Thunderbolts

[Dfense75]

I started reading Thunderbolts from issue #110. Warren Ellis is writing (one of my favorites) and Mike Deodato is drawing (Also one of my favorites). If you have not yet checked out this book. Please please do. It is probably one of my favorite books out ATM. Besides featuring some great D-List heroes like Jack Flag, Steel Spider, and American Eagle. Ellis and Deodato are crafting a great tale full of Epic action scenes, all kinds of impending back stabbing within the group, and alot of great villians reminding us of why it is so much fun to be bad. The current line up is Venom, Bullseye, Moonstone, Swordsman, Songbird, Radioactive Man, Penance(formerly Speedball) and Norman Osborn acting as the director of the team. http://marvel.com/boards/images/smiles/venom.gif

[DaVeO]

I totally agree with you man. Thunderbolts (and Omega Flight) got me picking up Marvel books again. Ellis is on his A-Game presenting us with dispicable or morally ambiguous characters. The internal conflicts, the c-list heroes and the questionable sanity of their director is all top notch. This is what Weapon X started out as but could not keep go the distance. Ellis and Deodato's run is a hat-trick in my book; great writer, great artist, great concept.

I'll give Civil War/The Initative this much, we've had some super concepts spin out form it. Cap's Death, Thunderbolts revisioned, Omega Flight.

[PWalk]

Penance(formerly Speedball)

Say what? This is a new revelation to me. I don't read the book but that is one hell of a twist.

[Dfense75]

Penance(formerly Speedball)

Say what? This is a new revelation to me. I don't read the book but that is one hell of a twist.

Yeah they changed him alot. Besides having spikes on the exterior of his armor. He has a spike for every person killed in the Stamford disaster in the INTERIOR of the armor that are constantly raking at his skin. His powers are now activated and charged up by pain. The more pain he feels the more power he generates. So far its been a bit unclear what he can channel the energy into. But so far we have seen energy blasts with devasting effect and some super strength as well.

[Dfense75]

Another interesting character is Swordsman. He was one of the 2 Fenris twins. The twins used to be able to make contact with one another and generate energy blasts. His sister died sometime ago and it devasted him. Since that time he has taken up the mantle of the newest Swordsman and is very good with a blade. Here is his interesting twist. He had a piece of his sisters skin dried out and wrapped his swords hilt with it. He now has the ability to generate the energy blasts through his sword the same way he and his sister did by making contact. Behind the scenes Norman Osborn is kinda blackmailing Swordsman. He has the ability to clone his sister for him but will not until his obligations are met.

[SephirothsKiller]

That sounds cool. Might have to start reading it.

[Beta Ray Daz]

yeah i'm gonna check it out too..

[Dfense75]

For anyone that does decide to pick this book up try and start from issue #110. They are up to issue # 114 ATM. Some other reading that might help is Civil War: Choosing Sides and the Civil War: The Initiative one shot. If you have trouble obtaining these back issues. Check out Midtowncomics.com. That place is my back issue heaven. Besides both those issues having Thunderbolts stories they have great Omega Flight stories in them as well. Enjoy.

[Beta Ray Daz]

i've just read #110-111, and I thoroughly enjoyed them! I picked up Frontline #10 to get more background on Penance but I might have to grab those other issues you've mentioned Dfense75 for more insight, thanks for the heads up guys!

[Dfense75]

My pleasure. Glad you enjoyed them :D

[DelBubs]

Some of the Thunderbolts also show up in Nova #2 on the last page. Looks like #3 is going to be a bit of a battle. Penance is amongst the T-Bolts who turn up, Robbie Baldwin use to play off well against Nova, gonna be interesting to see.

[Beta Ray Daz]

I've read #112-114 and it's getting even better! Also read Nova #1-2 this morning, not quite as good as the Annihilation run but still pretty good, can't wait to get my hands on T-Bolts #115 and Nova #3.. There will obviously be a decent run in with the two ex-new warriors, more Penance in both hopefully! So glad to be reading more new comics, previously only reading OF and Gunslinger, not really getting into civil war/initiative at all but now i'm pretty up to date!

