No Alpha in the Near Future Confirmed

[Ahab]

Speaking of Canada, perhaps the most frequently asked question on the CUP O’ JOE megathread on the CBR boards is when it will be time to announce a new "Alpha Flight" series? Any chances of that happening this weekend?

Joe Quesada: Nope, sorry to say it won’t. However, if we were to have done it, Toronto would have been the place.

(NOT THAT THIS IS SURPRISING - aHAB)

[Mokole]

And once again, another year where Marvel gets no money or interest from me.

[Adam]

The panel confirmed this as well...


A Possible Alpha Flight return was hinted at by the next slide in Singh’s presentation. But, much to the dismay of the canuck crowd, the panelists were just having their fun.

However, Alpha Flight action figures are out there.

Still dead, though, sorry folks.

“We’re very aware of the passion people have for Alpha Flight and I think we all agree that’s it better we do a book when we have the right people involved than just putting out a book,” said Singh “I mean we could easily do ‘Dark Alpha Flight, right?’”

You know what, I'm actually ok with this.

Marvel's got a problem right now keeping books their more niche team books alive. Look at all the relaunches and uncertainty surrounding books like Agents of Altas, New Warriors, Captain Britain, etc. I'd rather Marvel figure out how to make a book at that level (which is where Alpha probably would be) survive before launching a new Flight book only to have it die on the vine after 12 issues.

...and that makes me wonder if there's just a different way to do a book like this nowadays. I rather like the model that John Arcudi and Mike Mignola are using for their B.P.R.D. series. It's for all intents and purposes an ongoing, but it's presented as a series of 6 issue mini series with a few month gap (if any) between the end of one and the start of the next. Or perhaps there's some way to do it digitally or as a backup in an existing book. I'd rather something that could have some longevity than another series that's doomed from the start.

[Flightpath07]

Speaking of Canada, perhaps the most frequently asked question on the CUP O’ JOE megathread on the CBR boards is when it will be time to announce a new "Alpha Flight" series? Any chances of that happening this weekend?

Joe Quesada: Nope, sorry to say it won’t. However, if we were to have done it, Toronto would have been the place.

(NOT THAT THIS IS SURPRISING - aHAB)

I agree, no surprise.

[Flightpath07]

Ignore this post. :oops:

[Legerd]

And once again, another year where Marvel gets no money or interest from me.

Ditto.

Am I wrong in believing that if Joe wanted a new book written, then as EIC he could mandate it?

[cmdrkoenig67]

Gasp! I'm possitively shocked by this news... :roll:

Legerd, You're entirely correct.

I personally believe Joe Q violently (due to letting them be slaughtered) dislikes/hates/despises Alpha Flight.

Dana

[cmdrkoenig67]

The panel confirmed this as well...


A Possible Alpha Flight return was hinted at by the next slide in Singh’s presentation. But, much to the dismay of the canuck crowd, the panelists were just having their fun.

However, Alpha Flight action figures are out there.

Still dead, though, sorry folks.

“We’re very aware of the passion people have for Alpha Flight and I think we all agree that’s it better we do a book when we have the right people involved than just putting out a book,” said Singh “I mean we could easily do ‘Dark Alpha Flight, right?’”

You know what, I'm actually ok with this.

Marvel's got a problem right now keeping books their more niche team books alive. Look at all the relaunches and uncertainty surrounding books like Agents of Altas, New Warriors, Captain Britain, etc. I'd rather Marvel figure out how to make a book at that level (which is where Alpha probably would be) survive before launching a new Flight book only to have it die on the vine after 12 issues.

Adam,

I don't believe Joe Q wants Alpha to survive (in any form)...

Alpha Flight was killed off in New Avengers (as we all well know)...The Internet fairly exploded with cries against their deaths from Alpha fans, retired/alienated fans (who absolutely hated volume 3) and from folks who weren't fans, but thought it was a horrible way to treat characters. Their deaths even made some non-fans interested in finding out who these Alpha Flight folks were. Interest was at it's highest in years...

