Uncanny X-Force starring....PUCK! [Archive] - AlphaFlight.net

Tiberius Bane

09-17-2012, 03:53 PM

I'm not kidding.

From here: http://www.comicsalliance.com/2012/09/17/im-gonna-write-it-like-i-stole-it-sam-humphries-on-taking/

CA: You mentioned that you feel it's a book with a unique cast. Is it going to be the same group we've seen in Remender's run?

SH: No, it's not. This is not any cast that I think anyone can say they've ever seen before. This is not a classic Wolverine, Rogue, Colossus line-up. It's definitely a new mix of characters thrown together in ways that they really have never encountered each other before.

The group that we start off with right off the bat is Psylocke, Storm, Puck and Spiral, and we have a few more characters joining the group in the first few issues. In my mind, all those characters are wild cards. They're all strong personalities, they're all strong in terms of their powers, they've all got dark secrets and they've all got a rebellious streak. That to me is a really attractive part of the book, being able to balance all those character dynamics at once.

CA: When I think of the most powerful X-Men characters, Puck is definitely one that always comes to mind.

SH: [Laughs] Oh, you sweet talker. Don't lie to me. I think Puck is a character that deserves more love. He's like a Canadian Indiana Jones, he's an adventurer. He's also gone out and faced a lot of dark stuff out in the world, but he does it with this wry sense of humor. He's a guy that despite being short of stature, he always finds a way to kick somebody's ass. That kind of character who has a wit and determination is fun to write, and I think he's going to be a good mix with these other characters in the book who all tend to be super-serious all the time.

Read More: http://www.comicsalliance.com/2012/09/17/im-gonna-write-it-like-i-stole-it-sam-humphries-on-taking/#ixzz26kqNCwWw

Le Messor

09-17-2012, 04:43 PM

...they're all strong in terms of their powers...

I'm liking the way he talks about Puck (as the Canadian Indiana Jones), but "strong in terms of his powers"?

I figure this will start with Marvel Now Uncanny X-Force #1? 'coz I'm gonna have to put it on my SO at my LCS ASAP.
QED.

~ Le Messor
"In times like these, it helps to recall that there have always been times like these."
~ Paul Harvey

-K-M-

09-17-2012, 04:56 PM

Whaaaaa? Im happy he will be getting exposure, but Puck isn't a mutant.

-K-M-

09-17-2012, 04:59 PM

Oh wait Uncanny X-Force, nevermind then. I thought this was the Cable team.

Awesome, I was worried it was that book as that looks bad.
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Here's another article about it, and this book is the "Killers" teaser from a while ago

http://ca.ign.com/articles/2012/09/17/uncanny-x-force-relaunched

-K-M-

09-17-2012, 05:03 PM

I was first worried as I thought it was the Cable X-Force book, but now knowing it's not Im actually excited for this :)

DMK

09-17-2012, 05:33 PM

Yeah, it's for a new Uncanny X-Force relaunching as part of Marvel NOW! As for the powers remark... I wonder if this guy's gonna use the Nicieza power-set? The one that obviously went away but no-one ever mentioned why?

sengsterooney

09-17-2012, 07:16 PM

I read this this morning and now have the biggest grin on my face. THE BIGGEST GRIN!!

Who would have thought, in a month of Sundays, that Puck would feature in an X book?? I am so stoked!

As for Puck not being a mutant -- I think the idea for Marvel NOW is to mix things up a bit and to blur the distinction between the mutant/non-mutant books eg. mutants are now in two Avengers teams...

YAY FOR UNCANNY X-FORCE! :-))))

Flightpath07

09-17-2012, 07:29 PM

As for Puck not being a mutant

As exciting as this news is, and potentially it is VERY exciting, I am tempering my enthusiasm a bit until i see how the series is written and how Puck is handled.

I mean, who knows? Maybe they will ret-con Puck into a mutant with the power to trap evil sorcerers inside of himself? You never know...

“This spins directly out of the events of Rick's run, but it takes the concept of X-Force, the mandate of the book and the characters down a new path with a new focus.”

Here is hoping this means we won’t see Puck wrestling with whether or not to kill a bad guy; in my mind, that option is not one Puck would ever debate, he is not a killer. Of course, the huge "KILLERS" banner gives me much pause; I am hoping the team is just a fan of the band?

“I was a huge X-Men fan growing up, a huge Claremont and Simonson era fan”

This sounds promising. Two good writers to be fans of. And with being a Claremont fan, he should be familiar with the origins of Alpha Flight, so maybe we’ll see them show up on occasion in this book?

