Resurrections : How would you ...

[Powersurge]

So, I'm curious how YOU, as a writer/idea-man, would bring Mac back if a new AF was launched and he was part of the mixture?

I personally just don't thik it could be done convincingly at this point. But I'm open to being proven wrong! :D

[suzene]

All of the "classic" Flight members who died that day were the dopplegangers from Alpha Flight v. 3. Too bad, so sad, hey look who's back from space! Narya, Liz, Walter and the twins spend an hour telling them all in explicit detail how much pain they will be in if they ever, EVER put them through that kind of crap again, then it's off for celebratory beers. ;)

[AKexpress]

So, I'm curious how YOU, as a writer/idea-man, would bring Mac back if a new AF was launched and he was part of the mixture?

I personally just don't thik it could be done convincingly at this point. But I'm open to being proven wrong! :D

I'm with you. I'm not sure it would stick. They've pretty much done it every which way throughout Alpha's history, haven't they? It would almost have to be "eXiles"-style, IMO. Lost heroes from an alternate timeline finding a home on Earth-616 (as long as Walt's not in a woman's body again ;-) ).

[AKexpress]

I'm rusty on my Alpha Flight history, was Black Razaar still being held by Puck? I can't remember how that all worked out. In any case, I'd maybe have Razaar's Spirit become free/dislodged when the Collective killed Puck, and then out of revenge, grab the souls of Mac, Heather, Eugene, Michael, Zha Zha and Major then and there in the snowy wilderness. Liz and Narya can discover this and assemble the team to go rescue them. Then Walt and Jeffries can build them android bodies until "real" ones can be found. Alpha Flight sort of has the PATENT on that type of "resurrection", with the aforementioned "Woman-Walt / Box-Robot" storyline.

I liked Razaar as a villain. Even if he wasn't still being trapped inside Puck's body by the time of the Collective incident... ah, hell, I'd just retcon that he was. ;-)

[mos_def]

Razaar actually was freed before the collective. Razaar actually is the one that hacked Crimson Commando when he went over to Saudi Arabia. Puck became dimunitive again after the Master messed with his DNA

How to bring back Mac? Hmm? I guess I would have to bring it back to their death. Shaman could have cast a spell with the Northern Gods and are in their Limbo. Get Snowbirds son to come back from Paradise and warn of the release of a Great Beast attack.

Or, have the Master somehow take samples or replace the dead ALphas with dead clones. Then have an ancient sect of the Plodex show up, I would call them the Plodi, and really thrash the Master. He knows he needs help and releases Alpha Flight.

[Mokole]

Beta Project, or as mos-def says, a Shaman spell.

[DancingDevil]

I actually wouldn't even try. I'm pretty tired of the constant cycle of death and resurrection in comics. Death has lost all meaning. And as a result, life has become cheap. It would be nice if, even just once, a character could be allowed to die with dignity and not be brought back as a plot device.

Now, I don't hate all resurrections. When done properly and sparingly they can be very powerful events. Especially in cases like Hal Jordan or Barry Allen. But those two had been dead for years. Decades even. An entire generation had grown up (myself included) knowing only their successors. When they were brought back, it was done in such a way that allowed newer readers to become acquainted, while at the same time shining a new light on them for older readers. And in both cases, bringing them back didn't simply revert things to the previous status quo. In fact, bringing them back added to the continuity, moving the characters forward, as opposed to backward.

Sadly, such resurrections are rare (as they should be) and are drowned out by other, lesser resurrections, such as what I like to call the "One Year Later" resurrection, where a character is killed off purely as a gimick, with the intention of bringing them back soon afterward. Examples would include Captain America and Batman. It was cool when it happened to Superman, but now it's become overused and lost any emotional value. This would be even more true for Guardian, since he has already gone through the death/resurrection process.

The bottom line is that, as much as I love Mac and miss him, I would much rather see things move forward, with at least a little sense of permanence. I think ultimately it is far more respectful to a character to let them die than to constantly bring them back, especially if it is only to appease fans and ultimately serves no overall purpose beyond that.