Joe Q killed Omega Flight too...Before it's first issue even came out (cut from and ongoing to a five issue mini). The series sold 40,000 + for next few months, yet he didn't make it an ongoing...To me, it felt like Marvel (Joe) was saying "Here's a mini, now shut the hell up Alpha Fans"...

Call me paranoid (and maybe I am), but I feel Joe has been sabotaging AF...first with Volume 3, then with Omega Flight, then with the constant jokes at Alpha's expense at every convention...He's still laughing (apparently, the recent Con panel in Canada was in on the joke too). I feel they've been horribly disrespectful to Alpha fans, to their fans in general (even the fans of New Warriors have gone through a similar ordeal to ours)...

It's why I buy mostly one book from Marvel now (Guardians of the Galaxy, which I've been enjoying)...I buy an occasional X-Book that may feature Madison or Jean Paul, if they're appearance is quality (I may pick up the mini story with Aurora in Dark X-Men: Beginnings)...If the characters I like are in one panel, it's not worth $3.99...

I can't stand most of their books, I can't stand the way they've treated most of their characters and I really hate they way they've acted toward Alpha Flight fans at conventions.

Dana

[cmdrkoenig67]

I have to say this also...

I'm a bit disappointed in many of my fellow Alpha Flight fans...I've seen very few (from this board) make their voices heard in the "Bring Back Alpha Flight" threads at the Marvel boards, on Newsarama (the thread died from lack of posting and the change over to a new format...Nobody has created a new thread, so I just did) and elsewhere...I thank and commend those who have...Many have joined in at the Marvel thread...Legerd (who started the Marvel thread), Varo, Garry/Al-fan, Flightpath, Dfense and even think Ben did too, but how does it look to anybody when only the same four or five people keep those threads alive?

I also have to thank and commend folks who have created Alpha Flight and AF character Appreciation threads on other boards.

Some of you may have alternate names on other boards, but there isn't a lot of us posting in any of the threads I mentioned (there should be hundreds/thousands of us posting there!)...The Marvel thread is only 22 pages long...It's should be hundreds of pages with hundreds of voices!

The few of us who still post in those threads have done our best to keep those threads going (and on the first page of the forums), but we can't do it alone. Perhaps if more Alpha Fans actually showed that they cared and wanted the team back (at least on the Marvel boards), maybe Joe Q's mind could be changed, or at least let him know there is an actually large fanbase out there...I don't know what else to say...I apologize if I sound overly harsh, but I've found the last few years to be so frustrating as a fan of Alpha (I'm sure many of you have too).

Dana

If anybody feels like helping out, here are the links...

http://marvel.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=98826&postdays=&postorder=asc&start=0

http://newsarama.com/common/forums/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=9258

[Flightpath07]

Perhaps if more Alpha Fans actually showed that they cared and wanted the team back


Maybe it is time we organized a little better, and started our assault on Disney! Surely they must have some sort of website that we can attempt to over-flood with requests for Alpha Flight?

[Ahab]

I have to say this also...

I'm a bit disappointed in many of my fellow Alpha Flight fans...I've seen very few (from this board) make their voices heard in the "Bring Back Alpha Flight" threads at the Marvel boards, on Newsarama (the thread died from lack of posting and the change over to a new format...Nobody has created a new thread, so I just did) and elsewhere...I thank and commend those who have...Many have joined in at the Marvel thread...Legerd (who started the Marvel thread), Varo, Garry/Al-fan, Flightpath, Dfense and even think Ben did too, but how does it look to anybody when only the same four or five people keep those threads alive?

I also have to thank and commend folks who have created Alpha Flight and AF character Appreciation threads on other boards.

Some of you may have alternate names on other boards, but there isn't a lot of us posting in any of the threads I mentioned (there should be hundreds/thousands of us posting there!)...The Marvel thread is only 22 pages long...It's should be hundreds of pages with hundreds of voices!

