The Avengers Movie sans spoilers

[Le Messor]

I wasn't sure if this should go here or in 'Other Comics', so I put it in the cupboard.
I thought we should open up a thread about the movie. A spoiler-free one.

I can't review it - there's an embargo on reviews - so here's 12% of a moment:
If you liked the lead up movies, you're gonna love this one.

- Le Messor
"If we make peaceful revolution impossible, we make violent revolution inevitable."
~ John Kennedy

[Flightpath07]

"If you liked the lead up movies, you're gonna love this one."

Meh. It's Marvel, so I ain't interested. I liked Iron man a lot, but the sequel was just okay. Haven't seen either Thor or Captain America, nor do i plan to. I 'might' get around to seeing Avengers, in a year or two, if I feel like it.

[DaVeO]

Oh, I'm pretty excited for Avengers. I mean, it's no Batman but it is what it is. Plus between this and the cartoon I'm seeing the team line ups that I enjoy the most.

[Le Messor]

Meh. It's Marvel, so I ain't interested. I liked Iron man a lot, but the sequel was just okay. Haven't seen either Thor or Captain America, nor do i plan to. I 'might' get around to seeing Avengers, in a year or two, if I feel like it.

Well, that works both ways; if you didn't like the others, you won't like this one. If you're not interested, or not gonna give them a chance, well, you're not.


Oh, I'm pretty excited for Avengers. I mean, it's no Batman but it is what it is. Plus between this and the cartoon I'm seeing the team line ups that I enjoy the most.

I prefer it to the Batmans. But, that's me. Note: the little guys aren't in it. (Ant Man and Wasp)
Yet.

- Le Messor
"If we only wanted to be happy, it would be easy; but we want to be happier than other people, and that is almost always difficult, since we think them happier than they are."
~ Montesquieu

[rplass]

I'm definitely going to see it. I've been enjoying the lead-in movies, so I'm pretty sure I'm going to like this one.

Flightpath07, you should see Thor and Captain America. You'll like both!

[batman_von_gein]

liked the lead up movies. still havent seen capt america but just bought the 3d bluray so ill watch it this week. kinda disappointed hank aint in it. antman/giantman would b awesome on big screen. and i wished hawkeye looked better. not digging the sunglasses to much.

[Le Messor]

kinda disappointed hank aint in it. antman/giantman would b awesome on big screen.

There are rumours around of a scene filmed after the showing I went to; it's possible that it's a Hank Pym reference.

- Le Messor
"If we could all hear one another's prayers, God might be relieved of some of his burden."

[batman_von_gein]

There are rumours around of a scene filmed after the showing I went to; it's possible that it's a Hank Pym reference.

that would be sweet. i use to think the whole antman/giantman wasnt that impressive until i started watched more avengers stuff. was never in to the comics to much. and hank was pretty cool and he uses his powers to a t. hoping vision and wasp show up in the sequel as well.

[Flightpath07]

the showing I went to.

Was it released earlier where you are, or are you a VIP (other than "to us", i mean)?

[Le Messor]

that would be sweet. i use to think the whole antman/giantman wasnt that impressive until i started watched more avengers stuff. was never in to the comics to much. and hank was pretty cool and he uses his powers to a t. hoping vision and wasp show up in the sequel as well.

He's getting his own movie, btw. Or at least it looks that way.


Was it released earlier where you are, or are you a VIP (other than "to us", i mean)?

There was a sneak preview in Sydney. Apparently there were previews around the world.

- Le Messor
"If when you put orange juice in the freezer it becomes frozen, then why when you squeeze an orange isn't it squozen?"

[Jason Eberly]

I am very much excited about The Avengers. It was the second comic I got into back in '83 (after Spider-Man), and was my favorite title for most of the rest of the 80's.

I've also ranged from enjoyed (Incredible Hulk) to thoroughly loved (Captain America) the movies. In fact, I just finished watching the Captain America Blu-ray earlier this evening.

Also, it comes out two days before my birthday and I plan on seeing it in the new IMAX theater here.

[batman_von_gein]

He's getting his own movie, btw. Or at least it looks that way.

i saw that and if done right could be awesome. it has to have wasp in it at least a cameo at the end. but jane has to be in it

[Phil]

PEOPLE,
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE
CAN YOU PUT IN SPOILER SPACE AT THE START OF YOUR POST WHEN DISCUSSING NAMES OR ELEMENTS OF THE FILM, NO MATTER EVEN IF IT'S JUST A RUMOUR.
I've spent the last few years avoiding every trailer, every teaser, every description & every promo image and I've only got 8 days till the film's out.
I really don't want to have to hate this place for spoiling it for me.
Grumpy old man mode finished. I still love you all really.

