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cmdrkoenig67
09-20-2010, 11:51 AM
Hi guys, since we started conversing about Alpha Flight villains (and possibly returning villains) here..

http://www.alphaflight.net/showthread.php?t=5340

I thought we should have a thread devoted to Alpha Flight villains...Past, present and future.

My picks for returning nasties...
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The Master of the World

The Great Beasts (of course)

Pestilence (I'd like to see him return, IMHO he was one of the better villains from Mantlo's run)

The Dream Queen

Omega Flight...Robot MX39147/Delphine...Why not...She's a robot, they're pretty resilient (and with Madison away from Canada, she'd feel safer getting Jaxon's revenge on Alpha), She could possibly regain control of Flashback, I'd like to see Radius return as a villain, he always did have a bad attitude, Box...It was interesting to have Jaxon using the Box robot and if Madison isn't using it, then why not a villain for a bit. Michael Pointer/Weapon Omega (why not?). Caliber...I think he may be better suited to a team setting. A mad and mentally-influenced Yukon Jack? Manbot, corrupted by a computer virus created by Delphine? Firebug, who briefly battled Windshear and Beta Flight in Vol 1. Marrina, while in a Plodex blood-lust and being influenced by Delphine? I'm drawing a blank now on others that might be good candidates for Omega.

The Wendigo (Alpha never faced him in any of their own series, but they would certainly run into him eventually, since he's Canada-based).

Lady Deathstrike (with guest star Wolverine?)...She first appeared as a villain in Alpha Flight, why not have her in Canada for some reason and Wolverine shows up on her trail?

Wild Child...Maybe begins creating his own assassin's guild (based in Canada and killing for money all over the world)? Or maybe just have him rejoin Omega Flight?

Nemesis, not necessarily a villain, but more of a vigilante/anti-hero, killing criminals and such...Alpha could try to catch her.

Arcade...Has battled members of Alpha twice (Puck, Heather and Northstar) and he will try to kill whom-ever he's hired to (could be hired by and enemy of Alpha, maybe a human enemy who has no powers themselves)...Using Arcade will once again show Alpha is a part of the Marvel Universe.

Gods of the North, could become adversaries to Alpha. Like Nemesis, not necessarily villains...But in their war against the Beasts, they do seem to be the types to do anything to win, regardless of human lives and such.

The Director (Malcolm Colcord) from the Weapon X series, he might still have a major beef with Aurora and he certainly hates mutants.

Tech-Noir, Brain-Drain, Miss Mass, Strongarm, Sinew and Bile?

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Possible New Adversaries (mostly other Marvel villains, tying Alpha more into the 616 Universe):
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Graviton is almost a given...Being a Canadian power-mad scientist, he's a perfect fit for Alpha's villain stable. The Avengers don't use him that often, anyway...He could be a major "big bad" for Alpha.

The Mole Man, maybe as a villain for a two-part story (Sasquatch's Alpha Flight battled him briefly in Volume 3)...It ties Alpha to the Marvel universe a bit more and he has tunnels all over the world...It makes sense that Alpha might run into him more than once.

X-Men villains like Mr Sinister or Apocalypse would also tie Alpha to the X-teams a bit more...Perhaps said villains could have some interest in Aurora and Northstar?

Aron the rogue Watcher, he had a base in Canada once, when he fought the Fantastic Four. Perhaps he could return?

Canadian Hellfire Club, mentioned in an issue of Wolverine...They don't have to be mutants, but could be powerful and power-hungry people bent on controlling Canada?

Weapon: P.R.I.M.E. Not necessarily villains, but could butt heads (maybe even have a scrap) with Alpha while on a joint mission some time.

Marrina's Plodex children

Some villains who escaped to Canada during the Civil War, like Tentakill, Slag, Raptore, Daisy, etc...