The few of us who still post in those threads have done our best to keep those threads going (and on the first page of the forums), but we can't do it alone. Perhaps if more Alpha Fans actually showed that they cared and wanted the team back (at least on the Marvel boards), maybe Joe Q's mind could be changed, or at least let him know there is an actually large fanbase out there...I don't know what else to say...I apologize if I sound overly harsh, but I've found the last few years to be so frustrating as a fan of Alpha (I'm sure many of you have too).

Dana

If anybody feels like helping out, here are the links...

http://marvel.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=98826&postdays=&postorder=asc&start=0

http://newsarama.com/common/forums/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=9258

Maybe it's an indication of what the real fan support is out there. Yes, there are those of us that are passionate about Alpha Flight. But then again, we have other things that can easily detract from"the cause". Kids. The current economy and resulting stress. School. Whatever. That's not to say that we couldn't post, but sometimes it gets passed over for other things. It shouldn't be on just our shoulders to get things going, and if it really is necessary, maybe that is the true indication that there just isn't enough interest to support an AF book right now. Sadly.

[Adam]

Adam,

I don't believe Joe Q wants Alpha to survive (in any form)...

...

Call me paranoid (and maybe I am), but I feel Joe has been sabotaging AF...first with Volume 3, then with Omega Flight, then with the constant jokes at Alpha's expense at every convention...He's still laughing (apparently, the recent Con panel in Canada was in on the joke too). I feel they've been horribly disrespectful to Alpha fans, to their fans in general (even the fans of New Warriors have gone through a similar ordeal to ours)...

Dana I totally appreciate how passionate you are about this.

Now I know nothing of the man's motivations so I'm not going to speculate on what opinions Mr. Q may or may not hold. In fact I'm willing to accept that he made a lot of those decisions with the best intentions in mind for Marvel, however ill conceived they ended up being. I'm more willing to believe people are fallible than malicious I guess.

Even if Joey loved Alpha Flight I still believe they'd face the same problems as Agents of Atlas and Runaways, which are books Marvel's editorial are supposedly big fans of. Short of sticking them with a top drawer creative team that will draw in sales on name recognition alone, Marvel in the past few years haven't had a lot of luck making their fringe team books work in the market. I'd just hate to have to go through the disappointment of seeing another Alpha series start and die by issue 12. I want a plan for longevity.

Maybe Disney will be good for us in this matter. DC's corporate backing has allowed them to keep lower selling books alive where as Marvel's had to cut titles more aggressively. Maybe that will change.

[cmdrkoenig67]

Adam,

I don't believe Joe Q wants Alpha to survive (in any form)...

...

Call me paranoid (and maybe I am), but I feel Joe has been sabotaging AF...first with Volume 3, then with Omega Flight, then with the constant jokes at Alpha's expense at every convention...He's still laughing (apparently, the recent Con panel in Canada was in on the joke too). I feel they've been horribly disrespectful to Alpha fans, to their fans in general (even the fans of New Warriors have gone through a similar ordeal to ours)...

Dana I totally appreciate how passionate you are about this.

Now I know nothing of the man's motivations so I'm not going to speculate on what opinions Mr. Q may or may not hold. In fact I'm willing to accept that he made a lot of those decisions with the best intentions in mind for Marvel, however ill conceived they ended up being. I'm more willing to believe people are fallible than malicious I guess.

Even if Joey loved Alpha Flight I still believe they'd face the same problems as Agents of Atlas and Runaways, which are books Marvel's editorial are supposedly big fans of. Short of sticking them with a top drawer creative team that will draw in sales on name recognition alone, Marvel in the past few years haven't had a lot of luck making their fringe team books work in the market. I'd just hate to have to go through the disappointment of seeing another Alpha series start and die by issue 12. I want a plan for longevity.