[mos_def]

Mokole,

I didnt know what Beta project was so I did some research. That was a good idea of yours. Im actually PMing you with other stuff

[mreeez]

I wouldn't resurrect him as I would have it that he and Heather didn't die as we all were led to believe.

I would have them, both, retired living on a farm somewhere out of hero life, acknowledge how close they came to death at the hands of the Collective and given up hero life as they are now parents. Then you could have something bring either one, or both out of retirement but it had better be a good reason. This way they are still alive and us hardcore fans wouldn't worry about their child being an orphan.

[AKexpress]

Beta Project, or as mos-def says, a Shaman spell.

I like the Beta-Project idea. Good stuff!

The Shaman spell idea is decent too, as well as the Plodi concept, and mreeez's twist.

If Black Raazer had anything to do with it, an oracle from whatever faction he's with could tell him about Puck's impending death, and he could glean the Where and When, setting a trap on the spiritual plane to capture their fleeting souls in his blade. He left Sasquatch alone because in order to finish him off he would've had to become physical, and the SHIELD monitors would spot him.

In any case, i'm more open to them all coming back than I was two days ago, that's for sure.

[Garry/Al-Fan]

Deal with Mephisto. If Mac, Michael, Heather, Puck, Zusha, and Louis are truly dead, one way for them to come back would be to make a deal with Mephisto. I don't think that Michael would do it, because his knowledge of mystism would give him more avenues to return [and (plausible) resurrection] than the others, but a pseudo-scientific/magical way through A.I.M. would do it, too.

[kozzi24]

Those who were supposed to be off in space who the Collective killed were Skrulls. The characters we know are still all fine. Snowbird did not go into space with them at the last minute because her place is defending earth. Maple Leaf and Puck 2 are truly dead.

[Legerd]

I already stated in at least one other thread the way I want the team to be resurrected. Talisman leads the remaining Alphans on a mission to bring the dead members back through one of three ways: making a cosmic cube; casting a powerful spell or invading the afterworld. I would like to see the last one myself. Every step of the journey, from gathering scattered Alphans to the moment they go in to get their friends and family, we get stories from the survivors about the dead members so new readers can learn about them and older readers can relive some classic moments.
In the end, they succeed, but the dead must choose to leave. All but Shaman (who is reunited with his wife), and Puck II and MML (who are happy together forever) choose to come back. Cue tearful moment between Talisman and her father and scene. Of course the invasion and resurrection is going to have consequences with the higher powers in the MU which leads to future stories.

[Le Messor]

... the afterworld. I would like to see the last one myself.

That can be arranged.

[Legerd]

That can be arranged.

Is that a threat LM? :.

[Le Messor]

Is that a threat LM? :.

I'm not saying anything.

I wasn't saying anything then, and I'm not saying anything now...

[marvelboy74]

I don't know about Mac, but I would bring back Heather as Nemesis. Nemesis did have red hair...

I don't think Talisman should resurrect Alpha, I think the Dream Queen would be a much better choice.

[Alpha Rider]

The goverment must have DNA samples of the original and/or all AF members. They can clone them, like they did Mac in vol II. I know clones are a dirty word in comics, but lets move on from what happened to Spidey 15 years ago.

[-K-M-]

You can always bring back Mac the way they did in Paradise X

[Mrfurious87]

I would retcon Bill Mantlos poor portrayal of Roger Bochs as a Skrull and have Roger being kept hidden by Department H with which he was a big part of Volume 2's evil Dept H I would of had him forced into doing it, feeling bad Roger comes and resurrects a new and improved Alpha already having Talisman and Sasquatch alive knowing that most of alpha died against the collective have talisman conjure thier former bodies back grabbing their souls from limbo with her powers proving to everyone hhow truly powerful she is even when compared to the likes of Dr Strange I would then assume that the Marrina Norman got ahold of was a clone of her and have the true Marrina be frozen in the antarctic oceans which Namor finds being scared to hrut anyone Marrina runs to teh only place she knows is safe her home in newfoundland where she finds a mournful Dan Smallwood who just lost his wife to cancer Marrina being frozen for so long ends up telling him how she feels and he tells her they hthen live there life alone for the time being until Alpha gets wind of her being alive more when I can think of it thats how I would write the ressurection of damn Bendis..oh ya in my book I would also have SHIELD capture Bendis as well as Mantlo and torture them making them into another omega to show them how stupid an idea that it was.

whew loads of ranting hope u guys like my idea.