[Flightpath07]

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Don't make Phil grumpy; you wouldn't like him when he's grumpy.

[Le Messor]

Then Phil's gonna hate me for saying *********** and ************'s knee gets ********, then ***********s his head in!

Wait, I'm breaking up! Agh!

Sorry, Phil. I've been trying not to say anything beyond 'is good', but I think I went further than that.

- Le Messor
"If you always do what you always did, you'll always get what you always got."
~ Anonymous

[Jason Eberly]

I heard that Captain America is a ghost the whole movie that only Iron Man can see, Loki is Hawkeye's father, Black Widow is actually a guy, and Thor is Kaiser Soze.

[Le Messor]

I heard that Captain America is a ghost the whole movie that only Iron Man can see, Loki is Hawkeye's father, Black Widow is actually a guy, and Thor is Kaiser Soze.

Uh, no, I don't know what you've been listening to.

Nick Fury is Kaiser Soze.

[Phil]

*shakes fist*

If it wasn't for those darned kids...

[Le Messor]

They *will* keep meddling!

[Le Messor]

Revu'd it. (http://le-messor.livejournal.com/90675.html)

It's still going for spoiler-free.

- Le Messor
"If you are lonely when you are alone, then you are in bad company."
~ Jean Paul Sartre

[Flightpath07]

At my daughter's insistent urging, I broke down and bought and watched Captain America.

Ugh. Still really detest the character.

But the movie was 'good'. Not great, but good.

On another note (or is that the same note? I'm tone deaf, so it is hard to tell), my favourite part was where the real soldiers mocked him and threw fruit at him; I enjoyed that.

[Le Messor]

That would be a fun part for somebody who doesn't like him.
Now the first part of the party of the first part...
(Del, you wanna take over?)

[batman_von_gein]

thor in 3d was pretty cool. nothing real special about the 3d but still look good

[Le Messor]

I never watch movies in 3D, especially if I know they were converted rather than filmed that way. Which, come to think of it, I don't know about Thor.

My showing of The Avengers tomorrow was advertised as being in 'glorious, comic book-like 2D'! (My first viewing was also 2D, but I don't know if it was advertised that way... in fact, we still didn't even know how many dimensions it had while we were in line in the theatre.)

- Le Messor
"If you ask for a flat white in South Africa, they won't know what you're talking about. – And if you ask for it in Zimbabwe, they give you roadkill."

[Jason Eberly]

That would be a fun part for somebody who doesn't like him.
Now the first part of the party of the first part...
(Del, you wanna take over?)

"...shall be known in this contract as the party of the first part. How do you like that, eh?"

"No that's-a no good."

"What's the matter with it?"

"I don't-a know. Let's hear it again."

"Third Base!"

Wait...I may have gotten my skits crossed there in the end...

[Le Messor]

Thanks! Was going real well until the treasurer and the premier got mixed into it. (Seriously, we have a couple of politicians here in Oz with the names Abbot and Costello...) One day to go! 'til my second viewing of the movie. - Le Messor "Australia will never acquire a national identity until individual Australians acquire identities of their own." ~ Patrick White

[Jason Eberly]

Thanks! Was going real well until the treasurer and the premier got mixed into it. (Seriously, we have a couple of politicians here in Oz with the names Abbot and Costello...) One day to go! 'til my second viewing of the movie. - Le Messor "Australia will never acquire a national identity until individual Australians acquire identities of their own." ~ Patrick White

So you've got comedians as politicians, while in America we just have a bunch of clowns.

To keep it topic-related...Why is it every time I see Scarlet Johannsen (sp?) as Black Widow, I think she would be perfect as another famous Avenger, Mrs. Peel?

[Le Messor]

To keep it topic-related...Why is it every time I see Scarlet Johannsen (sp?) as Black Widow, I think she would be perfect as another famous Avenger, Mrs. Peel?

(Scarlett Johansson; I had to look it up for my review)
At my first viewing, somebody saw the line and asked what it was about - when somebody told him it was the Avengers movie, he asked if it'd already been made and if it was about spies... after a while I had to step in and explain the difference between The Avengers and The Avengers. Then I mentioned it at work yesterday (after he asked my plans for tomorrow), and had to do it again.

