Catch the Justice League United wave! (possibly could be spoilery)

[Flightpath07]

Hello, i thought I would re-start this old thread http://alphaflight.net/showthread.php?8805-Justice-League-Canada!/page6 here with a snazzy new title, try to get people talking about Justice League United, with its five part (or is that six part) opening story entitled "Justice League Canada".

I just read issues 0 and 1, and I couldn't be more pleased. So far, the creative team has handled Canada with class and respect.

The team is fun, they are in trouble over their heads right away, and...oh!...the humour!

So far, my only complaint has been that a couple of the panels were drawn with the people far away and tiny, making it a bit hard to see what is actually going on.

Anyone else read these issues, or planning on it? What do you think?

I haven't been this excited about comics since Vindicator burst out of the ground and attacked the X-Men with a maple leaf on his chest! (Well, he didn't actually attack them WITH the maple leaf, but you get the idea...)

I also have seen on Jeff Lemire's twitter account https://twitter.com/JeffLemire that there is a Canadian variant cover to Justice League United issue 1, which i am hoping to eventually track down!

[Flightpath07]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ4Lxiv_Js4&feature=youtu.be

[Flightpath07]

https://twitter.com/dragonguelph/status/466656872775155712/photo/1

[Le Messor]

I haven't been this excited about comics since Vindicator burst out of the ground and attacked the X-Men with a maple leaf on his chest! (Well, he didn't actually attack them WITH the maple leaf, but you get the idea...)

Well, after Superman II, it's good that you specified.

~ Le Messor

[Phil]

I also have seen on Jeff Lemire's twitter account https://twitter.com/JeffLemire that there is a Canadian variant cover to Justice League United issue 1, which i am hoping to eventually track down!

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/05/14/now-issues-2-and-3-of-justice-league-united-get-canadian-covers-too/

[Flightpath07]

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/05/14/now-issues-2-and-3-of-justice-league-united-get-canadian-covers-too/

sweet!

[Le Messor]

The comments thread mentions Alpha Flight. (Somebody called 'Ganymede' says 'Worked for Alpha Flight'; anyone we know? Reference to Guardian's first resurrection?)

~ Le Messor

[Flightpath07]

Ha HA! I have managed to scour the internet (and the internet is a VERY dirty place, so it needs a lot of scouring!) and locate some reasonably-priced issues of the Canadian Variant of Justice League United # 1, with it's big and splashy "Justice League Canada" headline across it!

I have ordered two, one to lovingly handle and ooh and aah over, and one to stash away in my Swiss bank account (which is under my mattress). So excited, I can't wait! I shall promise to add an excited photo of me with my prizes when they arrive.

Anybody who wishes to grab one, head on over to mycomicshop.com and let them hook you up!

[Le Messor]

Is under your mattress any cleaner than where you got them from?

I've shopped with Mycomicshop before, and had a good experience.
I think I recently had an opportunity to go to their B & M store, too (they seem to be attached to a comic shop in Dallas), but it fell through.

~ Le Messor
"Mobius strippers never show you their back side."

[-K-M-]

Yeah I had no issues getting one, my comicbook store ordered only the Canadian variant and they still have lots left.

[Flightpath07]

Yeah I had no issues getting one, my comicbook store ordered only the Canadian variant and they still have lots left.

My LCS says they had to sell fifty issues in order to get any variants shipped to them. Sucks to live in a smaller town, my LCS got no variants; not even close.

[Le Messor]

That's kind of the point of variants - to 'force' retailers to buy many more copies than they need.

It's part of why I hate them so.

[Flightpath07]

It doesn't work. It "forces" me to go and buy them online, but it doesn't "force" my LCS to do anything different.

[Le Messor]

I wouldn't expect it to. I imagine that it does 2 things:
Appeals to really, really motivated completists.
Creates bad blood for everyone else (and some of the above), retailers and fans alike.

[Flightpath07]

On another thread (which i have lost track of temporarily), I promised to post photos of me smiling with my copy of the Canadian Variant of Justice League United issue 1, when it arrived.

Well, it arrived. And so, I will.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kz5eKDbyEic/U42gE3iyoKI/AAAAAAAACWU/3doswHgyGoM/s1600/2share.jpg

VERY happy with it (both of them, as I bought two copies).

[Le Messor]

Congrats!

Also, I notice the tagline: "Gathering to protect the galaxy"... as in, some kind of guardians, perhaps?
Hmm...

[Phil]

That's kind of the point of variants - to 'force' retailers to buy many more copies than they need.

It's part of why I hate them so.

That depends...

There are two types of 'variants' - Retailer Incentives and Alternate Covers.