Flightpath07
09-20-2010, 06:36 PM
I vote for not only Wild Child as a major bad-arse villain for AF, but also for a seat on the Canadian Hellfire Club. I think it is about time we got to see that not only is Wild Child brutal, but he is also very intelligent. Also, bringing him back from the dead, I think Wolvie owes him after the newly-pierced WC took him down with ease in Wolvie's own series; might be a good way to have
"Mr. Snikt" guest-star in AF from time to time?

Again, hate to bring this up, but all this talk of future AF villains is predicated on us believing that when Chaos War ends, Alpha Flight will still be in the land of the living. Until it does end, we do not know that for sure...

Yukon Jack as a villain? I guess...I just really liked him as a hero, i thought he was one of the few good things to come out of AF Vol. 3. However, I think he could be a real annoyance for Snowbird, by playing up his love-relationship/marriage with the T.C. Snowbird (until one day, "bamph!", she just disappeared?) - if he saw her, would he believe Narya to be his wife? Interesting, I say!

One other thing. Anybody with access to the email accounts of any writers who have expressed interest in writing AF (FVL, McCann, etc), should send them a link to this thread. If they aren't reading this site already, that is! They need to know that we fans understand how to make this team, and its villains, interesting and successful - they should come here for ideas, and feel free to use them.

Nice job, Dana!

Legerd
09-20-2010, 06:36 PM
I agree with almost all your picks.

I never liked Pestilence and don't particularly want to see him back.

The Delphine robot was IIRC turned into the battlesuit that Heather wore so highly doubtful we'll see it again.

I'd like to see Wild Child return and (if he doesn't join Alpha Flight) become a an ongoing villain. It's a great idea for him to start up his own OF or assassins guild, but work as the spider in the web type of villain. He seemed to be smarter and more skilled when last seen in Wolverine, but has to get over that small case of death he came down with.

Graviton should have appeared long ago as an AF villain!

I was working on a fanfic idea once which had a Canadian Hellfire Club, but never knew one was actually brought up in the comics. I'd love to see that fleshed out. Northstar might be a member or maybe Walter since he has wealth. For the bad guys it could be a Canadian politician or even the Master of the World using a pseudonym.

Mauvais was trapped with the Great Beasts which means he could return someday.

Other existing villains should be used as well. How would AF handle Venom, Black Tom Cassidy, the Serpent Society or Kang?

Flightpath07
09-20-2010, 06:39 PM
How about Paste Pot Pete?

Legerd
09-20-2010, 06:42 PM
How about Paste Pot Pete?

A villain to make the hardiest hero quake in fear!

-K-M-
09-20-2010, 07:12 PM
I like the names mentioned, just to note Firebug was absorbed into the Master's battlesuit.

Sasquatch17
09-20-2010, 07:51 PM
The Great Beasts and the Master are my two favorites.

I think Graviton would be an excellent addition to AF's villan pantheon.

For me, the most important thing is to see the original Alpha Flight back together...Guardian, Sasquatch, Shaman, Snowbird, Northstar & Aurora.

Bill P
09-20-2010, 10:29 PM
Master and the Great Beasts are the no brainers. Graviton would be a good choice.

My Omega Flight Line up:
Box - controlled Jerry Jaxxon's mind as hew was hooked up to a computer whey back in Vol. 1 issue 12
Wild Child
Diamond Lil
Smart Alec
Flash Back
Witchfire
Bones - Pink Pearl's buddy

cmdrkoenig67
09-20-2010, 11:33 PM
I agree with almost all your picks.

I never liked Pestilence and don't particularly want to see him back.

The Delphine robot was IIRC turned into the battlesuit that Heather wore so highly doubtful we'll see it again.

I'd like to see Wild Child return and (if he doesn't join Alpha Flight) become a an ongoing villain. It's a great idea for him to start up his own OF or assassins guild, but work as the spider in the web type of villain. He seemed to be smarter and more skilled when last seen in Wolverine, but has to get over that small case of death he came down with.

Graviton should have appeared long ago as an AF villain!

I was working on a fanfic idea once which had a Canadian Hellfire Club, but never knew one was actually brought up in the comics. I'd love to see that fleshed out. Northstar might be a member or maybe Walter since he has wealth. For the bad guys it could be a Canadian politician or even the Master of the World using a pseudonym.