Maybe it'll be easier if we stop calling her Natasha and start calling her Emma?

- Le Messor
"Whose bread I eat, his song I sing."
~ German proverb

[Flightpath07]

I viewed the Green Lantern movie for the first time several hours ago.

Hm. As disappointing as I find some of Marvel's movie work, DC sure does have a long way to go to tell entertaining feature-length films. As much as I enjoy the story of Hal Jordan, this movie was a major diappointment, and i doubt it would turn anybody on to wanting to read Green Lantern comics after having seen it. Ryan Reynolds is a good actor, but seemed to be phoning in his lines for the entire movie, he just wasn't believable. There was a LOT of CGI, and most of it detracted from the movie rather than adding to it, as if it just didn't quite synch properly with the film.

So, if this ends up being a lead-in to a future Justice League movie, they might want to consider re-filming it first. A definite miss.

[Le Messor]

The GL movie was never a lead-in to a JLA.
I found it... okay. Not good, but not terrible, either. Just... okay. At best.
And relentlessly dark grey. What's with all the grey?

The problem was, it should've been great.

- Le Messor
"This movie is average!"
~ Nostalgia Critic, angrily

[batman_von_gein]

i really like the green lantern movie and i started reading the comics bc of it.

[Flightpath07]

i really like the green lantern movie and i started reading the comics bc of it.

I...
:confused: :eek:

:-k :-#

...

[Le Messor]

He started reading DC comics because of a movie. What's confusing about that?
He enjoyed Green Lantern. What's conf--
never mind.

- Le Messor
"If you can spend a perfectly useless afternoon in a perfectly useless manner, you have learned how to live."
~ Lin Yutang

[Phil]

I enjoyed the GL film for what it was.
And let's face it, it was no Elektra or Catwoman.

[Jason Eberly]

I enjoyed the GL film for what it was.
And let's face it, it was no Elektra or Catwoman.

I agree. I enjoyed GL as a purely shallow, no-plot action-y way to kill a couple hours.

I don't need high art with my entertainment (be it movies, comics, or what have you). As long as it's entertaining in some aspect, I am good.

[Le Messor]

I agree. I enjoyed GL as a purely shallow, no-plot action-y way to kill a couple hours.
I don't need high art with my entertainment (be it movies, comics, or what have you). As long as it's entertaining in some aspect, I am good.

Agreed on both counts - and with you, Phil.
And it was no B##### and R####. Or Last Airbender. (movie)

- Le Messor
"The trouble with quotes on the internet is that it's difficult to determine whether or not they are genuine."
~ Abraham Lincoln

[Phil]

Saw Avengers yesterday.

I liked it. Wouldn't go as far to say loved it, but definitely a decent film.

The first hour and a half is... alright... but the last hour is absolutely flawless. It doesn't put a foot wrong.

[Flightpath07]

"The trouble with quotes on the internet is that it's difficult to determine whether or not they are genuine."
~ Abraham Lincoln

Um...

[Flightpath07]

Saw Avengers yesterday.

I liked it. Wouldn't go as far to say loved it, but definitely a decent film.

The first hour and a half is... alright... but the last hour is absolutely flawless. It doesn't put a foot wrong.

Well, that makes up my mind. I was 'toying' briefly with the idea of going and seeing it this weekend. I've recently been turned down for two job postings which i desperately wanted and needed (and deserved), and am feeling a bit cruddy about that, so i was thinking about a quick pick-me-up. I think instead i'll just go for an extra hour of sleep or something.

[Alphan East]

Went to the midnight opening of The Avengers last night with my sons. Simply put, this is not just one of the best superhero movies ever... it is one of the best movies I have ever seen. Period.

[Le Messor]

Glad you liked it! After I started this thread, I realised it wasn't released in North America for a couple of weeks, and I felt a little embarrassed.
Then I remembered, [ Nelson ] Hah! Hah! [ /Nelson ]

- Le Messor
"If you don't like my driving, stay off the sidewalks"

[rplass]

I saw Avengers too! For half-price at a matinee, sweet. Loved it! Especially liked ScarJo and how they made her into a formidable complete kick-ass. It's so easy to ruin a girl superhero, but they got made her very powerful. Also the frakkin cloaked helicarrier was bizzzzoooo, awesome.

Next up should be an Alpha Flight movie.

Love,
rplass

[batman_von_gein]

i saw it the other day and it was bad ass. all the characters were awesome can't wait for the next marvel movie to come out.