“The group that we start off with right off the bat is Psylocke, Storm, Puck and Spiral, and we have a few more characters joining the group in the first few issues.”

The best part about Spiral, is that she is a teleporter, meaning we might see Spiral dropping by AF HQ to pick up Puck for a mission?

-K-M-

09-17-2012, 08:00 PM

I think it will be fine, I read the article after my Puck comment being not a mutant and Spiral isn't a mutant either and she is on the team. So it may be like Uncanny Avengers and joint between the X-Men and Avengers. Either way I'll be picking it up.

Flightpath07

09-17-2012, 08:04 PM

Ah yes. i forgot that Spiral is from another dimension or some such thing. Seeing as how she has almost exclusively been an X-foe over her career (or so it feels), its easy to lose sight of her non-mutancy.

I take that back. Although mainly a resident of Mojoverse, she was originally a human from Earth.

Phil

09-18-2012, 06:01 AM

As an aside, what I really see as encouraging is that in the 12 hours after the announcement, Sam Humphries was on Twitter replying to almost every single fan that tweeted him with questions/congratulations/comments.
Including a potential interview with us, when the book's out.

Phil

09-18-2012, 07:00 AM

I've added a bit more to the article.

Le Messor

09-18-2012, 07:20 AM

Here is hoping this means we won’t see Puck wrestling with whether or not to kill a bad guy; in my mind, that option is not one Puck would ever debate, he is not a killer.

Axshally... and this goes all the way back to Byrne, I believe, he WAS a killer. He promised Mac he wouldn't kill again when he joined Alpha (don't know the exact reference off my head).

So, him killing wouldn't be entirely OOC.

Of course, the huge "KILLERS" banner gives me much pause; I am hoping the team is just a fan of the band?

Look, he's got soul, but he's not a soldier.
He's got ham, but he's not a hamster.

“I was a huge X-Men fan growing up, a huge Claremont and Simonson era fan” This sounds promising.

*Sigh* They always say that. Every single new writer who's written an Alpha book has claimed to be a fan of Byrne's run.
I stopped listening after v3.

Not saying this UXF won't be good - but I am saying that statement means exactly nothing.

~ Le Messor
"In this world, truth can wait; she's used to it."

Flightpath07

09-18-2012, 01:06 PM

but I am saying that statement means exactly nothing

So...as an existential question, what is nothing, exactly?

Le Messor

09-18-2012, 04:31 PM

So...as an existential question, what is nothing, exactly?

It is what I got in answer to that question.

-K-M-

09-18-2012, 07:02 PM

aaaaaaand don't forget

WOLVERINE & THE X-MEN #18 & 19
JASON AARON (W) • NICK BRADSHAW & STEVEN SANDERS (A&C)
Covers by NICK BRADSHAW
• The second year of the most talked-about new X-Book starts here!
• One of the students is on death’s door and the faculty must 1) try to keep them alive and 2) find who did it!
• With one of the teachers on the outs, a new one must be hired. Who will it be?
• Who is the new student at the school?
32 PGS./Rated T …$3.99

So Puck may appear in two books as a regular character.

Flightpath07

09-19-2012, 12:34 AM

"May", yes. Or it could be another Alphan. Maybe Marrina is teaching swimming classes?

Phil

09-19-2012, 05:36 AM

It's unlikely, as UXF is supposed to be a secret covert team that the rest of the world don't know about, so I don't think he'll be flaunting it.
#20's solicit reveals that Storm is the new teacher, so I suppose that as they're on the same team we may see the odd cameo of Eugene hanging at the school.
Remender's run was tied quite closely with W&TX so Humhries run could well be too.

batman_von_gein

09-19-2012, 12:23 PM

i'll have to add this to my list a lcs but i hope they do keep puck the way he always has been and not something to fit better in the story

Flightpath07

09-19-2012, 12:59 PM

i'll have to add this to my list a lcs but i hope they do keep puck the way he always has been and not something to fit better in the story

Hm. Didn't FVL and Pak already change Puck, when they made him all insane and cuckoo?

Phil

09-19-2012, 02:33 PM

I'd imagine that that was to the after-effects of having returned from Hell and whatever The Master's Department H did to him to get him back from there/afterwards (A story I kinda hope Humphries toys with down the line) and that their plan was to sort him out had there been time. (It screwed up Wolverine too, when he returned, to be fair.

He was together by the time Hulk:Mayan Rule came around.

Le Messor

09-19-2012, 04:36 PM

Yes, but as BVG points out, what're the odds of them making their stories follow his character, vs. his twisting his character to say what they want to say?