Adam, I get your point about Marvel trying to make an Alpha Flight series that has a better possibility of succeeding, however....they have constantly tried to reinvent what Alpha flight is. I feel this is their biggest mistake (I'm not alone in this opinion)...Most fans want the original team reunited, Marvel execs/editorial has refused to do this with each volume, following Volume One. I consider 130+ issues a success, compared to 22 or 12. What I really don't get is...The largely successful Omega Flight mini was not renewed as a series, then largely ignored (save for showcasing the one character most everyone hated for killing Alpha Flight)? Why?



Maybe Disney will be good for us in this matter. DC's corporate backing has allowed them to keep lower selling books alive where as Marvel's had to cut titles more aggressively. Maybe that will change.

Which is why I made the suggestion of perhaps putting out a two or a few minis a year (and maybe an Annual?) at Newsarama. perhaps Disney will push Marvel to explore more international-flavored comics (Maybe Alpha Flight and Captain Britain MI13/Excalibur will get more chances or exposure?)...Disney seems to like to be inclusive internationally, right?

Dana

[mos_def]

maybe Quesada has a figure in the shadows telling him not to bring them back...Byrne?

I get mad when I see really bad issues printed by Marvel and Alpha getting no attention. There were 4 different one shots this month by Marvel. THough I want to pick up that Arkarus/ Vision jammy and Ghost Rider HEaven on Fire has been DOPE. Focus on the fans. Disney is good with that. I dont want to see Alphans in X-Men. X-Men has been really bad lately. I hated Utopia. I think Fraction sux.

[Flightpath07]

I agree. As far as I can see, X-Men has been spiralling downhill for a while. And, being that the X series are Marvel's biggest draws, you would have to think that they are getting nervous in their corporate office. I bet they have started to lose a lot of cash. Which, of course, leads us right into the acquisition by Disney.

Disney has money. I wonder if I could convince them to acquire the rights to Captain Canuck? With Mac dead and raised and dead and raised and dead again (did I miss any?), we have no real Canadian icons anymore in comics. And, I think it is time James STAYED dead. Heather coming back? I could live with that, as long as she stays out of "the suit" and concentrates on raising her child (and that child does not end up a mutant/serial killer/abducted by aliens). Puck coming back? Yep, as long as he comes back as the compressed, tumbling, one-liner-spouting bundle of fun that he used to be. Beyond that, leave 'em dead, i say.

But let the new Alpha be lead by Captain Canuck, Canada's greatest superhero...that'd be cool. He had the fighting skills and spirit of Captain America, with the detective skills of Batman, and he never lacke din courage or decision-making prowess.

I say, "Give us Captain Canuck in Alpha Flight!"

[cmdrkoenig67]

I agree. As far as I can see, X-Men has been spiralling downhill for a while. And, being that the X series are Marvel's biggest draws, you would have to think that they are getting nervous in their corporate office. I bet they have started to lose a lot of cash. Which, of course, leads us right into the acquisition by Disney.

Disney has money. I wonder if I could convince them to acquire the rights to Captain Canuck? With Mac dead and raised and dead and raised and dead again (did I miss any?), we have no real Canadian icons anymore in comics. And, I think it is time James STAYED dead. Heather coming back? I could live with that, as long as she stays out of "the suit" and concentrates on raising her child (and that child does not end up a mutant/serial killer/abducted by aliens). Puck coming back? Yep, as long as he comes back as the compressed, tumbling, one-liner-spouting bundle of fun that he used to be. Beyond that, leave 'em dead, i say.

But let the new Alpha be lead by Captain Canuck, Canada's greatest superhero...that'd be cool. He had the fighting skills and spirit of Captain America, with the detective skills of Batman, and he never lacke din courage or decision-making prowess.

I say, "Give us Captain Canuck in Alpha Flight!"

How could Heather and Mac's baby be possibly "normal"? Both parents exposed regularly to electromagnetic radiation, one parent was a cyborg (made that way by an alien race) and Heather was wearing the mystery geo suit for months before she got pregnant.

I'd like to see Heather be one of the survivors (always loved the character), there's nothing to suggest that Heather and any of the other Alphans that "died" via the Collective are actually "dead". For all we know, it could be revealed that Mac merely shut down, Heather and Puck ended up in comas for months or some other survival scenario, etc...Maybe even Walter placed them all in suspended animation somewhere hoping they could be revived?