Mauvais was trapped with the Great Beasts which means he could return someday.

Other existing villains should be used as well. How would AF handle Venom, Black Tom Cassidy, the Serpent Society or Kang?


I totally forgot about Mauvais, L...Good one...He is so eeeeevil! He'd be a pretty creepy AF villain. I also like your suggestions of Black Tom and the Serpents as possible villains. Kang works too, since he's a cosmic sort of villain...He's not nailed down to any certain super hero group or country.

Some skrull action might be fun or maybe the Dire Wraiths?

Dana

Powersurge
09-22-2010, 07:09 AM
Graviton would make a great AF villain!

I never did like the Master, BUT I LIKE the idea of him as a member of a Canadian Hellfire Club. That could work very well. Nice idea!

Mokole
09-22-2010, 08:06 PM
Yes, having Dream Queen influencing the Master, who runs a new group (I prefer Hardliners to Omega Flight) with Witchfire, Persuasion, J. Jaxon Box....

Flightpath07
09-22-2010, 11:01 PM
...let's throw in Earthmover, Ouija, and Feedback, Moke. Rather than have interesting characters from the past "float through limbo" and not be spoken of or used, i'd rather see them pop up as part of a larger villainous team. Maybe Brain Drain, too?

DelBubs
09-23-2010, 07:57 PM
When I think of classic AF villians I immediately think Great Beasts. Others that I would like to see return one way or another are Pestilence, Dreamqueen, Master and Diablo. I know Diablo is mainly a FF foe, but he has some history with AF, maybe give someone an excuse to resurrect Gilded LIly :-)

DIGGER
09-23-2010, 11:37 PM
...let's throw in Earthmover, Ouija, and Feedback, Moke. Rather than have interesting characters from the past "float through limbo" and not be spoken of or used, i'd rather see them pop up as part of a larger villainous team. Maybe Brain Drain, too?

WTF happened with Earthmover? Did he "go bad" and I just missed it? I need to know!

DIGGER

Flightpath07
09-24-2010, 03:53 AM
WTF happened with Earthmover? Did he "go bad" and I just missed it? I need to know!

DIGGER

Nope. What happened with him? Absolutely...nothing.

And that's my point. "Hel-lo! Marvel execs? is anybody there?"

As i stated above, Digger; "Rather than have interesting characters from the past 'float through limbo' and not be spoken of or used, i'd rather see them pop up as part of a larger villainous team."

Better a villain and actually acknowledged and used, than a hero that never does any hero-ing.

kozzi24
09-25-2010, 06:13 PM
Tech-Noir, Brain-Drain, Miss Mass, Strongarm, Sinew and Bile?


This team was for me the absolute worst aspect of Simon Furman's otherwise enjoyable run. Brain Drain was pre-existing and was the most interesting of the lot. All derivitive characters, expecially Miss Mass from Pink Pearl and Bile from Pestilence. Then there's an ultra-90's hot cyborg chick and pretty forgettable token strong character and token beserker.

And the team Furman created for the Northstar LS was just as bad for me, for the same reason as the original Gamma Flight: Look, a team custom made for Alpha to kick their buts: big hairy creature for Sasquatch, twins for the twins, guy in tech suit to fight Guardian....

Some of the villains are best forgotten.

Le Messor
09-25-2010, 07:52 PM
Brain Drain was pre-existing and was the most interesting of the lot. All derivitive characters, expecially Miss Mass from Pink Pearl and Bile from Pestilence. Then there's an ultra-90's hot cyborg chick and pretty forgettable token strong character and token beserker...
And the team Furman created for the Northstar LS was just as bad for me, for the same reason as the original Gamma Flight: Look, a team custom made for Alpha to kick their buts: big hairy creature for Sasquatch, twins for the twins, guy in tech suit to fight Guardian....
Some of the villains are best forgotten.