~ Le Messor
"Insomnia isn't anything to lose sleep over."

rplass

09-19-2012, 10:12 PM

Another article, this time from CBR:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=41085

with some quotes:

While more characters will join as the series progresses, Humphries' initial line up of characters will include Psylocke, Storm, Alpha Flight member Puck, and the six armed sorceress known as Spiral. "This is a line up of haunted, powerful people. You may not want to be in a room with them, but it's a great line up for a comic."Psylocke, Puck, and Spiral have all done morally ambiguous -- and especially in Spiral's case -- down right villainous deeds. Each of these characters would be somewhat at home in a team that tackles morally murky missions like X-Force. Storm, however, has more of an uncompromising reputation so her inclusion in the team might surprise some readers -- but not Humphries. "Listen, Storm is the same woman who ran off in Tokyo and re-emerged looking like a punk rocker from CBGB. She may be a queen, a goddess, a teacher and a leader, but she's still a rebel, and a wild card."
Like Storm, Puck is a veteran of hero teams, but the diminutive adventurer is not a mutant and therefore has never been a member of the X-Men. He's best known as a member of the Canadian super team Alpha Flight and was last seen helping his team mates and the Red Hulk repel an invasion of Earth by the Mayan Gods (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=39272). "Puck is a bad ass. He's like the Marvel Universe Indiana Jones. Despite being small of stature the guy has no problem staring into the dark abyss and responding with a sarcastic jab."

EccentricSage

09-19-2012, 10:23 PM

I'll definitely be checking this out. It's normal for a writer to pay some lip service about the characters they're going to be using, but this reads different. It's such an unexpected mix of characters, and the writer sounds like he knows and loves these characters, like this is a genuine fan wanting to write about a character he's excited about. I appreciate that.

I'm hoping the 'strong powers' part was just poorly worded. When the interviewer teases him, he talks about the strength of Puck as a fighter, the strength of his spirit, and the strength of his wit. He doesn't say anything about 'powers' when elaborating, so I'm hopeful nothing silly will happen to 'power up' puck, because we don't need writers overpowering characters left and right to prove how cool they are.

Flightpath07

09-20-2012, 04:20 AM

He was together by the time Hulk:Mayan Rule came around.

I own those issues, and I respectfully disagree. There is not enough face-time for Puck there, nor does he say enough, for us to actually know that he is now not bat-s*%t crazy anymore. And if he WAS written as NOT crazy in Hulk, that may very well just be because the writer didn't pay enough attention to how he had been previously written, rather than because he had been "cured off panel" or something like that. Which means a future writer of Puck, may then choose to ignore that he seemed to perhaps be cured of the crazies in Hulk, and write him as still crazy anyways. Who knows?

"This is a line up of haunted, powerful people. You may not want to be in a room with them, but it's a great line up for a comic."Psylocke, Puck, and Spiral have all done morally ambiguous -- and especially in Spiral's case -- down right villainous deeds. Each of these characters would be somewhat at home in a team that tackles morally murky missions like X-Force.

I categorically deny that Puck is anything like that. Puck is the glue that holds Alpha Flight together, a true hero, not some dark and twisted patsy that belongs with psychopaths and killers. I have a strong feeling i will be dropping this new series almost as fast as i can read the first few issues.

"Listen, Storm is the same woman who ran off in Tokyo and re-emerged looking like a punk rocker from CBGB..."

Geez! Hello! CBGB's was Ramones territory. Ramones' fans did NOT look like Storm did, they were not THAT sort of punk-rockers. The spikey-haired look started in England, then moved on to LA, before finally catching on with the rest of the world; by that time, Ramones were years past ever playing CBGB's, and the trashy bar was nothing more than a trashy bar again. Aren't the Marvel offices in NYC?! Geez, get the facts about your own city right!

Le Messor

09-20-2012, 06:06 AM

I'll definitely be checking this out. It's normal for a writer to pay some lip service about the characters they're going to be using, but this reads different.

Yes, it does.

I'm hoping the 'strong powers' part was just poorly worded.

Given that what Phil quoted specifically says he's not a mutant, and compares him to Indiana Jones (a non-powered human), I'm going with 'yeah'.

I categorically deny that Puck is anything like that. Puck is the glue that holds Alpha Flight together, a true hero, not some dark and twisted patsy that belongs with psychopaths and killers.

I categorically agree!

CBGB's was Ramones territory...