Alternate Covers cost the retailer exactly the same as the Standard cover, so the retailer doesn't lose out. The ratio of these might be different but tend to be in low numbers (1 in 10, 1 in 50 etc) which tend to be covered by a retailers regular order count (pull list and shelf combined)

Retailer Incentives tend to be the ones that are becoming more common, where if a retailer exceeds their previous order of a specific title/issue by a certain percentage they'll be able to order 1 of these covers at standard price.
Obviously this means that a retailer has to order more copies than they need but there's no forcing; a lot of retailers choose to do this as they know they can mark up the price of the variant to whatever all the other copies have cost them so they've essentially got it for free. This can be a gamble though, but if you check eBay there are always people willing to pay prices for these variants.

I'm a fan of variants, to an extent.

I like having every cover as without them it's almost as if I'm missing a page of the artwork inside the comic; especially if there's an Alphan on it (which is rare these days, thankfully).

However; I do think that the number of variants for each issue, and the regularity of which they occur is stupid.

A new #1, or the start of a new story arc, or a new creative team should have 1 variant, maybe 2 including a sketch or blank cover.
Having these 15 covers for an issue 5 is just strangling the industry...

[Flightpath07]

Congrats!

Also, I notice the tagline: "Gathering to protect the galaxy"... as in, some kind of guardians, perhaps?
Hmm...

Coming as this did, immediately after I watched Ultimate Spider-Man Episode 218, with The Guardians of the Galaxy, it's not too hard to see where you are going with this.

It's a "bit" of a rip-off, I'll give you that. Technically, though, "gathering" and "guarding" are quite different. For instance, to my knowledge there are no games called "Magic the Guarding", nor does Buckingham Palace have "the changing of the gathers"...okay, I admit it, I don't know where I am going with this...

...where is one of those funny cat photos with the saying when you need one, them lolz cats things...

[Phil]

It's definitely 1000000000000000000000% a dig/riff at Marvel, but that's half the fun of the 'Big Two' for me.

[Le Messor]

There are two types of 'variants' - Retailer Incentives and Alternate Covers.

You are right about that difference, and I have no excuse for not accounting for it in my post!
Sorry.


there's no forcing;

Technically, no. Which is why I put the word force in quotes. (I sometimes do account for what I need to account for!) :)


a lot of retailers choose to do this as they know they can mark up the price of the variant to whatever all the other copies have cost them so they've essentially got it for free.

I do remember seeing my LCS selling the Wolverine-With-Canadian-Flag-on-his-face variant for about $50 new.


I like having every cover as without them it's almost as if I'm missing a page of the artwork inside the comic;

This is another part of why I'm against them; it 'forces' (note the quotes!) the fan to buy extra copies of the same book.
I've taken a hard line against it, and decided to only buy for new pages of story - which variant covers are not.


However; I do think that the number of variants for each issue, and the regularity of which they occur is stupid.

I really, really agree. IDW is the worst; they not only have about half a dozen variants for each and every comic they publish, but they advertise them with a checklist inside each copy of that issue!

That said, they do help bring costs down for publishers, especially the indies (like IDW). It's much cheaper for them to sell six copies of #5 than one copy each of #1-6.


It's a "bit" of a rip-off, I'll give you that. Technically, though, "gathering" and "guarding" are quite different.

But "guarding" and "protecting"...?
But...


It's definitely 1000000000000000000000% a dig/riff at Marvel, but that's half the fun of the 'Big Two' for me.

:D Yep!
Remember all the Marvel comics that used to talk about their "Distinguished Competition"?
(Oh, and a Bullpen Bulletins page that celebrated, in all seriousness, Superman's birthday?)

~ Le Messor
"He is not only dull himself; he is the cause of dullness in others."
~ Samuel Johnson

[Flightpath07]

But "guarding" and "protecting"...?

:oops:

[Flightpath07]

It's definitely 1000000000000000000000% a dig/riff at Marvel, but that's half the fun of the 'Big Two' for me.

To be 1000000000000000000000% fair, DC's new JLU team has...

- no talking animals, just an Animal Man
- no walking plants that only say one sentence
- and no green-skinned characters, just a Green Arrow

Totally different.

[Phil]

I'm not saying they're the same; just that that phrase has been chosen very carefully and on purpose because of GOTG.

[Flightpath07]

I'm not saying they're the same; just that that phrase has been chosen very carefully and on purpose because of GOTG.

To your first part; I know. To your second part; probably, but inconclusive to this point.

[Le Messor]

Speaking as somebody who's had Hooked On A Feeling stuck in his head for about a week, I'm inclined to agree with Phil.