Walter only made mention, that he was the only "survivor", that could be interpreted in a number of ways...If a future writer wanted to revive a few of them (or all of them).

Dana

[Adam]

I agree. As far as I can see, X-Men has been spiralling downhill for a while. And, being that the X series are Marvel's biggest draws, you would have to think that they are getting nervous in their corporate office. I bet they have started to lose a lot of cash. Which, of course, leads us right into the acquisition by Disney.

Disney has money. I wonder if I could convince them to acquire the rights to Captain Canuck? With Mac dead and raised and dead and raised and dead again (did I miss any?), we have no real Canadian icons anymore in comics. And, I think it is time James STAYED dead. Heather coming back? I could live with that, as long as she stays out of "the suit" and concentrates on raising her child (and that child does not end up a mutant/serial killer/abducted by aliens). Puck coming back? Yep, as long as he comes back as the compressed, tumbling, one-liner-spouting bundle of fun that he used to be. Beyond that, leave 'em dead, i say.

But let the new Alpha be lead by Captain Canuck, Canada's greatest superhero...that'd be cool. He had the fighting skills and spirit of Captain America, with the detective skills of Batman, and he never lacke din courage or decision-making prowess.

I say, "Give us Captain Canuck in Alpha Flight!"

Despite the quality of the X-Books these days, the Avengers line has pretty much supplanted them as the top sellers. Last I heard Marvel's publishing division is quite profitable.

That said, a crossover or team up with Captain Canuck would be awesome. I had a lot of fun with the recent CC hardcover. I can't wait for the next one.

[Flightpath07]

I had a lot of fun with the recent CC hardcover. I can't wait for the next one.

Yeah, just got mine two days ago. Loved it!

[mos_def]

I would bring them back sort of how the JLA did with Obsidian Age back in the day. Shaman casted a spell through the land (Manitou on JLA) and now they are wandering the spiritual plane for the right moment...maybe protected and guided by Narya's kid. The Great BEast can come (like AF vol1 #1) while hints are being left by Shaman and crew through Talisman. Canada has alot of spiritual connections throughout the series and would be a good out. I only write fanfics but thats how I would do it

[Le Messor]

I'm a bit disappointed in many of my fellow Alpha Flight fans...I've seen very few (from this board) make their voices heard in the "Bring Back Alpha Flight" threads at the Marvel boards, on Newsarama

The following is my excuses, and I'm stickin' to 'em:

1. I don't want to join any more fora. The most I ever did was four, then I got sick to death of two of them and quit; the other remaining one I almost never visit. This one is great and I love it! but I haven't liked others.

2. It is really difficult to type when cold. Actually, that has nothing to do with me not posting, but it'll explain any typos here, I hope. Kwijibo.

3. I'm not sure I want an Alpha Flight title right now. At least, I don't trust Marvel with the title, not after the last three burns. Omega Flight was a good series, but none of the other Alpha Flight relaunches had much of anything to do with Alpha Flight, other than a name and a Canadian setting. I don't want that again.

- Le Messor
"Selfishness must always be forgiven, you know, because there is no hope of a cure."
- Jane Austen

[Adam]

I would bring them back sort of how the JLA did with Obsidian Age back in the day. Shaman casted a spell through the land (Manitou on JLA) and now they are wandering the spiritual plane for the right moment...maybe protected and guided by Narya's kid. The Great BEast can come (like AF vol1 #1) while hints are being left by Shaman and crew through Talisman. Canada has alot of spiritual connections throughout the series and would be a good out. I only write fanfics but thats how I would do it

I had a very similar idea. I always thought a very clean way to hit the reset button would be for Shaman to have cast some sort of resurrection spell upon the team back in AF #1. The only catch is that they've all got to be dead before it kicks in, so the story would start with the deaths of whatever poor Alphan's are left alive, only to have the whole batch of them wake up together in the spirit realm for some quest back to the land of the living. Anyways...