Actually, what 'annoys' me about the ones you've just listed is that they are so very forgettable... so I guess it works out! Yay!

- Le Messor
Xander: "Here's your cup of coffee, brewed from the finest Colombian lighter fluid."
Giles: "Thank you." Giles takes a sip. "Horrible." Takes another sip.

Xander: "Aren't you supposed to be drinking tea anyway?"
Giles: "Tea is soothing. I wish to be tense."
Xander: "Okay. But you are destroying a perfectly good cultural stereotype here."

jay042
09-27-2010, 02:27 AM
Weapon PRIME was the Liefeldian re-imagining of Alpha Flight, so there's your problem right there. Furman was just following the unfortunate trend.

The earlier comments about Delphine Courtney and whether she could come back make me wonder a bit about her origin. She was an enigma that really was never properly answered. Who created her? Was it Roxxon? Conceivably there could be another copy of her somewhere.

Roxxon itself might be a good option for villains, we know they had an interest in the Guardian suit technology, maybe that's a thread that could be revived.

Flightpath07
09-27-2010, 06:15 AM
Who created her? Was it Roxxon? Conceivably there could be another copy of her somewhere.

I agree with you, but just on principle just the word "copy" makes me nervous - think what sort of hysterics it sends Marvel into! (Although, truth be told, they created this mess by allowing things to happen in Volume 3 that never should have passed by the editors...)

What is amusing to me is that the main thing that Marvel and Alpha Flight have in common is creating their own "worst"s - Alpha Flight creates its own worst villains, while Marvel creates its own worst problems with some of the crap they put out and then they blame it on the characters or on the fans!

Le Messor
09-27-2010, 04:42 PM
... then they blame it on the characters or on the fans!

There's this whole trend for creators and companies and other fans to make fun of 'fanboys', especially anyone who gets passionate about their comics.

Isn't that the point? Isn't that the whole point of comics, to create characters we care about? So why get mad at us when it works?

- Le Messor
"I can't call this guy 'Batman' anymore. From now on, I'll call him Crazy Steve."
- Linkara, reviewing Frank Miller's All Star Crazy Steve and Dick Grayson, Age Twelve (http://atopfourthwall.blogspot.com/2009/11/all-star-batman-and-robin-1-and-2.html)...
I mean, All Star Batman and Robin

suzene
09-27-2010, 05:10 PM
There's this whole trend for creators and companies and other fans to make fun of 'fanboys', especially anyone who gets passionate about their comics.

Isn't that the point? Isn't that the whole point of comics, to create characters we care about? So why get mad at us when it works?

An excess of defensiveness stemming from a sublimated self-loathing, perhaps -- resentment and embarrassment that they're "just" writing comics instead of a more respected literary field. I notice a lot less of this attitude in people who are coming into comics from other fields as opposed to the "professional fans" like Joe Quesada.

Le Messor
09-27-2010, 05:46 PM
An excess of defensiveness... resentment and embarrassment that they're "just" writing comics instead of a more respected literary field...

Hmm... That's a new thought.
I'd always figured it was defensiveness over getting 'caught out' tearing apart 'our' characters, or giving us in-name-only garbage and telling us to like it (because it has that name), but you make a good point.

- Le Messor
"He's suffering from Anal-Cranial Inversion!"

suzene
09-27-2010, 06:35 PM
Hmm... That's a new thought.
I'd always figured it was defensiveness over getting 'caught out' tearing apart 'our' characters, or giving us in-name-only garbage and telling us to like it (because it has that name), but you make a good point.

When Joey Q took over as EIC, he addressed himself to a bunch of comic book retailers -- his company's primary customers -- in a talk that essentially lead off with, "Look, I know we're all embarrassed to be working in comics..."

There's not enough :rolleyes: in the world to cover that.

cmdrkoenig67
09-27-2010, 10:19 PM
This team was for me the absolute worst aspect of Simon Furman's otherwise enjoyable run. Brain Drain was pre-existing and was the most interesting of the lot. All derivitive characters, expecially Miss Mass from Pink Pearl and Bile from Pestilence. Then there's an ultra-90's hot cyborg chick and pretty forgettable token strong character and token beserker.

