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Maybe if it goes they'll have Alpha as guest characters (or do you call them guest stars in a cartoon?).
DIGGER
wow $10 for Alpha Flight #17? Who'd a thunk it!
Sounds like a bad American Anime attempt, though. Just a jaded marketing panel's attempt to cash in on the Manga/Anime/J-rock trend.
Seriously?!? Ugh.
Could be interesting... but whatever.
- Le Messor
"Ignore apathy"
If it was any other company I'd agree, but in Pixar I trust.Quote:
Originally Posted by EccentricSage
Have they done any serious cartoons before? I can't think of any off the top of my head, and I think a superhero thing would need it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil
Then again, a serious CG superhero cartoon... maybe not. Maybe if they play it for laughs it'll be a lot of fun!
- Le Messor
Joel: I'll never forget you.
Wednesday: You won't?
Joel: No, you're too weird.
Wasn't it Pixar that did The Incredibles? (which I think is probably one of if not the best superhero movie ever)
DIGGER
I was thinking about that in writing to this thread - and I thin it was Pixar, yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by DIGGER
- LM
"A wishbone has never taken the place of a backbone."
~ W.G.P.
Megamind from Dreamworks was the best, IMO. That had great comedy but there was also a serious side to it and some dark humor. It's been a long time since I saw Incredibles but I wasn't that impressed. Pixar isn't infallible, they have Cars which is stupid, for example.
It's just the lol look they're Japanese part that has me rolling my eyes. This will be a hard one to pull off.
It's not fully green-lit at this point. And, if Disney is silly enough to think this is a good idea, they lose respect points right off the top (of Walt's cryogenically frozen head).
This article in the link does not ever mention Pixar; is Pixar Disney's one and only animation movie company?
Question: if this gets made, will the Japanese be as offended by the animated-depiction of Japanese people, as I am of Caucasian people in all current Japanese anime?
So creating a fun, family + children friendly film based on an original property rather than re-hashing/remaking an old film, that might get kids into comics is wrong?Quote:
Originally Posted by Flightpath07
Nope, but it states John Lasseter, creator and head of Pixar and Principal Creative Advisor for Disney.Quote:
This article in the link does not ever mention Pixar; is Pixar Disney's one and only animation movie company?
His filmography speaks volumes.
That's kinda a catch 22 loss for them; they make a family full of white people and get accused of racism, they focus on a team of Japanese characters and get accused of racism. They can't really win either way. (And not accusing you of racism, just going by comments on other boards.)Quote:
Question: if this gets made, will the Japanese be as offended by the animated-depiction of Japanese people, as I am of Caucasian people in all current Japanese anime?
Also, there's nothing to say it's going to be in an anime style at all.
It's all far too soon to be speculating, either way.
They can have Japanese characters, and be accused of using racist stereotypes; or make them ordinary people and be accused of just writing white people and being racistly insensetive; or have no Japanese, and be accused of not including them because they're racist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil
Yeah.
The word 'racist' lost all meaning for me the day I was accused of racism for daring to say North and South America are two different continents. People just throw it around for anything they happen to feel like on the day.
- Le Messor
"I always say beauty is only skin deep."
~ Saki
I was looking at it more from the 'marketing to weaboos' issue than any issue of racism. If they can manage to write a Japanese team that aren't based on what Anime fans like or common misconceptions, then ok. They'd have a lot of research to do on actual culture, though, and should probably collaborate with some writers and directors from Japan for perspective on that.
I love anime, actually. I just get tired of the creepy obsession some people in the West have with Japan just because of anime and fashion, and all the delusional bs they talk about 'what Japan is like' 'why Japan is better'.
FP, what anime offended you, btw? Most of the ones I watch are set in different worlds/future worlds so I lack experience with that.
I think you'd enjoy this one.
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He kind of reminds me of someone...
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Hmmmm....
I'm feeling offended by your use of the word "people". ;)Quote:
The word 'racist' lost all meaning for me the day I was accused of racism for daring to say North and South America are two different continents. People just throw it around for anything they happen to feel like on the day.
I'm feeling offended by your use of the word "people". ;)Quote:
The word 'racist' lost all meaning for me the day I was accused of racism for daring to say North and South America are two different continents. People just throw it around for anything they happen to feel like on the day.
ES, the only thing that is even close to anime that I have enjoyed, was the Teen Titans tv show. My daughter is into stuff like Bey Blades and all that; can't stand that stuff. I seriously wonder why so many of the characters seem to be a very bad stereotype of what Japanese must think non-Japanese people are like. I find the characters overly annoying and cloying, the art is iffy, and the emotional reactions so over-the-top that it makes me wanna hurl.
Phil, I didn't say this movie would automatically be anime. Also, i don't think of Big Hero 6 as a true superhero comics genre, they seem to be in a side-category of their own, and one that i definitely do not enjoy. But by choosing such a silly hero team to think of making a movie about, it seems fairly obvious they are hoping to draw in anime fans with anime-type characters such as Big hero 6 employ on their team. (or is that reverse-anime characters?)
