wild Child and of course Sasquatch

[Beta Ray Daz]

Let's vote right now....only Scott Kollins can draw Sas and only MAO can write Sas! All for say "Aye!" all opposed go say so at the Marvel forum!
Aye!

[SephirothsKiller]

Let's vote right now....only Scott Kollins can draw Sas and only MAO can write Sas! All for say "Aye!" all opposed go say so at the Marvel forum!

I personally thought that Silvestri did a rather good job.

[DelBubs]

Let's vote right now....only Scott Kollins can draw Sas and only MAO can write Sas! All for say "Aye!" all opposed go say so at the Marvel forum!

I personally thought that Silvestri did a rather good job.
I think you were suppose to say that at the Marvel Forums :? :shock: :roll: :lol:

[Le Messor]

Im willing to give him a chance here at Marvel but as soon as the Wolverine arc ends put him on something a little less relevant and let him find his "Marvel " legs.

Yeah, but if they do that, they'll put him on a new Alphega Flight book. :roll:

I didn't think The Long Hallowe'en was all that great. I was rolling my eyes about it getting the 'Absolute' treatment. (Actually, I was rolling my eyes predicting that. I think I found out it happened later that week.)

- Le Messor
Spike: "Oh. So that's all. You just come to pump me for information?"
Buffy: "What else would I want to pump you for? I really just said that, didn't I?"