[Dfense75]

Just read Nova#3. Quite a jump for the T-Bolts going from fighting D-List heroes to Nova. It was a fun issue and good to see them take on someone with a decent power level. I thought it was funny that they acknowledged he was a class 12 power lvl and not to be underestimated. Yet only 4 of the team showed up to stop him. The interaction between Nova and Penance wasnt more than a conversation. However it did give us another look into just how messed up poor Robbie Baldwin has become. His story of redemption should be a good one.

To this point the teamwork has not been there for the T-Bolts. To be honest thats one of the points I enjoy about this book. Seeing this team find itself and struggle to beat the weakest of heroes has been fun. It should make for some nice stories seeing this team come together. That is...unless Moonstone's plotting against Norman Osborn doesnt come to fruition first.

[Beta Ray Daz]

Yeah, where was Songbird? I'm assuming Bullseye was just waiting inside Zeus for the heads up to come and play but she was no where to be seen.. Looking forward to reading Desperate Measures, and see if Jenkins gives more of an insight in Penance.. Has anyone read the Zemo- Born better run? Good/Bad?

[Dfense75]

Just finished Zemo: Born Better. I really enjoyed it. Its basically a history of the Zemo lineage. The whole thing was done like the show Quantum Leap. It had Zemo time hopping through major events in his families history. This was basically my first expierience with Zemo. It was a good read and has me wanting to find some older Thunderbolts stories to see this guy in action. Plus, just seeing the way this guy works...you have the feeling hes gonna show up in the main T-Bolts book sometime in the future.

[Beta Ray Daz]

I might just have to pick up a few copies! Who's writing? Is it Ellis or someone else?

[Dfense75]

The creative team is Fabian Nicieza writing and Tom Grummet on art. Its basically the creative team that was on Thunderbolts before Ellis and Deodato took over. They are a good team and I think you will like it.

[Dfense75]

T-Bolts #117 Looks like fish brains are on the menu.

http://wizarduniverse.com/_images_/004847/tbolts117.jpg

[Beta Ray Daz]

T-Bolts #117 Looks like fish brains are on the menu.
Not good!
Thanks for the red hot tip mate, i've picked up Zemo #1-4, yet to read though!

[leonmallett]

T-Bolts #117 Looks like fish brains are on the menu.
Not good!
Thanks for the red hot tip mate, I've picked up Zemo #1-4, yet to read though!

I quite enjoyed zemo: Born Better. Like classic Thunderbolts (ie not at all like the Ellis version - which I also like). I hope Namor rips Venom a new one.

[PWalk]

This book is fantastic. I've had the ability to read issues 110-112 and I'm loving it.

Quick question, I saw a compilation of Thunderbolts #1-?? on a shelf. How good of a read are they?

[DaVeO]

The Kurt Busiek run? It was pretty good. I mean you won't have the shock factor at the end of issue #1 but it's still a fun old school team book, with the added bonus that they're fooling the world. Best thing to come out of Onslaught.

[Dfense75]

Also there is a Penance mini series coming out later this summer/early fall. Its written by Paul Jenkins.

[Dfense75]

**CORRECTIONS** the earlier cover i posted is Sub-Mariner #4 not T-Bolts #117. This is the real cover

http://wizarduniverse.com/_images_/004884/TBOLTS117.jpg

[leonmallett]

**CORRECTIONS** the earlier cover i posted is Sub-Mariner #4 not T-Bolts #117. This is the real cover

http://wizarduniverse.com/_images_/004884/TBOLTS117.jpg

Great cover. I am not usually a Deodato fan, but the art on this book has been tremendous. Is that his work?

[DelBubs]

That is one pucker cover, not sure who the artist is though. I really was not sure about this whole Speedball/Penance thing, but Ellis seems to have a handle on how Robbie would be feeling. I really hope it's all resolved soon and Speedball makes a triumphant return, although, maybe a little wiser.

[Dfense75]

Since issue #110 all the covers have been painted by Marko Djurdjevic. I love his style as well.

[Dfense75]

#115 Preview looks OFF THE HOOK!!
http://www.popcultureshock.com/index.php?p=42036

[Beta Ray Daz]

that cover for #117 looks amazing!! still yet to read Zemo, i'll get around to it soon *shakes fist at crappy supermarket that makes me work crappy long hours* Is #115 out this week?

