Am I missing something?

[Tawmis]

So wait... It wasn't Mac, who we all know and love who died at the Collective's hand apparently? (Which means Mac saying the last thing he remembers is a naked man, incorrect...) At least according to the Wiki...

"Alpha Flight (Sasquatch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sasquatch_%28comics%29), Major Mapleleaf II (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_Mapleleaf), Puck Jr. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puck_%28comics%29), and the time-displaced versions of Guardian, Vindicator (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vindicator_%28comics%29), Shaman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaman_%28comics%29), and Puck (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puck_%28comics%29)) is brutally attacked by The Collective (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xorn).[6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guardian_%28Marvel_Comics%29#cite_note-5) Their bodies are left in the Yukon Territory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yukon_Territory) as the Collective continues on to the United States. The time-displaced Guardian was later confirmed dead by Sasquatch, while the original Guardian is presumably still on the Plodex homeworld with the other members of Alpha Flight."

[MistressMerr]

I'm guessing there was some wishful thinking going on when that was written.

[Phil]

Wikipedia, Schmickipedia.

[Ben]

that was all dealt with in one simple line in CW:AF. When Sas mentioned AF having come back from space and "setting everything right". I took that as AF went to space in vol.3 The time displaced versions were kicking around 'till AF got back from space and sent them back to thier own time. Then they ran into Pointer, got killed...and you know the rest.

[Tawmis]

that was all dealt with in one simple line in CW:AF. When Sas mentioned AF having come back from space and "setting everything right". I took that as AF went to space in vol.3 The time displaced versions were kicking around 'till AF got back from space and sent them back to thier own time. Then they ran into Pointer, got killed...and you know the rest.

But that would mean, if it was the Space AF (as we will call them) - ran into Pointer and died. Then why is Mac, in CW:AF saying that the last thing he remembers is a naked man (who I assume to be Pointer?) Mac wouldn't have remembered that since it would have been the Space AF team, right?

[Ben]

not quite "Space Alpha Flight" is the real deal. K here is the series of events:



The Real Alpha Flight is captured by the Plodex
Sasquatch and his merry band of missfits free them
Alpha Flight goes to space to take the plodex eggs home
Time Displaced Alpha Flight is brought on the scene to fill thier shoes.
The Real Alpha Flight comes back from space
Time Displaced Alpha Flight goes away
Real Alpha Flight is killed by the Collective (Pointer)
Sasquatch makes a deal with the Great Beasts and Real Alpha Flight members are back from the dead.

[Tawmis]

not quite "Space Alpha Flight" is the real deal. K here is the series of events:


The Real Alpha Flight comes back from space
Time Displaced Alpha Flight goes away



Okay, did Time Displaced AF go away in an issue or off panel?

[Ben]

They went away off panel. There has never been any actual reference to them since Vol.3. The rest of the world pretended it never happened. Sasquatch comment about AF coming back from space was a neat implication as to how it all got cleaned up.

[Garry/Al-Fan]

And the main reason why I think the conciseness of it should be appreciated: the point is not belabored. Walt states what happened and moves on (because of immediate events, true, but he doesn't belabor the point). Trying to tie up the "continuity" so EVERYTHING makes perfect sense is a losing proposition. Let's just accept Walt at his word and move on. Quickly.

[Tawmis]

And the main reason why I think the conciseness of it should be appreciated: the point is not belabored. Walt states what happened and moves on (because of immediate events, true, but he doesn't belabor the point). Trying to tie up the "continuity" so EVERYTHING makes perfect sense is a losing proposition. Let's just accept Walt at his word and move on. Quickly.

Which I am absolutely cool with! I was just confused. Because of the off panel portion. I couldn't wrap my head around when that might have happened. I have read V1 about ten to twenty times, read volume 2 about ten times, read v3... once.

So wasn't sure if it happened in V3... and I just wasn't remembering it.

[cmdrkoenig67]

Yeah...Lobdell bringing in temporal copies of the original team at the end of Volume Three made many an Alpha Flight fan bang their heads against walls.

Dana

[Tawmis]

Yeah...Lobdell bringing in temporal copies of the original team at the end of Volume Three made many an Alpha Flight fan bang their heads against walls.

Dana

Well to be fair... I bet he was trying to make ALPHA fans happy by "restoring" the original ALPHA FLIGHT team with a "clean start."

[Ben]

honestly, I don't know if he was trying to make them happy, or if he was thumbing his nose at them/us for all the complaining about wanting the real AF, not his new team.

[Tawmis]

honestly, I don't know if he was trying to make them happy, or if he was thumbing his nose at them/us for all the complaining about wanting the real AF, not his new team.

Well even if he was thumbing at us... by hand delivering what we want, in the end, isn't a very good way to say, "Screw you!"

[Phil]

It was definitely the former. In his head we'd all have loved it.
Scott & I got to talking on AIM quite a lot part way through Vol.3 and I remember him telling me 'I've just handed in the script for #12. The final page is gonna make a lot of Alpha Flight fans happy!' [sic]
I remember looking at #12, and seeing the page that he meant (presumably before it ended at 12 and was bumped back a few pages) and just holding my head in my hands.
If only he'd actually told me what it was I would have warned him.
Still though, I have no idea how that got accepted by editorial...

[Le Messor]

Phil, I remember you telling us about it at the time.

It, uh, didn't make us happy when we read it.

I don't get the impression that editorial are all that detailed in how they examine the books.

- Le Messor
Oz: I can see why you would be upset. Oh, that was my sarcastic voice.
Xander: You know, it sounds a lot like your regular voice.
Oz: I've been told that.