If they want to do a weird team, why not the Great Lake Avengers? Heck, they could have chosen the highly-irrational early lineup of the West Coast Avengers. At least neither of these is likely to be as annoying as BH6. (Plus, they'd both benefit greatly from having 'Avengers' in their title)
IF this movie gets made, i won't be seeing it.
Most entities are.
You don't see who the blond character in the pics I posted resembles? Really?Quote:
Originally Posted by Flightpath07
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A lot of anime is annoying, I'm pretty picky myself. The stuff that's popular with teens and tweens is usually the worst. lol Though I also HATED Teen Titans. It's such a terrible attempt at impersonating anime art but with all the predictability, shallow story telling, and lack of character development of dumbed down American children's cartoons. As for poor representations of what Westerners are like, well, unless they specify that the show is set in our world and that the characters are Westerners, that's probably not the case. Characters will have fair skin a lot of the time because the Japanese idealize fair skin, and the colorful hair and eyes is for the fun of it, really.
Has your daughter watched Cowboy BeeBop or Ghost in the Shell? Those are more serious series that are both critically acclaimed and often the exception to the rule amongst those who hate most anime. Those, and Gurren Lagann have great art and high animation quality. Though you have to watch TTGL subbed, the dub is annoying. Anyhow, my point is you shouldn't judge ALL anime based on a few bad impressions.
Sorry the convo got so OT.
That's a possibility.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flightpath07
The other way to look at it is that the two biggest cartoon hits of recent years have been Ben 10 & Generator Rex, both of which were created by Man of Action, which comprises of Steve Seagle and Duncan Rouleau the creative team behind AF v2. #17 and thus the creators of BH6...
That's the thing though; they can't.Quote:
If they want to do a weird team, why not the Great Lake Avengers? Heck, they could have chosen the highly-irrational early lineup of the West Coast Avengers. At least neither of these is likely to be as annoying as BH6. (Plus, they'd both benefit greatly from having 'Avengers' in their title)
They can't make an animated film with the word 'Avengers' in because Paramount have joint rights.
They can't make an animated Spider-Man film because Sony have the rights.
They can't make an animated X-Men or FF film because Fox have the rights.
Disney are mining Marvel properties for a title suitable for an animated film.
Something like Defenders possibly makes more sense from a traditional comics point of view, but without Hulk or Silver Surfer in it (again, rights as above) it'd just be Strange & Namor and they're a tad deep and serious for a children's film.
BH6 doesn't have a legion of fans to complain when they change continuity or tweak things so it's essentially a fresh slate concept.
If it happens it'll be aimed at children; it'll be silly and wacky and over the top and have a happy ending, but that's the point.
If it's anything akin to The Incredibles I'll enjoy it for what it is, knowing at the same time that I'm not the target audience.
Sorry, no clue.Quote:
You don't see who the blond character in the pics I posted resembles? Really?
Don't recall either of those being motion pictures, tho.Quote:
the two biggest cartoon hits of recent years have been Ben 10 & Generator Rex,
"I'll never get off this planet."
Besides, the way Seagle ignored continuity, none of his fans have the right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil
Ben 10 was, wasn't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Flightpath07
Is it relevant either way? They're big, hugely famous cartoons whether they're movies or not.
- Le Messor
"I'll never get off this planet."
I'll sell anyone my copy for $17.50!
DIGGER
Would you sell it to the Master of the World, knowing that it was the final ingredient he needed to make a death-ray with which he would blow Alberta off of the map?Quote:
Originally Posted by DIGGER
I got my copy out of a 50cent bin years ago. I just made a bazillion dollars!!! Well, US dollars. Which is like $1.23 in Canadian dollars. Enough to buy a beer?
You mean Thomas Mulcaire is really the Master of the World?Quote:
Originally Posted by Flightpath07
DIGGER
Yeah yeah... enjoy the world's highest tax rates, buddy. I figure it just about evens out out. :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by rplass
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Ooh, is that a Peter Porker reference?
Lost track of Big Hero 6 after AF vol 2 ended. I enjoyed seeing them in that Amazing Spider-Man Ends of the Earth oneshot.
One question though, why does Baymax look like an upgraded version of the original Box? At least to me, he does.
Big Hero 6 Test footage: http://blogs.disney.com/oh-my-disney...g-hero-6-news/
Alpha Flight was mentioned in this article.
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?p...ticle&id=45394
It's nothing more than background, but boy is it beautiful background!Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil
~ Le Messor
Groucho: Just for that I'm not going to give you the job I was going to give you.
Chico: What job?
Groucho: Secretary of War
Chico: Alright, I take it.
~ Duck Soup
Glad Alpha got a mention in that article.
I'm glad too. I think it will have an effect on demand for the original Alpha Flight comic. I'm predicting the BH6 guest star issue from Alpha Flight v2 (#17) as a $20 wall book by NYCC 2014!!!
It already is that on eBay haha