What is is the best non-Byrne Alpha story.....

[Hankpym]

I think we can all agree that Byrne's Alpha Flight is the best.

Question....what do you think the best non-byrne story was?

Mine is in Wolverine. The Wendigo, Mauvias story by Frank Tieri. I thought those issues were a good representation of the team.

[Mokole]

I liked Furman and Seagle's takes.

[suzene]

Chaos War: Alpha Flight. ;)

[Flightpath07]

I dunno, but I hope that McCann and Oeming are keeping close eyes on how well FVL and Pak do...if they decide to leave the series (yes, it'll be an ongoing, it will) after four or five years, we need a competent Alpha-lover lined up ready to replace!

[MistressMerr]

I dunno, but I hope that McCann and Oeming are keeping close eyes on how well FVL and Pak do...if they decide to leave the series (yes, it'll be an ongoing, it will) after four or five years, we need a competent Alpha-lover lined up ready to replace!
Man, what I wouldn't give for Oeming to write and draw an Alpha story, Byrne-style. I don't think his art would be a good fit for an ongoing, but a one-shot or backup stories like he did for Avengers Classic would make my life.

As to the topic at hand: Nicieza's run and Lobdell's first run were pretty solid for the most part, awful art aside. The Chaos War one-shot was fantastic. And I, for one, really liked Omega Flight.

Best single story, though? X-Men/Alpha Flight: The Gift.

[Phil]

Best single issue story?
Either Marvel Team Up Annual #7 or Chaos War:Alpha Flight.

Best in-series story?
Furman's run.

Best Guest Appearance/Cameo?
Wolverine #172.

[Flightpath07]

I'd throw Omega Flight # 1 into the mix. Even though it was Omega Flight and not Alpha Flight, Oeming did such a wonderful job treating the dead Alphans with respect, and he really did a heck of a job with the characterization of Sasquatch/Walter. As much as I hated what Marvel did to Oeming's work by suddenly making it a mini on him, we owe him a lot of respect for what he wanted to accomplish.

As far as what storyline in Alpha did i like best? Well, I hated and loved (both at the same time) the death of Mac in issue 12. But what REALLY got me interested in AF was when they semed to bring Mac back, but it ended up being Delphine Courtney; that one had my eyes glued to the pages.

I also really enjoyed the visuals of the fight scene in West Edmonton Mall.

Sorry, it is hard to NOT pick a Byrne story, lol.

[Hankpym]

The chaos war one shot was awesome....that and everything Byrne.

I loved how Nicieza broght back Mac....I actually had that idea for years before it happened. What I hated is that he brought him back again just to kill him???? I wonder why he did that.

I liked Oeming's Omega Flight in theory. I hated how he made Sasquatch get destroyed by the wrecking crew. Writers seem to forget how powerful Sasquatch is supposed to be.

[Phil]

Ahh... I have to disagree with you there... I think the Nicieza run is probably my least favourite of all 3 volumes, I hated the Mac rebirth/not-dead in the first place. Today anyway. It might dislike Vol.3 more tomorrow.

[Hankpym]

Worse than Mantlo???? Cannot be!!

[Phil]

For all Mantlo's faults and disrespect of Byrne's work, I found his stories more entertaining than Nicieza's....

[Tawmis]

I hated how he made Sasquatch get destroyed by the wrecking crew. Writers seem to forget how powerful Sasquatch is supposed to be.

Uh, the Wrecking Crew gives THOR a run for his money...

So yeah, sorry, Walt's probably going to get the tar beat out of him. Especially by all four of them. :)

[Le Messor]

For all Mantlo's faults and disrespect of Byrne's work, I found his stories more entertaining than Nicieza's....

Yeah, I'm sorry everybody, but I agree with Phil. More good came out of Mantlo's run (well, the DreamQueen did) than Nicieza.
I've decided Nicieza is a good writer when he loves what he's doing, but I suspect he takes a lot of work he doesn't care about, and it shows. He keeps showing up on Linkara's show (he only reviews bad comics), prompting Linkara to "tell him" 'Stop showing up! You're not a bad writer!'

I like a lot of Hudnall's run... #75 is a stand-out for me.
'The Gift' is also my favourite single story (like Mistress Mer).

- Le Messor
"I have not failed, I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
~ Thomas Eddison

[suzene]

Best single story, though? X-Men/Alpha Flight: The Gift.

Changing my vote. I love that story -- I don't know how I always seem to forget it when it comes to these discussions.