I wasn't a big fan of them or anything...I was just merely suggesting more possibilities for building a villain cast. I went for characters they've faced before.


And the team Furman created for the Northstar LS was just as bad for me, for the same reason as the original Gamma Flight: Look, a team custom made for Alpha to kick their buts: big hairy creature for Sasquatch, twins for the twins, guy in tech suit to fight Guardian....

Some of the villains are best forgotten.

As Jay mentioned...Those are Rob Liefeld characters (Weapon P.R.I.M.E.)...Although, Arcade's villainous crew was laaaamme!

Dana

cmdrkoenig67
09-27-2010, 10:23 PM
There's this whole trend for creators and companies and other fans to make fun of 'fanboys', especially anyone who gets passionate about their comics.

Isn't that the point? Isn't that the whole point of comics, to create characters we care about? So why get mad at us when it works?

- Le Messor
"I can't call this guy 'Batman' anymore. From now on, I'll call him Crazy Steve."
- Linkara, reviewing Frank Miller's All Star Crazy Steve and Dick Grayson, Age Twelve (http://atopfourthwall.blogspot.com/2009/11/all-star-batman-and-robin-1-and-2.html)...
I mean, All Star Batman and Robin

I totally agree, Mik...That's a very good point.

Dana

DIGGER
09-28-2010, 10:36 PM
When Joey Q took over as EIC, he addressed himself to a bunch of comic book retailers -- his company's primary customers -- in a talk that essentially lead off with, "Look, I know we're all embarrassed to be working in comics..."

There's not enough :rolleyes: in the world to cover that.

I sure hope Joey Q was a'dressed when he talked to a bunch of retailers otherwise that could have been a nightmare for everyone! Regarding Courtney, didn't Jeffries turn her inside out? Jackson could make a comeback as the brain housed in a new Courtney model though because I don't think we ever found out what happened to him after the Box robot was shorted out in issue 12 (at least not to my recollection).

DIGGER

Flightpath07
09-29-2010, 04:18 AM
Jackson could make a comeback as the brain housed in a new Courtney model

Oh my...I hope you are referring to Jaxon, and not Michael Jackson.

(although, come to think of it...nah, i ain't gonna go there...)

ClawMaraud
09-29-2010, 10:30 AM
Well, there's an idea. Michael Jackson, taken as a template for a villain, would be pure genius. Most would agree that a child molestor would be amongst some of the worst villainous endeavours.

Le Messor
09-29-2010, 04:54 PM
When Joey Q took over as EIC, he addressed himself to a bunch of comic book retailers -- his company's primary customers -- in a talk that essentially lead off with, "Look, I know we're all embarrassed to be working in comics..."

And here I was just annoyed at him for his 'tude about Alpha Flight.
Turns out, he's a jerk.

Still, that does explain a lot about how comics, especially Marvel, are going these days.

- Le Messor
Calvin: Hey Hobbes, what's a "paper tiger"?
Hobbes: It's like a paper boy. You know, a tiger with a newspaper route.
Calvin: Oh. This book makes no sense at all.

DIGGER
09-29-2010, 11:29 PM
Oh my...I hope you are referring to Jaxon, and not Michael Jackson.

(although, come to think of it...nah, i ain't gonna go there...)

Yeah, yeah I really meant to spell it Jaxon. It couldn't be M.J. because then he would have to come out of hiding because he really isn't dead. The photos they showed on t.v. and in all the papers clearly show a wax dummy it didn't look like a real person at all. Sorry F.P., I went there so you don't have to.

DIGGER

Flightpath07
09-30-2010, 04:50 AM
Well, there's an idea. Michael Jackson, taken as a template for a villain, would be pure genius. Most would agree that a child molestor would be amongst some of the worst villainous endeavours.

To be fair, nobody has proved he molested any children. He definitely seemed to feel like he was still a child himself; very messed up, I'll give you that. Money doesn't buy happiness. Or sanity.