[suzene]

oh ya in my book I would also have SHIELD capture Bendis as well as Mantlo and torture them making them into another omega to show them how stupid an idea that it was.

I don't have a lot of love for what Mantlo did to the team and none for Bendis' cheap, off-panel shock value kill, but there's no call for that degree of mean-spiritedness, particularly considering what actually happened to Mantlo.

[DelBubs]

I don't have a lot of love for what Mantlo did to the team and none for Bendis' cheap, off-panel shock value kill, but there's no call for that degree of mean-spiritedness, particularly considering what actually happened to Mantlo.[-X Seemed to me like a pretty tongue in cheek comment. Maybe we should check if the person is aware of the slight before chastising them for it.

[Mrfurious87]

nah I was being sarcastic I truly have no real hate for either especially Mantlo who I actually love for his great runs on micronauts and ROM he was just the wrong thing for alpha at the time

[suzene]

nah I was being sarcastic I truly have no real hate for either especially Mantlo who I actually love for his great runs on micronauts and ROM he was just the wrong thing for alpha at the time

Fair enough.

[Le Messor]

I would retcon Bill Mantlos poor portrayal of Roger Bochs as a Skrull

Now, there's something I never thought of, that should've been done - the whole time the Skrulls were taking over for the heroes, they should've been destroying their reputations.
Subtly.
Instead, they pretty much just carried on as usual.

Or... Civil War.

- Le Messor
"He flung himself on his horse and rode madly off in all directions..."

[Mrfurious87]

which would of been a genious move as the skrulls could of taking over bochs with the fake legs since that is truly where he lost touch as bochsie 2 me

[Raja]

I haven't read the issues where all of the original AF died, so I'm not sure how I'd ressurect them.

But I know how I'd ressurect Kyle, right out of that molten iron. He'd crawl out of it, hissing, steaming, burning, boiled and barely alive. He'd be mute and disfigured, and his mutation pushed into a full quadruped stance from the assault on his system, an homage to Tieri and to his final X-Factor appearance, which would make sense to the character in his present condition. He'd be animalistic for a time, with only memories of Aurora thinly anchoring him to humanity. It would take him forever to recover, wandering around that area of Russia, hunting for food and gaining the reputation as an unseen beast to the local populaces. Alpha Flight tracks him down, yes, yes, fine, with the help of Wyre (I hate him, but as a pro I'd actually write him with some dignity as there are people who actually like him). Kyle is still in very bad physical and mental shape, and tentatively goes back with Aurora to recover fully in peace and where he is most familliar.

That's one way to possibly ressurect Kyle at least. The others? I like the clones idea.

[Mrfurious87]

I love that wild child idea it seems the most plausible for him and though i am not a fan of wild child post byrne that has my interest in your ressurection of him

[DIGGER]

Some good ideas by all, but I'm just not too keen on the whole cloning thing. If they come back, it should be the original characters. What If?...as the collective is in the process of thrashing our heroes, at the last minute Guardian uses that under-used, barely explained power of his to have all the members stay "at rest" in relation to the earths rotation. Having accomplished this but due to the enormous strain on himself and the rest of Alpha they all appear to have perished in the eyes of the collective who then moves on. Earthmover (who was instructed to stay in the Alpha-jet) saw what transpired and rushes out to aid the injured. Using his powers he is able to get everyone into the jet and back to Dept H. Because they were all so badly hurt, they are put into stasis by Dept H (or if you like Earthmover could create earth-coocoons) so they can heal. Sasquatch, being stronger than the rest, is revived sooner but is unaware that the rest of Alpha is still alive (just in case the regen is not successful) and is put in charge of attempting to rehabilitate Pointer. Shift to the present time (one year later in both comic time and reat time) and Alpha is awakened, hale and hearty once again to save our country...NO! THE ENTIRE WORLD!...from some new and terrible evil the way Alpha should.