[cmdrkoenig67]

I had no idea what to say until X-Men/Alpha Flight was mentioned....yeah, that's one of my faves. I also agree with hankpym, The Wolverine Mauvais story (by Tieri in issues #171-173), guest-starring Alpha was pretty cool. I also loved Logan's visit to Heather and Puck in Wolverine# 76-77 (where they battle Lady Deathstrike at Heather's house) and Mac and Heather's team-up with Logan against the Hunters in The Night in Wolverine #83-84 (all those issues were by Larry Hama, who wrote some really amazing stories in this series). Actually, Heather and Mac also appear in issue# 95 (I guess Larry Hama used Alpha in Wolverine more than Tieri did...Interesting).

Dana

[-K-M-]

Uh, the Wrecking Crew gives THOR a run for his money...

So yeah, sorry, Walt's probably going to get the tar beat out of him. Especially by all four of them. :)

It was also revealed in the handbooks and interviews the Crew was amped when they fought Walter.

[Powersurge]

Wow.

Claremont's. :)

[Phil]

Ahh... I have to disagree with you there... I think the Nicieza run is probably my least favourite of all 3 volumes, I hated the Mac rebirth/not-dead in the first place. Today anyway. It might dislike Vol.3 more tomorrow.

Yeah, re-reading I've decided Lobdell's Vol.1 run is my least favourite today.
I like Alpha taking on Galactus.

Tomorrow I'll like part of what Lobdell did with Wildchild/Weapon Omega though... *shrugs*

[Flightpath07]

Tomorrow I'll like part of what Lobdell did with Wildchild/Weapon Omega though

Then it must always be tomorrow in my world :)

[Le Messor]

Then it must always be tomorrow in my world :)

It really is in mine, compared to most of you.

[kozzi24]

Faborite non-Byrne story?
In-series, #29, the fight with the Hulk. That great issue made Mantlo's other work more disappointing.
Favorite of everything is definiely The Gift.

[Garry/Al-Fan]

Chaos War: Alpha Flight Walter finally conveys the importance of being a part of the original team and has some of his confidence back. The Beasts really put the Flight in a bind, but Snowbird, Shaman, and Northstar help reveal how insidious the plot is. Heather and Mac both show good leadership skills, and Walter doesn't forget about their baby. It's good to see Marrina back, even if she starts to turn into a monster. Aurora has gumption, fighting thrall-gods, surrounded by Wendigoes, in the midst of manifesting Beasts.

The only thing that could've made it better was Puck and Talisman.

[DIGGER]

Chaos War: Alpha Flight Walter finally conveys the importance of being a part of the original team and has some of his confidence back. The Beasts really put the Flight in a bind, but Snowbird, Shaman, and Northstar help reveal how insidious the plot is. Heather and Mac both show good leadership skills, and Walter doesn't forget about their baby. It's good to see Marrina back, even if she starts to turn into a monster. Aurora has gumption, fighting thrall-gods, surrounded by Wendigoes, in the midst of manifesting Beasts.

The only thing that could've made it better was Puck and Talisman.

I too loved the one shot (just wish it hadn't felt so rushed-could have been due to the excitement of reading a new Flight story though). THE GIFT was great too. Look at me sitting on the fence.
BTW is the past tense for a Wendigo a Wendiwent or a Wendiwas?

DIGGER

[MistressMerr]

I too loved the one shot (just wish it hadn't felt so rushed-could have been due to the excitement of reading a new Flight story though). THE GIFT was great too. Look at me sitting on the fence.
BTW is the past tense for a Wendigo a Wendiwent or a Wendiwas?

DIGGER
Wendigone.

[Flightpath07]

Wendidead. Or X-Wendigo.

Or Wheredigo.

[Le Messor]

The fur don't come into it! That wendigo has shuffled off this mortal coil! The only reason it stayed on its perch is because you nailed it there!

[Phil]

Or X-Wendigo.

That's next years Marvel event, hot on the heels of Zombies, Apes & Hulks.

[Flightpath07]

The fur don't come into it! That wendigo has shuffled off this mortal coil! The only reason it stayed on its perch is because you nailed it there!

Yet another Python reference...

[DaVeO]

I'll go along with The Gift as well for faves. After reading that I would have been tickled if Claremont took over AF when Byrne left. He had a good voice for them.

[DIGGER]

that's next years marvel event, hot on the heels of zombies, apes & hulks.

oh my!

Digger