Exclusive Avengers #4 Fan Expo 2010 Cover - What About Canada's Mightiest Heroes!

[swh_comicguy]

Check out the latest added exclusive by Phil Jimenez.

http://www.fanexpocanada.com/page/view/exclusives

I wasn't going to go this year, but now I am.

Sweet cover! :)

Please bring my favourite team back!

Even an Alpha Flight Forever mini-series would be something to quench our desires!

[Flightpath07]

Hey, that is a SWEEEEEET lookin' cover. However...I'd bet money that we haven't officially heard that AF will be appearing in this issue. As it says, it is a special Canadian cover.

Just a guess, but perhaps the Avengers are asked to patrol Canada as well, since there is no AF?

Again, unti,l I hear more...it is a sweet cover, but somehow I have my doubts that the original AF is back and appearing in this issue. Wait and see time...

[swh_comicguy]

I'm just hoping that this ties into a possible big announcement for us Canucks, a new series or mini.

[rplass]

WANT. That cover is frakking awesome. Must have. Maybe I'll go to Toronto just to get it.

[DIGGER]

Love the cover! Just wish I lived in Toronto instead of Alberta.....wtf did I just say?

DIGGER

[Flightpath07]

Love the cover! Just wish I lived in Toronto instead of Alberta.....wtf did I just say?

DIGGER

Digger! :eek:

Wash your mouth out with soap! Or soup. Whichever tastes better (I've had some pretty horrible soups in my day...).

[Flightpath07]

Couple of thoughts on the cover...

Sasquatch looks great!

Aurora is in a classic outfit. Heather is not in a costume - she looks circa issue 14 of volume 1 - makes me think this may be a flashback issue. Talisman is in her "less skimpy" costume, from the looks of things.

Not sure what that green, crackling glowing thing is in front of Sasquatch...

Also not sure what that thing is on Guardian's costume, but I know it is NOT a Maple Leaf! FAR from it!

[-K-M-]

and the cover was done by Phil Jimenez. Hmmm...

[varo]

that is the best i've seen them look since byrne drew them. i'm trying to connect the dots on the rumors out there.

1) jimenez is the artist linked to a possible relaunch. he tweeted that he is drawing characters that he loves. then this comes out, but he tweeted that tuesday, this is older than tuesday.

2) the cover says avengers, fred van lente let the cat out of the bag that he's writing a new avengers series.

hmmm......


i may be reaching, but i hope theres at least a sliver of truth in there.

[mreeez]

that is the best i've seen them look since byrne drew them. i'm trying to connect the dots on the rumors out there.

1) jimenez is the artist linked to a possible relaunch. he tweeted that he is drawing characters that he loves. then this comes out, but he tweeted that tuesday, this is older than tuesday.

2) the cover says avengers, fred van lente let the cat out of the bag that he's writing a new avengers series.

hmmm......


i may be reaching, but i hope theres at least a sliver of truth in there.

Van Lente tweeted a few days ago that the Avengers he is writing has all of its members that have been Avengers before.

[MistressMerr]

Oh my gosh, GORGEOUS cover. I doubt the issue itself ties itself into Alpha's latest rumored comeback, but I don't even care, that is FANTASTIC looking. Classic (and best) looks for the lot of them, but not necessarily the #1 iconic looks that everyone immediately thinks of, you can really tell Jimenez is a fan of the team.

[cmdrkoenig67]

Lovely cover...The green energy appears to be coming from Elizabeth (or her hands, anyway).

Dana

[MistressMerr]

Good catch! Ugh, I want a bigger version so badly. XD Check out the subtle glow on Aurora!

[swh_comicguy]

Based on the solicitation for Avengers #4, there is a slight possibility that the Flight may appear in the issue (The timestream is broken...), though I'm thinking it is just an exclusive cover for a Canadian comic show.

"The blockbuster Marvel comic of the year continues!! The timestream is broken and with that the Marvel Universe has fallen into utter chaos. Can the Avengers defeat Kang and even if they do, is it too late? Guest-starring EVERYONE!! Plus! Another startling chapter in the untold oral history of the Avengers by Brian Michael Bendis...! "

On another note, if it is going to be a series, someone has got to get Phil some proper reference materials when it comes to drawing Vindicator/Guardian (Mac). That attempt at a Maple Leaf is just poor / lazy.

[rplass]

That solicit reminds me of the Avengers Forever storyline - in which Sasquatch and Northstar appeared as Avengers from some unspecified timeline.

Love,
rplass

[varo]

found a larger version.

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[MistressMerr]

lol, Puck looks so ~intense~

[maniac mike]

I love that cover!!!

[Flightpath07]

No Marrina, I see...

[-K-M-]

Damn I want to buy this variant, but you have to buy the premium fan expo package and their sold out :(

[varo]

is anyone going to the show?