[Alpha Rider]

I like that idea. It sounds like you gave it alot of thought. BTW Welcome.:)

[Le Messor]

Digger,

Welcome aboard. With that out of the way, I'm gonna tear you a new plothole.

Aren't I a nice guy?

Your idea shows quite a bit of knowledge of AF, even some obscure stuff - you've clearly read more than just the main series.
Unfortunately, I don't think it really works; the power should make them all move very, very far away, and should only be used very high up in the air (never, ever indoors, are you listening X-Men / Alpha Flight v2?). First, they were standing around for all this; second, we saw the bodies, in pretty much the same place. It would be a stretch to say they went far enough to get out of harm's way, then ended up right back where they started (went all the way around the world?).
Also, I don't think it can be used on multiple people, certainly not when he isn't hanging onto them.

- Le Messor
"He looked at me as if I was a side dish he hadn’t ordered."

[Alpha Rider]

Hey Le Messor. :p Thanks for pointing out the plot holes.

[Le Messor]

It's what I do.

Look! There's one!

... Nope, sorry. That was just a rock.

- Le Messor
"He loved the rain. She came into his life and gave him an umbrella."

[DIGGER]

Le Messor,

Thanks for the welcome, now if you don't mind I'd like to fill in your "plot holes". I don't recall that this power should/could only be used high up in the air, besides I think that given the situation that Mac and the others were in he would try anything and everything to save all concerned. Also, I never said that he was able to successfully teleport the team away (hence the condition of our heroes when the image is shown on the next page). Perhaps the attack from The Collective shorted out the process. There is one more thing to add for your consideration: Mac designed the suit, right? He is a scientist, right? Aren't scientists always trying to improve their creations? Tony Stark does. Reed Richards does. Hank Pym does. So why should we assume that Mac would just be content to have the same outfit all these years without improving on it (it has already blown up once). He is a smart guy, lets give him the benefit of the doubt (also I am using info from the Shield Files from the Marvel Universe figure which states: ...regarding schematics to James Hudson's armor technology, it appears to have several upgrades that our files previously have not identified).------I am using this as a source only because it is a licensed Marvel product and therefore it could support my idea. Lastly, you say that it would be a stretch for them to travel around the world and end up in the same place? C'mon, in this day and age of gps and google maps surely Mac's suit would be able to accomplish such a feat. Besides, he has already been to one of Jupiter's moons, put under ground as a computer control, "died" what, three times? In the world of comics there is no such thing as a stretch (GUARDIAN CLONE ANYONE?) which is what can make anything possible.

[Le Messor]

It's never been stated his power should only be used high up... I just happen to think that it's a good idea when it involves moving faster than you can see. ie: low down means obstacles, means *splat*!
As you say, though, it was a desperate situation. Could have tried anything...

He's more engineer than scientist, but that doesn't change anything you've said.
Yeah - those SHIELD files are a little ambiguous.

There is too such a thing as a stretch in comics! Look at Reed Richards!
Oh, wait... not that kind of stretch...

- Le Messor
"He must have made that before he died."
~ Yogi Berra (attrib)

[Trodorne]