[Mokole]

I figure they can easily put out a variety of good AF series, written by Van Lente, Torres, and many other interested writers. But the WILL to do it at Marvel Editorial is seriously lacking.

Another point, I know a girl named Quiji-Bo. Her Dad said the name came to him in a dream.

[mos_def]

I had a very similar idea. I always thought a very clean way to hit the reset button would be for Shaman to have cast some sort of resurrection spell upon the team back in AF #1. The only catch is that they've all got to be dead before it kicks in, so the story would start with the deaths of whatever poor Alphan's are left alive, only to have the whole batch of them wake up together in the spirit realm for some quest back to the land of the living. Anyways..

Makes sense. Youc an tie in why Walter was the lone survivor if you bring in the Great Beast into it. Then tie in Talisman since she has both the tiarra of power and the pouch. Hmm........I might do a short so Mokole isnt the only fanfic guy here[/quote]

[Flightpath07]

I had a very similar idea. I always thought a very clean way to hit the reset button would be for Shaman to have cast some sort of resurrection spell upon the team back in AF #1. The only catch is that they've all got to be dead before it kicks in, so the story would start with the deaths of whatever poor Alphan's are left alive, only to have the whole batch of them wake up together in the spirit realm for some quest back to the land of the living. Anyways...

This is interesting. But I immediately see a few problems with it.

First, if the spell was cast upon the team in AF # 1...who was on the team at this point? The truth is, Puck and Marina weren't really a part of Alpha then, were they? So, we would resurrect AF, minus those two?

Second, NO WAY do I want Mac brought back again. No way, no how. Been there, done that to death (pun intended).

By the way, on a side note...the more that I read the first volume of AF, the more that I am convinced that Sasquatch never was leadership material. In his Sassy form, he always had a tendency to over-react with rage and anger.
Making him the leader in Volume 3 (and in Omega), was a huge disservice to AF. Well, actually, AF Vol 3 was a huge disservice to AF regardless...

[cmdrkoenig67]

I would bring them back sort of how the JLA did with Obsidian Age back in the day. Shaman casted a spell through the land (Manitou on JLA) and now they are wandering the spiritual plane for the right moment...maybe protected and guided by Narya's kid. The Great BEast can come (like AF vol1 #1) while hints are being left by Shaman and crew through Talisman. Canada has alot of spiritual connections throughout the series and would be a good out. I only write fanfics but thats how I would do it

I had a very similar idea. I always thought a very clean way to hit the reset button would be for Shaman to have cast some sort of resurrection spell upon the team back in AF #1. The only catch is that they've all got to be dead before it kicks in, so the story would start with the deaths of whatever poor Alphan's are left alive, only to have the whole batch of them wake up together in the spirit realm for some quest back to the land of the living. Anyways...

The biggest problem with that is Shaman can't resurrect the dead....He doesn't have the power. Talisman, on the other hand does...Her father made mention of it (once or twice) in Volume One...She just didn't have the experience or the training to be able to do it.

I sometimes wonder if Michael Twoyoungmen was way out of his league when trying to train Elizabeth (after she first got her powers)...She had so much untapped potential, power that even he couldn't seem to tap into, when he temporarily became Talisman. I just don't think he had the proper training himself to be able to train/guide the Talisman.

Dana

[Adam]

I would bring them back sort of how the JLA did with Obsidian Age back in the day. Shaman casted a spell through the land (Manitou on JLA) and now they are wandering the spiritual plane for the right moment...maybe protected and guided by Narya's kid. The Great BEast can come (like AF vol1 #1) while hints are being left by Shaman and crew through Talisman. Canada has alot of spiritual connections throughout the series and would be a good out. I only write fanfics but thats how I would do it

I had a very similar idea. I always thought a very clean way to hit the reset button would be for Shaman to have cast some sort of resurrection spell upon the team back in AF #1. The only catch is that they've all got to be dead before it kicks in, so the story would start with the deaths of whatever poor Alphan's are left alive, only to have the whole batch of them wake up together in the spirit realm for some quest back to the land of the living. Anyways...