[-K-M-]

I was thinking of going just to get the cover :(

I still may though.

[cmdrkoenig67]

Why is everyone busting on Phil's maple leaf? I think it looks okay (certainly not as bad as Alpha Flight Volume 2's horrible maple leaves) and It's pretty close the style John Byrne first used in X-Men (and most of his Alpha Flight run) for Mac's uniform.

Dana

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_fZ37jdy-g4M/SuZllDWTdvI/AAAAAAAAAiU/nsA1mZ_i3KY/s1600-h/alpha-flight.jpg

http://dailypop.wordpress.com/2008/09/04/

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_aLSLK3FmdGo/S86jX_WAghI/AAAAAAAAGd4/mDw6PVD7w7Y/s1600/Guardian-Alpha-Flight.jpg

[Flightpath07]

Why is everyone busting on Phil's maple leaf? I think it looks okay (certainly not as bad as Alpha Flight Volume 2's horrible maple leaves) and It's pretty close the style John Byrne first used in X-Men (and most of his Alpha Flight run) for Mac's uniform.

Dana

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_fZ37jdy-g4M/SuZllDWTdvI/AAAAAAAAAiU/nsA1mZ_i3KY/s1600-h/alpha-flight.jpg

You need to save these two pictures somewhere, and look at them side by side. JB's is pretty dang close to perfect. This new one, looks like a red cannabis leaf or something - not even in the same ballpark.

How would you feel if an artist drew a new uniform for Captain America to wear, and it had the Stars and Stripes prominently displayed on it, only the stripes were all at a 45 degree angle and blurry, and there were only 11 stars? Would that accurately represent the American flag?

Some things you just don't want to mess up as a comic book artist. Three in particular; (1) don't mess up the Maple Leaf, (2) learn how to draw Sasquatch properly or go home, and (3) if the book's writer tells you to draw a panel wherer Alpha Flight is laying dead on the snow, just quit and go home. And that's my take on that. I like the picture, i really do, i just hate the job he did on Mac's costume, that's all; everything else looks great!

[cmdrkoenig67]

I disagree, FP...The only real difference between John Byrne's Guardian maple leaf and the one that Phil drew is that the bottom segment of Phil's leaf in pointing downward diagonally instead of horizontally toward his right side.

Dana

[Phil]

There's a slight dig/possible hint over at CBR; http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=27830

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I'm not beyond begging here; if anyone's at the Fan Expo and it's not stupidly hard/expensive to get I'd pay someone for their troubles.
There's no way this'll make it to anywhere in England otherwise...

[Phil]

Damn I want to buy this variant, but you have to buy the premium fan expo package and their sold out :(

It's now listed as:


LIMITED TO ONLY 1000 COPIESEXCLUSIVELY BY MARVEL!
$10.00 (HST INCLUDED)

** Only available at the Fan Expo Exclusives Booth

I'll reiterate; I will pay for someone to pick this up for me :)

[Flightpath07]

There's a slight dig/possible hint over at CBR; http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=27830

560

I'm not beyond begging here; if anyone's at the Fan Expo and it's not stupidly hard/expensive to get I'd pay someone for their troubles.
There's no way this'll make it to anywhere in England otherwise...

Not a very positive sounding hint, is it?

[Phil]

Yeah but the way
Y'know, if somebody like Phil were to illustrate it, I bet we might be able to get an Alpha Flight series to sell at that… is worded sets my senses tingling somewhere....

[-K-M-]

It's now listed as:

I'll reiterate; I will pay for someone to pick this up for me :)

Which I think you need the the premium fan expo package to get it at the booths. I may send an email concerning this.

[Wildcard]

Of course this is the first Fanexpo Im NOT going to - sonofa!

I went last year and went to the Q&A with Joe Q with one question on my mind and that was to ask about Alpha Flight. I was beat to it by another person but was thankful someone asked about them.

I think Marvel is finally clueing in that if you come to a con in Canada, you better have something to give the Alpha fans.

That said, its not just Marvel. I can look high and low around Fanexpo and there is very little AF merchandise, including comics, for sale or on display. I initially thought that a comic convention in Canada, there's got to be lots of AF merch I can buy and I always head home with a few comics - thats all.

I'd love to get action figures, toys, busts whatever but none of that stuff is ever available and I know its out there. I see it on this site.

[Le Messor]

Part of the trouble with the maple leaf is the perspective / the wrapping around his body.
But that's only part.

Apart from Guardian being there, it looks to me like the team as Byrne quit the book (and since Talisman joined after his death, that particular line-up doesn't make sense in any 616 timeline).

- Le Messor
"He who falls in love with himself will have no rivals."

[Flightpath07]

Part of the trouble with the maple leaf is the perspective / the wrapping around his body.
But that's only part.

Apart from Guardian being there, it looks to me like the team as Byrne quit the book (and since Talisman joined after his death, that particular line-up doesn't make sense in any 616 timeline).