to me you could not bring back the old alpha flight unless they made guest appearances like Northstar since he is with the x-men, or box.
I had a story idea back during civil war when omega flight came out and the story would be introduction of new characters some mutants, a scientist, a vigilante, a Norse Elf spell caster, and a immortal.
Torrent: this was a character i kind of fashioned after myself. he is a mutant but Vancouver. his powers are to manipulate the elements of earth,wind,water,fire, electricity and heart..... ignore that last one. part time video game reviewer, comic junkie and slacker. has a hard time controling more than one element at the same time. does not have the attention span to practice.
Guardian: Jacob Dumont, native Part time engineering professor, who after many years of admiring the original Alpha flight team, dedicated his time to make his own Battle Armor designed in the style of the original guardian. though similar workings of the Tony Stark armor, this big bulky armor looks more like the Hulkbuster armor that was made in shop class. the special alloy was designed to be a synthetic copy of vibrainium which a sample was allowed to be studied on a privalidged trip to wakanda.
E.M.P: Amelia Rose, wise cracking red head. he mutant powers are to control,create and manipulate electro magnetic fields. danger for computers and any electronic weaponry, and to torrent when he tries to make a move on her.
Nilaefujr: spell slinging light elf from the realm of Alfheim. unofficial ambassidor and wanderer. came to Midgard after hearing of stories of the adventures of Thor. he has a fear of Open bodies of water, but has a secondary weakness as he has become addicted to Donuts, especially those of the honey dip kind.
Erros Noran: Lived on what used to be a very fertile Antartica. Immortal and can never die, unless you cut off his head, his body will be dead but his head will stay alive. spend the last 279 years, 219 days, 17 hours, 12 mins, and 15 seconds alone in the canadian wilderness lost. he blames he got a bad directions from some pretty shady looking squirrels. Though his sanity is often questioned his fighting style is not.
Fury: a costumed vigilante, no powers but wears a mask and brings gangs or criminals to justice, armed with an array of tools hand made himself he prowls the streets of Winnipeg taking down arsonists, gangs, and thieves. though honored he thinks to be in the big leagues he often goes back to his home city to deal with the scum on his own.

so this would be for civil war. secret invasion would be included all the way up to the Heroic Age. in the heroic age i have a few ideas to incorperate into mainstream as well as have guest villians and heroes make an appearance.

[Mystic]

You know...the more I thought about this subject and read through the responses, my idea slightly shifted. I like the idea of Mac making a deal with Mephiso. I would write a mini-series that would work out how the members who died are dealing with it in the afterlife. Mac is shown by Mephisto (who knows that he would probably be the best one to try and corrupt) glimpses into these reactions...showing Heather's last. With her in grief over the fate of their child, Mac makes a deal to return them to life (feeling that his daughter needs her parents). Upon their return, the backhanded deal is revealed that Mac is now ethereal, cannot leave Heather's side, and perhaps his memory altered.

I think that after the mini-series, a new series would launch with most of the original members (though they would slightly be haunted by their deaths). Heather would retire and take care of her daughter, not knowing that Mac is there. She would also be haunted by what happened a little confused as to why Mac didn't return with them. I think that for a story arc or two I would have them dealing with their deaths and resurrections, and the repercussions of such a deal with the devil.

Just my two cents.

-Mystic

[Trodorne]

You know...the more I thought about this subject and read through the responses, my idea slightly shifted. I like the idea of Mac making a deal with Mephiso. I would write a mini-series that would work out how the members who died are dealing with it in the afterlife. Mac is shown by Mephisto.
woah woah woah. you are reminding me of one more day...i still despise Joe Quasada for doing that. i dislike re writing history, nothing good ever comes from it. all you can do is honor the ones who have fallen. use what you got to give back to a new generation.

[Mystic]

woah woah woah. you are reminding me of one more day...i still despise Joe Quasada for doing that. i dislike re writing history, nothing good ever comes from it. all you can do is honor the ones who have fallen. use what you got to give back to a new generation.

Don't get me wrong, I hated One More Day, and I am not talking about rewriting history. Their deaths would have still happened. Nothing in history would have been rewritten. They would have still gotten their ridiculous off-panel deaths at the hands of The Collective. The only thing that would happen would be that they are now back, and they have to deal with the repercussions of that. No one's memory would be altered (with perhaps the exception of Mac...but that was just an idea I threw out...not even one I'm totally attached to). The only difference would be that Mac would get screwed in the deal (as most who deal with the 'devil' do). If I gave the impression that it would be anything similar to One More day, I apologize. I just wanted to reflect in the members how their deaths effected them, and how their sudden and unexpected return furthers to mess with them as a country wants answers. I wanted to acknowledge that their deaths meant something, and that their return means something different.