[Dfense75]

that cover for #117 looks amazing!! still yet to read Zemo, i'll get around to it soon *shakes fist at crappy supermarket that makes me work crappy long hours* Is #115 out this week?

Yep #115 comes out tomorrow. I work long hours myself. 11 hour days and 55 hours a week. Luckily however. My comic store is a block from where I work. I pay for my books over the phone...than go and pick them up. Im back to my store in less than 15 minutes and it sure helps pass the time.

[Raven]

I only read Marvel books by Ellis.

It seems he is the only guy that doesn't kiss Bendis' ass or give a **** what he is doing in the control center, he just writes whatever the hell he wants.

[Dfense75]

**SPOILERS**#115 DID NOT DISSAPOINT. Where to start...Venom ate steel spiders arm, Penance beat his head against a wall in a manic depressive fit, and what to say about the American Eagle Vs. Bullseye fight except...WOW. Looks like Bullseye is the first T-Bolt to get replaced. Perhaps we see Taskmaster join.

http://wizarduniverse.com/_images_/004996/tBolts115-2.gif

[DaVeO]

Man, I can't decide which Initative title I'm digging more, Omega Flight or Thunderbolts. Both are just so well done. I would love to see them in a crossover or stand alone mini (like what Exiles and Excalibur are doing in October).

Thunderbolts may have got their man, but boy o boy did they pay for it. And the art! J.G. Jones is kicking butt. No Ellis T-Bolts for July (A Penance one-shot instead) but I don't mind. Keep Ellis and Jones together.

[Beta Ray Daz]

Any thoughts on the one-shot or #116?
I loved Bullseye's invisible bike in the one-shot and thought it interesting that everyone that wrote in to rap sheet in #116 was glad to see his ass get kicked & everyone also seems to really hate the characters, but i've also realised that most of the people that write in seem like really young kids. I'm enjoying the storyline especially seeing Penance's character develop & explore his powers as he's easily my favourite character. I was impressed with how he dealt with Osborne in the one-shot.
glad to have something to read now OF is over..

[Dfense75]

Man, I can't decide which Initative title I'm digging more, Omega Flight or Thunderbolts. Both are just so well done. I would love to see them in a crossover or stand alone mini (like what Exiles and Excalibur are doing in October).

Thunderbolts may have got their man, but boy o boy did they pay for it. And the art! J.G. Jones is kicking butt. No Ellis T-Bolts for July (A Penance one-shot instead) but I don't mind. Keep Ellis and Jones together.

JG Jones? the interior artist is Mike Deodato and the covers are painted my Marko Djurdjevic.

[Beta Ray Daz]

Man, I can't decide which Initative title I'm digging more, Omega Flight or Thunderbolts. Both are just so well done. I would love to see them in a crossover or stand alone mini (like what Exiles and Excalibur are doing in October).

Thunderbolts may have got their man, but boy o boy did they pay for it. And the art! J.G. Jones is kicking butt. No Ellis T-Bolts for July (A Penance one-shot instead) but I don't mind. Keep Ellis and Jones together.

JG Jones? the interior artist is Mike Deodato and the covers are painted my Marko Djurdjevic.

Der fred!

[Beta Ray Daz]

Has anyone picked up the Penance mini series?
My store didn't hold it on my standing order and it sold out when I went to pick up a copy :(

[DaVeO]

Man, I can't decide which Initative title I'm digging more, Omega Flight or Thunderbolts. Both are just so well done. I would love to see them in a crossover or stand alone mini (like what Exiles and Excalibur are doing in October).

Thunderbolts may have got their man, but boy o boy did they pay for it. And the art! J.G. Jones is kicking butt. No Ellis T-Bolts for July (A Penance one-shot instead) but I don't mind. Keep Ellis and Jones together.

JG Jones? the interior artist is Mike Deodato and the covers are painted my Marko Djurdjevic.

Whoops. Artist mix-up.

[Dfense75]

This book is continuing to be excellent. Since Civil War ended this has been consistantly my favorite book. Ellis and Deodato's run will end after their 12th issue. While Im very sad to see them go. They have laid the ground work for a great ongoing series. As yet it has not been announced who the new creative team will be.

[Guardian]

I keep wantin' to drop this book. But it's like a car wreck, it can't help but look.