BTW, if he really DID molest children, and their parents knew it and took the money rather than following thru with the courts and stopping him from ever doing that to anybody else...then who is worse, the parents or MJ? My money is on a tie.

Phil
09-30-2010, 01:06 PM
Let's step cautiously on this one and move back to the fictional world of Alpha Flight Villains...

ClawMaraud
09-30-2010, 01:44 PM
I just think that villains should be more like ones we would hate because what they do is so reprehensible.

I made up a villainous kind of character named Block ... who is somewhat a take on the character Box ... The person in the suit is STUCK in it though ... and uses victims to POWER him up by sucking them into a cavity in the body of the suit. When he is done with (what would be a dried out husk of the victim) he expels them and grabs another victim. Human batteries. They are not all copper top people though. Ha Ha Ha?

Sorry. I am still not (really) on topic here.

DIGGER
09-30-2010, 09:21 PM
I guess gone are the days when a villain would show up, rob a bank or try to take over the world (REFERENCE TO PINKY AND THE BRAIN---A CLASSIC!). Now it seems that we need to have homicidal maniacs as villians. How I yearn for thew good ol' days.

DIGGER

ClawMaraud
09-30-2010, 10:27 PM
I have got nothing on Marvel

Went looking up this Mauvais fella online. http://marvel.com/universe/Mauvais A nasty bit of work ... living off of living flesh. I assume in this bio they mean the person is alive when eaten. I must have missed this nasty bad boy when reading Alpha Flight many years ago Brutal stuff ... almost right out of the Creepshow horror genre.

Hmmm. Halloween is just around the corner.

DIGGER
09-30-2010, 11:23 PM
F.Y.I. Mauvais showed up in Wolverine a couple of years back not in Alpha Flight.

DIGGER

cmdrkoenig67
10-01-2010, 12:31 PM
...And Alpha Flight guest-starred in the story.

Dana

Tawmis
11-10-2010, 08:09 PM
- The Master. I think the Master needs some serious treatment to put him on the level of the likes of Magneto. The fact that he got some action in AVENGERS awhile back helps (and should be followed up, so that it can reference AVENGERS to show him as a more universal villain).

- Omega Flight. The original Omega Flight was awesome. It reminded me very much of Uncanny X-Men #121 where the X-Men first encountered Alpha Flight. There seemed to be a one off for each character. Definitely loved the original Omega Flight. Though I would not like to see Diamond Lil return to the villain side, as she got a ton of development as a hero later.

- Pestilence. While I disliked the end result of his storyline (the death of Snowbird), I thought he had an interesting origin and made for an interesting villain.

- Dream Queen. Would love to see a lot more of her. With as many mystics as there is on Alpha Flight at any given time (Talisman, Shaman, Snowbird) - she could be put to some good use.

- Witchfire. She got some great coverage in the recent MAGIK series, and they really kicked her up a notch. I would like to see her take on Alpha Flight and kick some serious arse, as she was shown in MAGIK being able to do.

- The Great Beasts. While they set up Alpha Flight to come back together (in issue #1), I wouldn't want to see them too frequently. (Sort of like how Loki may be responsible if you will for starting the Avengers coming together; he's not a common villain against the Avengers themselves; not even when Thor is on the team).

- Wrecking Crew. I would like to see them come back for more action (after Acts of Vengeance). They're fun for a smash'em up story. Heck, they could even come back because of their encounter with the newest Omega Flight (which included the likes of Beta Ray Bill).

New Villains:

- Graviton: As many mentioned, he's just an awesome villain. Alpha Flight fighting him with echos of Avengers #159 would be awesome.

There's others I am sure, they're just slipping my mind...

kozzi24
11-11-2010, 01:28 PM
[QUOTE=Tawmis;75539]- - Graviton: As many mentioned, he's just an awesome villain. Alpha Flight fighting him with echos of Avengers #159 would be awesome.