-Mystic

[Garry/Al-Fan]

woah woah woah. you are reminding me of one more day...i still despise Joe Quasada for doing that. i dislike re writing history, nothing good ever comes from it. all you can do is honor the ones who have fallen. use what you got to give back to a new generation.

Time travel/messing with history is a staple of fiction/science fiction, now. I haven't read One More Day, and I thought of the Mephisto idea (for Alpha Flight) long before OMD came out. Dept. H would not depend on children to defend the country against the types of threats the original Alphans faced: volume 2's version pretty much confirmed this when Mesmero hypnotized the whole team, newbies & "veterans."

When I was growing up, Marvel used to be known as "the House of Ideas." A lot of the things Marvel did hadn't been done before. Maybe it's time Marvel became that innovative house of ideas, again.

[Mokole]

That's where the idea of Shaman saving the rest, unknowable to the rest of the world, or Guardian using his suit's ability, to save some, is more original and 'plausible'.

Heather with no memory of most of her true history, same with Mac, raising their daughter while working on a dam-building project in Africa.

Zhuza and MML raising their child in northern Quebec. He's with RCMP, she's a computer analyst.

Puck a secret agent again.

Talisman one day sees a report on Africa and is sure she sees Heather/Mac.

Shaman is dead but does one day, in mystic astral form, reveal to Talisman what really happened to AF. He tells her to leave them alone, they are happy and don't need their old lives in AF. Except Puck, who Shaman says could go either way, stay a secret agent or return to Alpha Flight with Sasquatch, Nemesis, a new Guardian, and Aurora.

[Trodorne]

I could see Shaman becoming like Obi won kenobi where its astral form but only appears to Talisman or any other person who uses magic.

Edit* also what if you could have an investigative reporter trying to find out what exactly happened to them and their supposed death. who knows even if they were dead that would not stop someone like Mr.Sinister from taking the bodies and tampering with them. especially if anyone of them were mutants.

[Trodorne]

I know my idea for an Alpha flight team might seem very strange. but the idea for the story was that they would be outside of the law at first, but then over time they would come to use the government except for 1 or 2 members who would be against it. but still it was an arc to work into. which still can make good for many issues. i just think story wise and how i could make this a comic and make it last a while.
I loved the old Alpha Flight if there was a way to bring them back good do it!. but right now i don't think they would come back unless by a miracle. Personally with things with second coming going on right now in comics, and Hope being there. new mutants will start popping up possibly in parts of Canada. so i tried to take sort of the old styles of comics like Spider-man and the X-men and tried to make it for a new team. thinking more like a justice league of canada. Nilaefujr for example I wanted him like Martian Manhunter, but soon as the Heroic age comes around, he would try to set up as himself an ambassador to Alfheim or Asgard to canada. but after so many series he would still work with the team. maybe get convinced to work with them based on pay of donuts.
So i don't know i wish they could bring back alpha flight. in the mean time i guess ill post my idea in the fan fiction board and wait for the day something might happen.

[DIGGER]

There seems to be a common thread here of Alpha Flight making a deal with Mephisto to get back to the land of the living. Why Mephisto? Why not Sedna? Who's Sedna you may ask? Well She just happens to be the Inuit Goddess of the Sea and the dead. She has previously appeared in Marvel comics (see Thor v.2, #3) and has even tried to marry Namor at one point! Not only would She be a great reference to Canada but She ties in with Shaman, Talisman, Snowbird, Yukon Jack and yes... Marrina! The possibilities to bring back Alpha could involve Nelvanna, Hodiak and Snowbird petitioning Sedna for their release or even Namor (and possibly the rest of the Avengers---- I smell CROSS-OVER) going to try to save the team out of love for Marrina. By bringing in Sedna, the Alpha book family gets bigger and also could introduce a whole new group of Gods that could pop up from time to time to either cause trouble or provide a reason for some "missions" that Alpha must undertake (which could be of major proportions and again involve other characters in the Marvel universe like Thor, Hercules, Namor, etc.----again I smell CROSS-OVER!). And we all know how much Marvel loves to do cross-overs.