The biggest problem with that is Shaman can't resurrect the dead....He doesn't have the power. Talisman, on the other hand does...Her father made mention of it (once or twice) in Volume One...She just didn't have the experience or the training to be able to do it.

I sometimes wonder if Michael Twoyoungmen was way out of his league when trying to train Elizabeth (after she first got her powers)...She had so much untapped potential, power that even he couldn't seem to tap into, when he temporarily became Talisman. I just don't think he had the proper training himself to be able to train/guide the Talisman.

Dana

I think you're right about Shaman being out of his league, but I think the amount that he failed with Elizabeth proved that. I always saw it as a bit of a failure when HE became the Talisman. Maybe I just didn't like that character arc at all and I'm projecting that distaste onto it.

...and yeah, my resurrection idea has HUGE gaping holes in it. It's hardly something I've put more than 5 minutes of thought into. I think there just comes a point where the history of the characters is so buggered up that a cheapo reset button is the only way to get it back to a state that people want in short order. I mean you could fix it with a series of long retcons and whatnot, but I doubt future Alpha writers will ever have the luxury of time to do that. (and don't as me about my "Razer was just an elaborate ruse cooked up by Llan to screw with Judd -- EVERYTHING YOU KNOW IS WRONG!" story :) )

[mos_def]

He wouldnt have cast a spell to connect their souls to the land in AF #1. He could have done it in New Avengers. Manitou in JLA casted his spirit walk spell and a few were already gutted- they ripped of Flash's legs. In that JLA he did the spirit chant when everyone was dead and only Kyle Rayner Green Lantern was left. He just needed a sacrifice. It could be worked out similarly

[Legerd]

...I've seen very few (from this board) make their voices heard in the "Bring Back Alpha Flight" threads at the Marvel boards...

Just to update a bit, I changed the name of the thread at the Marvel boards to The Alpha Flight Appreciation Thread as suggested by a couple posters.

Here's the new link: The Alpha Flight Appreciation Thread (http://marvel.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=98826)

[Legerd]

I had an idea (which I may have posted before, can't recall) that would have Talisman, Sasquatch, Snowbird and Earthmover (who has made a new medicine pouch) form a new AF to round up all the former members still alive (including any depowered mutants like Windshear) in an effort to to create a cosmic cube to bring the team back from the dead.
As they go about it, they have to cross into the US which would bring them into conflict with the Initiative teams as well as the X-men and Norman Osborne's T-bolts and Avengers.
Eventually, they gather everyone who is willing to join them, fight their way through the States getting help from big brains like Reed Richards in figuring out how to build a cube, then finally making one. They succeed in resurrecting most of the dead (with the exceptions of Puck II and Major Maple Leaf II who wish to remain together happily in death, and Shaman who also wishes to remain in the afterlife with his wife) and a new AF is formed, with some heroes choosing to take support roles rather than being active agents. Shaman does hang around as a spirit and helps to train Earthmover as the new Shaman.

[cmdrkoenig67]

Sounds pretty cool...Except for Earthmover, I really dislike the character. It's probably because I like Shaman/Michael Twoyoungmen and didn't want a replacement (that's what Chuck was apparently being groomed for...bleh!).

I guess I wouldn't mind Michael as a guiding spirit for Elizabeth/Talisman, though. I would rather see Mac left dead...He's been back far too many times as it is.

Dana

[Flightpath07]

Sounds pretty cool...Except for Earthmover, I really dislike the character. It's probably because I like Shaman/Michael Twoyoungmen and didn't want a replacement (that's what Chuck was apparently being groomed for...bleh!).

I guess I wouldn't mind Michael as a guiding spirit for Elizabeth/Talisman, though. I would rather see Mac left dead...He's been back far too many times as it is.

Dana

I agree with you on Chuck, Michael, and Mac.