Never heard of it.
I've heard of the heebee geebees... even had them a couple of times...
And heard of the beehee Bee Gees... No, wait, I haven't.

~ Le Messor
"Inside every big problem is a small problem trying to get out."

Flightpath07

09-20-2012, 06:31 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CBGB

Le Messor

09-20-2012, 06:53 AM

'kthx.

-K-M-

09-20-2012, 06:13 PM

Actually I disagree with you both (not sure if Messor was agreeing or disagreeing), it has been shown several times even way back in Alpha Flight vol.1 he had a dark past. Even after vol.2 he became an alcoholic, formerly a demon inside him and recently got back from Hell.

We know in his past he was a mercenary and has fought in the Tonkin Gulf, has ties to the Russian KGB, fought in Maracaibo. He is friends with Domino and Taskmaster and various other mercenaries. Guy does not have a clean past.

Heck, he led these guys remember?
http://alphaflight.net/showwiki/Outcasts

-K-M-

09-20-2012, 06:14 PM

I think some are over-reacting. Wait and see the issue when it comes out and then judge his personality

Flightpath07

09-20-2012, 11:48 PM

PWalk

09-21-2012, 11:12 AM

I like it, I always thought Judd should be featured in another book say MCP or something. In an X-Book? Sure why not? His history reads like Wolverines in a way lending plenty of history to be explored.

Flightpath07

09-21-2012, 01:21 PM

Um...yeah? Except, some people feel Wolverine's past was better left in the dark, especially with what they have made of it.

Not saying Puck'll be the same. We'll see.

Le Messor

09-21-2012, 04:55 PM

Actually I disagree with you both (not sure if Messor was agreeing or disagreeing), it has been shown several times even way back in Alpha Flight vol.1 he had a dark past.

I think I was disagreeing, and therefor you and I are now agreeing. But how can I know? I'm just (counts on fingers) one guy!

I think some are over-reacting. Wait and see the issue when it comes out and then judge his personality

I think most of us are saying we don't know enough yet to judge. But some of us are reacting to what little we do know.

I don't want to see him revert!
Yes, i intend to both over-react, and wait and see.

Quoted for agreement, then LOLZ!

[QUOTE=PWalk;89027]I like it, I always thought Judd should be featured in another book say MCP or something./QUOTE]

Am I deluded (I mean, more than we thought), or did he already have an MCP story?

~ Le Messor
"Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live in the real world."
~ Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden

Legerd

09-21-2012, 08:37 PM

This sounds hopeful. I think the only way to get a successful AF series is to give the characters more face time, and this is a definite way to do it. As long as he is given equal treatment as the other characters, and not used as comic relief or a punching bag then I'm signing on for this book.

Puck has done some sketchy things in the past--the reason he ended up in Hell--so it's not surprising he would end up on a team like this. However, even with his new I-went-to-Hell-and-all-I-got-was-this-messed-up-personality, I really hope they don't turn him into a soulless murderer. I don't mind him being hardnosed, and willing to do things other heroes aren't, but I don't want him to be running around killing people then heading home to knock back some beers like it's all in a day's work.

I guess it's wait and see.

Flightpath07

09-22-2012, 12:48 AM

Yes, wait and see. So why am i now dreading opening the pages and seeing how he is written, rather than being excited?

Legerd

09-27-2012, 01:50 PM

Yes, wait and see. So why am i now dreading opening the pages and seeing how he is written, rather than being excited?

Because you're an AF fan with as much faith in Marvel as they have earned from their past AF character assassinations.

Flightpath07

09-27-2012, 01:55 PM

Because you're an AF fan with as much faith in Marvel as they have earned from their past AF character assassinations.

At first, I thought my stomach was aching from laughing after i read this. Then i realized it was from sobbing.

Phil

09-29-2012, 04:25 PM

For those who haven't heard of Humphries before, there's a pretty decent interview over at CBR: http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2012/09/conversing-on-comics-with-sam-humphries/

Flightpath07

09-29-2012, 11:35 PM

Chris

10-01-2012, 08:17 PM

Interesting. I own issue 1 of Fanboys vs. Zombies, and really enjoyed it, but never continued with the series; never realized it was this same author. Higher Earth was also one of those series that i was interested in, and very nearly purchased, then backed away for monetary reasons at the time.

As I wait for a new Nova or Guardians of the Galaxy book, I've been looking for other cosmic super hero books from other companies. I almost bought Higher Earth also but when I flipped through the pages, the two main characters reminded me of Cable and Hope so I passed and I've been buying DnA's Hypernaturals instead. Has anyone read Higher Earth? If yes, any good?