[QUOTE]

Alpha doesn't need the Avengers for that one...Graviton's Canadian.

Tawmis
11-12-2010, 08:11 PM
[QUOTE=Tawmis;75539]- - Graviton: As many mentioned, he's just an awesome villain. Alpha Flight fighting him with echos of Avengers #159 would be awesome.
[QUOTE]
Alpha doesn't need the Avengers for that one...Graviton's Canadian.

Aye, what I mean is AVENGERS #159 is epic. Graviton does some amazing things - like lift a chunk of NYC. And he - single handedly - seems to smack the AVENGERS around. This is very much like what Magneto has done with the X-MEN that's made him such a great villain. He's powerful. He's smart. He's dangerous. AF needs someone like that (and that's why I think MASTER needs to be treated this way) - someone who pulls off some CRAZY things single handedly - and really smacks AF around, to show what a threat the person is - and then have AF come back and win. But they need to be big, bad, intelligent... someone to be respected.

Flightpath07
11-13-2010, 06:25 AM
I could live with Graviton being a major Alpha villain.

Wait, I just re-read that sentence, and I HOPE nobody reads that as "Flightpath wants to be roommates with Graviton, because Flightpath is a major Alpha villain"... hehe

Le Messor
11-21-2010, 05:49 AM
Your hopes are in vain!

Everybody dogpile on Flightpath!

- Le Messor
"Merci pour noter mon sig."
- modified from a t-shirt I saw today.

Flightpath07
11-21-2010, 07:44 AM
Everybody dogpile on Flightpath!

"I'll be okay in a minute..." - Lower Backpain Man (gratuitous Earthworm Jim cartoon show quote)

Wildcard
11-25-2010, 11:09 PM
With all the issues Canada has been having with Russia over the Arctic Circle, I think a skirmish or two against the Winter Guard would be interesting.

Tawmis
11-26-2010, 12:55 AM
With all the issues Canada has been having with Russia over the Arctic Circle, I think a skirmish or two against the Winter Guard would be interesting.

The potential would be awesome.

URSA Major vs Sasquatch
Crimson Dynamo vs Guardian/Heather
Darkstar vs Aurora
Vanguard or Red Guardian vs Vindicator/Mac

ClawMaraud
11-26-2010, 01:23 AM
With all the issues Canada has been having with Russia over the Arctic Circle, I think a skirmish or two against the Winter Guard would be interesting.

Don't forget - The USA are being pricks about Canada's sovereignty when it comes to the Arctic Circle. Norway and Denmark claim to have dibs as well. There be a LOT of potential oil resources down deep in that shallow ocean. Some claim that it might be up to 25 percent of the worlds oil reserves. Makes me angry we in Canada are not protecting our lands as we should.

Yes, still an interesting idea, to get the two teams on each others' case. :D

ClawMaraud
11-26-2010, 01:52 AM
The potential would be awesome.

URSA Major vs Sasquatch
Crimson Dynamo vs Guardian/Heather
Darkstar vs Aurora
Vanguard or Red Guardian vs Vindicator/Mac

Just got a look at URSA Major on a google search. Holy! Sasquatch would be torn to pieces by him. We do not need another dead Alphan.

Le Messor
11-26-2010, 04:14 AM
We had a story like that in Crossing Lines (an Avengers story). Well, they met there anyway.

- Le Messor
"I am loyal to my employer at all costs ... Please feel free to respond to my resume on my office voice mail."
~ apparently from a job application.

Wildcard
11-27-2010, 12:22 AM
Please correct me if Im wrong but the Winter Guard mini series also sold rather well. Things of that nature would be good for Alpha sales as fans of the WG woud pick up the issues as well, much like AF fans buy issues with them appearing.

Could also have Alpha work with MI6 in England since we're strong allies with them and our commonwealth and all that entails. Also might be a cool way of having Alpha more involved in the Marvel Universe without the obvious X-Men and Avenger team ups. I think it would be pretty cool to see Guardian back to back with Captain Britain beating on an overwhelming amount of baddies.