- Le Messor
"He who falls in love with himself will have no rivals."

Good point about Talisman, I missed picking up on that.

[DIGGER]

Digger! :eek:

Wash your mouth out with soap! Or soup. Whichever tastes better (I've had some pretty horrible soups in my day...).

SHUT THE FRONT DOOR! BACK THE TRUCK UP! WHAT THE FOX CREEK!... Hey that orbitz gum really works!

DIGGER

[sergio]

Hi everyone! Could anyone please get a copy of one of these for me? I'm a long time Alpha Flight fan living on the other side of the Atlantic ocean, and when I saw this cover I really got pumped 'cause I think for me this is the best and most faithfull rendition of the Flight since de Byrne era, not to dismiss some other good ones of late like the Omega Flight run. But this one's definitely caught my attention.
So, if there's anyone out there willing and able to be at the con. Please make mine Marvel! Thanks.

P.S: High hopes for CB Cebulsky's panel today! Fingers crossed...

[Flightpath07]

Digger,
Can't help but notice that you live where my Dad was born. All the way back in 1923...

[DIGGER]

Digger,
Can't help but notice that you live where my Dad was born. All the way back in 1923...

So who's your daddy? Not that I'd know of him but I am 4th generation in town so I could look him up in our history books (no age joke meant)....just out of curiosity sake.

DIGGER

[rplass]

I had the very special honor of getting Phil Jiminez to sign my copy today at the Marvel Booth at NYCC 2010. Weird thing was both Stan Lee (yes, that Stan Lee) and Phil from alphaflight.net were both a few steps away from me at the time - Stan was on the Marvel stage signing autographs and Phil from alphaflight.net was a few people behind me on the line.

When I showed the comic to Phil Jiminez, he told me it was the first time he had seen it in print! I pointed out my favorite parts of the cover: notably the pointy ears on Northstar (though it's sad that one has to distinguish this minor issue from so many other depictions of Northstar with rounded ears), the green magical flames from Talisman as well as the snowy effects on the lower part of the cover. Phil Jiminez then sort of dropped into a bit of a pedagogical mode, telling me that the snow wasn't his, just the colorist and then started to really emphasize how a colorist can have a big effect on the finished artwork. He was like, 'No, no I really want to make a point here about the colorist...' I agreed with him of course, and we both agreed that the snowy effects were pretty cool. Then he admitted that he heard he got the maple leaf wrong on Guardian's costume. I tried to explain how it was supposed to look, (http://www.alphaflight.net/gallery/data/503/guardian1_gallery1.jpg) but he insisted that he had copied the shape from a Byrne image, and owed the misshapennes of the maple leaf to the fact that Guardian's stance was not exactly straight on. I really think that he did make an attempt to draw the maple leaf element of the costume, but nevertheless it came out looking odd.

Well it sure was cool to meet the guy!

Love,
rplass

[Flightpath07]

Cool story, rplass.


Then he admitted that he heard he got the maple leaf wrong on Guardian's costume.

Did he hear that from somebody ahead of you in line, or has he been reading this site?

[rplass]

I don't know who he heard it from! You think he googled himself and found this post? Ha!

[mos_def]

rplass,

Im just amazed you knew what Phil from the site looks like. I live near PWalk from the site but I wouldnt know him even if I sat next to him in Fargo de Chow or Chicki and Petes. I know what Ben looks like cuz of his wedding pics but I still wouldnt know him like that if we sat next to each other on a bus.

[Le Messor]

@Mos

You should keep away from those buses. Not only are they killing people (at least, at my work, we're always worried about 'what if so-and-so got hit by a bus?'), but apparently they're taking away your ability to recognise people.
Dangerous things, buses.

- LM
"Hire the morally handicapped."

[Flightpath07]

Most days I do not even recognize myself, let alone anybody else. Every time i look in the mirror, i wonderr how that old geezer got into my house!

[rplass]

Ah, we voluntarily sent pics to each other for the purpose of meeting up, which we eventually did!

He smells a lot better than I thought he would, by the way. And he's completely different in person than what you'd think - he's actully a really nice guy! Here's a pic of us together:

http://alphaflightcollector.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/phil.jpg?w=450

We actually toasted, "To Alpha Flight - the greatest superhero team the world has ever known!" heh, what a great moment!

Love,
rplass

[Mokole]

Two guys looking as unshaven as me, but I didn't go anywhere. ;)

[Le Messor]

Rplass, who's who in your pic?


Most days I do not even recognize myself, let alone anybody else. Every time i look in the mirror, i wonderr how that old geezer got into my house!

Every time that I look in the mirror, all these lines on my face are getting clearer.