DIGGER

[Garry/Al-Fan]

That's where the idea of Shaman saving the rest, unknowable to the rest of the world, or Guardian using his suit's ability, to save some, is more original and 'plausible'....Shaman is dead but does one day, in mystic astral form, reveal to Talisman what really happened to AF. He tells her to leave them alone, they are happy and don't need their old lives in AF. Except Puck, who Shaman says could go either way, stay a secret agent or return to Alpha Flight with Sasquatch, Nemesis, a new Guardian, and Aurora.

I just don't see how Alpha Flight could be happy when they were cut down (easily it appears) by a threat---not only to their country but to the world---that they could not stop. I get the part were Heather and Mac have their minds selectively wiped (a la the conspiracy-loaded Dept. H of volume 2) to rejoin their daughter, but it seems like no one other than Shaman would be dead. Which brings it right back to 'why kill them off in the first place just to bring them back as if nothing had happened'?

I still don't get why Wolverine, Northstar, Aurora didn't make a big deal about their 'deaths' (to my knowledge), or why Yukon Jack would be contacted instead of Chuck Moss.

I see that the Mephisto idea isn't new anymore, so why not have Damian Hellstrom help save AF? I'm not that familiar with the character, but bringing him back with AF "featured" or "guest-stars" might take the onus of succeeding or failing off AF.

[SpaceGuardian]

How to bring them back?

One: The original team gets back from dealing with the Plodex and is shocked to find that they've been "killed". They set out to "set things right".

or

Two: The originals were "killed" by the Collective, but are swept up by Dept. H and kept "on ice" with Chuck Moss being forced to "hold their souls" (like Michael did in X-Men Unlimited). Eventually someone, Logan or Walt, find out about them and breaks everyone out. Wanted by the government, AF must defend their country while avoiding re-capture or worse.

[Sasquatch17]

^^I like the first option!

[Flightpath07]

Personally, i like the first option best, too. it gives the most latitude and leeway for properly dealing with the team concept, instead of having them most all being actually dead and being resurrected (for some of them, yet again).

however...beggars can't be choosers.

Any Flight, is something to be thankful for. No matter how they come to be.

[Tawmis]

So, I'm curious how YOU, as a writer/idea-man, would bring Mac back if a new AF was launched and he was part of the mixture?
I personally just don't thik it could be done convincingly at this point. But I'm open to being proven wrong! :D

Issue #1, I would do a nod to the classics. The Great Beasts return. Snowbird returns from the heavens and gathers the remaining members of Alpha Flight: Sasquatch, Northstar, Aurora and Talisman. Realizing that despite their power they can not win - Snowbird suddenly bails on the fight, leaving the remaining Alpha Flight members to fend for themselves, thinking Snowbird has betrayed them.

Show Snowbird talking to the Gods from which she is from. They don't explain what she's asking, only that it's a bad idea, and such things shouldn't be tampered with. Snowbird explains it must be done if the Great Beasts are to be defeated.

Last panel of issue #1, Snowbird shows up with Shaman, Puck and Mac to help fight the Great Beasts in a great splash page.

[Le Messor]

:) You're trying to make your resurrection.
We're hoping that's already in place, with Chaos War.

- Le Messor
Kirk: "I know a little place across town where the women... the women..."
McCoy: "Oh, yes! I know the place. Let's go!"

[AOAbox]

How I wouldbring back alapha flight for a new series....I would have the Department of Defense scientist open a poral to an alterate earth, which would bring forth versions of Alapha Flight and the villians they fought. ( Like a age of apocoplypse.)
This would give writers a chance to explore different possiblities of Alapha Flight's characters, relationships, and Department H's role in the world.
I would love to see Alapha Flight be a real world powerhouse like the x-men, fanastic four, or avengers. Also I would like to see some characters like the Zodiac come back as a hero, or give Puck some more powers that make him more dangerous.
With Alapha coming out of an alternate earth they would have new histories to explore and they could do they whole secret agenda plot with the heroes using Dept. H to forward their goals.