[Jason Eberly]

Just saw it for the second time tonight. The first time was in IMAX, and tonight was in the balcony with extra size seats and full meal and bar service brought right to your seat.

I love the balcony.

[Flightpath07]

Watched it tonigth with my daughter. She saw it once already, but this one was different for her because it was in 3D. She admitted after that 2D was better, and I have to say that I found the 3D imaging a bit distracting during fight sequences.

As for the movie:

It was a good movie. I won't go so far as to say great. It was definitely better than both the Thor and Cap (shudder) movies. I enjoyd it, and as a bonus it even made me laugh a few times. Mind you, coming from Joss Whedon, i shouldn't be surprised.

Was it the best movie I have ever seen? Hardly! But, for what it was, it was entertaining. I thought the Hawkeye character really blew, that was a major disappointment. There were also a few slip-ups, like Hawkeye running out of arrows and then next time you see him his quiver is full again, that sort of thing. There was also a line delivered to Dr Banner about him being the only good authority on gamma radiation that i found annoying, as off the top of my head don't both Dr Langkowski and Doc Samson know quite a bit about that subject as well?

Anyhoo. It was better than i expected it to be. Still wouldn't call i great, just 'pretty solid.' After seeing X-Men First Class, everything superhero-y will be judged according to that great movie, and Avengers was definitely a step or two below that.

[Flightpath07]

Incidentally, if Marvel were smart (debatable statement, I know), seing the vampire craze that's been going on for quote a while now, they would have put out a movie featuring Morbius the Living Vampire and Werwwolf-By-Night. The two could have been investigating some occultist thing, both coming ta it from diffrent angles until they cross paths, fight, and then team up to bring the baddies down. Marvel could have then linked it to the Avengers movie plot somehow, and then put out a new comic featuring the two at the same time.

[Le Messor]

I bought the soundtrack CD - album, not score. It was reasonable, a good continuation of previous Marvel movies (because it had a lot of the same bands).

It might have been a bit better if it had had anything to do with the movie!!!
(I knew that when I bought it - for me it's a good compy of reasonably good music I'd never have got otherwise.)

- Le Messor
If you were a poor Indian with no weapons, and a bunch of conquistadors came up to you and asked where the gold was, I don't think it would be a good idea to say, "I swallowed it. So sue me."

[Phil]

Incidentally, if Marvel were smart (debatable statement, I know), seing the vampire craze that's been going on for quote a while now, they would have put out a movie featuring Morbius the Living Vampire and Werwwolf-By-Night. The two could have been investigating some occultist thing, both coming ta it from diffrent angles until they cross paths, fight, and then team up to bring the baddies down. Marvel could have then linked it to the Avengers movie plot somehow, and then put out a new comic featuring the two at the same time.
Or have Blade kill the cast of Twilight...

[Le Messor]

Or have Blade kill the cast of Twilight...

I am the proud owner of a t-shirt with the caption "And then Buffy staked Edward. The end."

[Jason Eberly]

There was also a line delivered to Dr Banner about him being the only good authority on gamma radiation that i found annoying, as off the top of my head don't both Dr Langkowski and Doc Samson know quite a bit about that subject as well?

Going off of memory, in The Incredible Hulk movie, Leonard Samson was only a psychiatrist and didn't have any knowledge of Gamma radiation (and truth be told, even in the comics he's not that brilliant about Gamma Radiation) and at this point Walt doesn't exist in the Marvel Movieverse.

[Le Messor]

Going off of memory, in The Incredible Hulk movie, Leonard Samson was only a psychiatrist and didn't have any knowledge of Gamma radiation (and truth be told, even in the comics he's not that brilliant about Gamma Radiation) and at this point Walt doesn't exist in the Marvel Movieverse.

In the Edward Norton movie, he was a name on a bit of paper in the opening credits. The psychiatrist you refer to was never named in the movie proper (though I think he was credited that way in the closing credits?)... and him being Samson kind of contradicts those opening credits (which lists Leonard Samson under 'known associates' (of Bruce Banner), which the psychiatrist clearly isn't).

So, it's even more confusing than it looks.

The Avengers movie never seemed to acknowledge the larger Marvel Universe, which was one disappointment I had with it.

- Le Messor
"If you were to ask a gorilla, "What would you like for your next evolutionary step?", he would probably answer, "Larger fangs and bigger muscles." He would not say, "I want a larger cranial cavity"."
~ Rudy Rucker