[rplass]

Rplass, who's who in your pic?
He's the one with the British accent. I should add that when I said he was a realy nice guy, that only applies to sober Phil. See, he starts out all:

"Yip, yip! Jolly good, chap!"

then after a few beers, he's all:

"God shave the Queen!"

but after he's had too much, he's quite the insufferable drunk and just randomly spittle-shouts:

"Oh, Bloody hell! Bloody hell everywhere!"

So it's quite easy to tell us apart. I doubt you'd have any problem.

Love,
rplass

[Le Messor]

Oh, that clears it up nicely, thanks.

I was looking for the one with an Enterprise logo (I'm planning to start watching the remastered editions tonight for the first time. If you're a purist, you'll hate me for that. I have seen the original Original Series, of course.)

- Le Messor
"His mouth muscles forced his sluggish blood agonizingly through his veins ..."
~ Emil Petaja

[Flightpath07]

Every time that I look in the mirror, all these lines on my face are getting clearer.

Huh. Yeah, well...I used to bite the hand that pulled my chain.

[rplass]

Oh, that clears it up nicely, thanks.

I was looking for the one with an Enterprise logo (I'm planning to start watching the remastered editions tonight for the first time. If you're a purist, you'll hate me for that. I have seen the original Original Series, of course.)



I'm in the autobot shirt (I don't actually own any Star Trek clothing), and pshaw-I find the remastered versions to be quite superior to the originals.

Love,
rplass

[Le Messor]

I'm in the autobot shirt (I don't actually own any Star Trek clothing), and pshaw-I find the remastered versions to be quite superior to the originals.

Oh, good. I've got The Cage playing right now, but they haven't remastered that.

Oh, and the Autobot thing is even better than the accent at identifying which is which!

- Le Messor
Calvin: Hobbes, what do you think happens to us when we die?
Hobbes: I think we play saxophone for an all-girl cabaret in New Orleans.
Calvin: So you believe in heaven?
Hobbes: Call it what you like.

[cmdrkoenig67]

Look at those two handsome guys.

It sounds like you had fun, that's great to hear.

Dana

[Mokole]

I liked Balance of Terror, Doomsday Device, and City on the Edge of Forever. The remastered Doomsday Device was excellent.

[Le Messor]

Cool, can't wait! Those are some good eps. (Doomsday Device, iirc, is mostly set in space, so it'll take full advantage of the remastering.)

- Le Messor
"Hofstadter's Law: It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take Hofstadter's Law into account."

[Phil]

That's it, abuse me while you know full well I have no internet access :P

[Le Messor]

Last night, I ran into a problem with Trek. Well, put it this way: An hour-long episode of Original Star Trek is about an hour long.
I always figure that a one-hour show takes just under 45 minutes, but these were filmed before they got so crowded out with ads. (Meant I only got to see one instead of two before I had to go out.)


That's it, abuse me while you know full well I have no internet access

Well, you can't defend yourself. I can't think of a better time!

- Le Messor
"It's black magic!"
"Surely the best kind."
- Moriarty and his assistant (irrespectively), Star Trek: The Next Generation

[Le Messor]

Huh. Yeah, well...I used to bite the hand that pulled my chain.

I admit I had to look that up... I shouldn't, given Alice Cooper is my second-favourite ever.
It looks like Soundgarden has covered him!

- LM
"History repeats itself; historians repeat each other."

[rplass]

That's it, abuse me while you know full well I have no internet access :P

Guilty as charged! How could I resist? :D

Love,
rplass

[rplass]

Some things you just don't want to mess up as a comic book artist. Three in particular; (1) don't mess up the Maple Leaf, (2) learn how to draw Sasquatch properly or go home, and (3) if the book's writer tells you to draw a panel wherer Alpha Flight is laying dead on the snow, just quit and go home. And that's my take on that.

THIS. You hit the nail on the head with this one!! Awesome post

Love,
rplass

[Flightpath07]

Last night, I ran into a problem with Trek. Well, put it this way: An hour-long episode of Original Star Trek is about an hour long.
I always figure that a one-hour show takes just under 45 minutes, but these were filmed before they got so crowded out with ads. (Meant I only got to see one instead of two before I had to go out.)

I know. Even my Greatest American Hero episodes from the early 80's run abolut 49 to 51 minutes per episode. Crazy!


I admit I had to look that up... I shouldn't, given Alice Cooper is my second-favourite ever.

Shame!


THIS. You hit the nail on the head with this one!! Awesome post

Awwww...thanx! [blushing profusely]

[Le Messor]

I admit I had to look that up... I shouldn't, given Alice Cooper is my second-favourite ever.
Shame!

:oops:

[Ben]

YAH! I got my Fan Expo AF covered Avengers #4!!!! Thanks to Ian Daffern Blowout Productions, writer of http://www.freelanceblues.com (http://www.freelanceblues.com/) who had a booth at the expo and picked it up for me!

[Le Messor]

Woot!