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For me the name change makes sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Powersurge
True fans' gripes about volume two and three were Alpha Flight in title only and failed because they didn't contain Alpha Flight.
Here we have a book that while respectful of the team, the title and the characters, isn't claiming to be the same book and isn't making the same mistakes.
Alpha's biggest draw for me was always it's dysfunctional family of misfit heroes, so I can see the line up working.
True enough... echoeing as it does what I posted about wiping the slate "clean" so to speak, ie. eliminating the preconceived notions/expectations.
Of course, as "the saying" goes... "praise the day at dusk, the ice once crossed, the maid when married".
I'm certainly willing to give the title a try. It'll give me a comic to buy once Civil War is all tied up!
First let me say this is the best news I've heard in a very long time. It sounds like Oeming is planning to pay Alpha Flight the respect they have earned. As long as that remains a constant in his writing I don't think any of the long time fans will be displeased. Yeah we want to see our old favorites, but if the writing is good and it pays homage to the past I can live with it. I'm stoked to see Talisman in there. I always loved her. And I'm very interested to see who else might be in there. I'd be surprised if the Thor character is a Box-bot. That seems to be asking a bit much. I mean Jefferies was still quite mad last I saw him. Doesn't really make sense for him to be helping out. And if it is Julia Carpenter from West Coast Avengers/Force Works, I'll be extremely happy as well. I always enjoyed her character. As a single mom, she may also play into the Hudson orphan saga. As for Steve Rogers vs. USAgent, it really makes little difference. At least Cap I guess doesn't have USA in his moniker. He could be construed as a hero for all of the Americas (even though he never has been before). For that matter it could be Clint Barton. He's done the startup team before. Anyway as stated I am extremely excited about this. I will be hitting the comic shop again. It's been about 8 months now. And this book is what will get me there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Canucklehead
Yeah, but this has worked before with villains like Hawkeye for instance. It definitely would lead to some serious internal conflict down the road though. Imagine Mac actually slipping out of a coma to find out that the Mad Mailman has stolen his dream. I can see him gunning for the Collective with every resource available to him and possibly even crossing the line himself. Especially if Heather did not make it off of the frozen tundra alive. Could be the beginnings of a very powerful rival. Pehaps Mac could even pick up the mantle of The Master or AntiGuardian to bring the battle to the Collective. I'd accept that!
It's been confirmed by Mike that it's Beta Ray Bill.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barnacle13
That might be very true. I recall the earliest issues which had Liz in them, and she didn't appear to want anything to do with her father or the heritage he offered.Quote:
Originally Posted by DMK
Of course, this might all be hair-splitting. While we might appreciate the fine nunace between cultural identity and "political affiliation", ie. citizenship within a multi-national state, Oeming may or may not have chosen to represent that nuance.
Of course, to be "Canadian" means to allow everyone their culture and heritage, ie. a multi-cultural/-national state, but if one identifies overly much with the state, like it is a true nation or nation-state, well, they are then left with a "culture of abscence" in which their own cutlural identity is reduced to little more than letting everyone else have their cultural identity, political parties and institutions, legislation, and taxes.
Anyway, it might thus not even be an issue of how the Native Indian looking woman in the promo-pic see's herself, but more an issue of how Oeming see's her, or how he see's her seeing herself, or probably most likely what he is willing to give away at the moment.
Hello folks, thought I'd finally register with the big news.
I'm glad to see a new series, though I'm not thrilled with the apparant lack of past Alpha mainstays, however, we could see that change over time.
As for the bit about "only seeing one Canadian" I think the poster who mentioned that the characters are obscured so we can't know for sure who they were is on the money. Its also a clever way to create discussion and anticipation for the book.
The other possibility, of course, is that there is a non-Canadian in the Guardian suit, which I don't think would be very well received. Putting say, an Australian in Captain America's uniform isn't a good idea, and the same holds true for Guardian's suit IMO.
saw this on another board and it sounds like a incredible idea.
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I really hope to see an aliance between Canada, Wakanda, and Atlantis as a watch-dog group to oppose America when S.H.I.E.L.D. shows their true evil intentions. I can see Canada playing a role with Omega Flight to help Wakanda Unify all of Africa under King T'challa and the Goddess, Storm!
i mean think about it, your neighbors to the south are having a war between their heroes that will not only effect your borders but international boarders outside of north america. a alliance with other nations forming a watchdog group to keep a eye on and possibly hold back what is going on makes great sense.
I figure Mr. Oeming will write Omega Flight to stand on its own. Alliances with the Russian Super Soldiers, Big Hero Six, China Force, and even Black Air (can't see Excalibur on side) would be cool at times. the anti-SHIELD good guys. Could make an awesome lineup to face down whatever SHIELD could throw at them when SHIELD is on another world-controlling binge. :shock:
Elizabeth Twoyoungmen was foretold to be the Talisman, even before putting on the coronet she had power (absorbing Ranaq's mystical attack and returning it, being able to look into Shaman's medicine pouch without harm) so it's not supposed to be the sort of deal Thor's hammer has. Yeah, Shaman replaced Elizabeth as the Talisman once, but I chalk that up to poor writing/lack of research.Quote:
Originally Posted by mreeez
If Elizabeth isn't Talisman in OF (assuming it is Talisman) then the series will be off to a bad start IMO.
True enough, hard to think it's not Talisman, or at the 'left-fieldish' Snowbird with mixed-up powers.
Wouldn't it be funny if December's solicits included Omega Flight? I know, it won't be out that early for sure, but it would keep the fire stoked.
Not sure why people want Guardian to be a lame American mailman and Talisman to be... someone else. Can't see how the book would be better with that silliness. Even if we think USAgent makes no sense, it's hard to believe that's not him in the pic, too.
Otherwise who's the character with links to AF past? USAgent. A jerk with a bad attitude? USAgent. A member who survived Bendis? Mac Hudson. A character with links to the team? Talisman.
Really, only the Spider-Woman is more of a mystery right now.
I have a question. If the Guardian in OF is Mac, which Mac is he? Is he cyborg Mac? Temporal twin Mac? Original Mac no longer cyborged? Clone Mac? Just what is Mac nowadays? And please don't say dead.
Cyborg Mac, clone mac is destroyed. Unless they decide he's not a cyborg after NA #16...
Mac is Gentry from vol2 but the series ended before it could be confirmed. Cyborg Mac was deaged in vol2 but he died in Wolverine rescuing Alphs Flight from AIM. The other Mac is another clone
what would you think if Guardian was Sean Benard aka Groundhog. Maybe SHIELD hinted him down to register since he operated as Groundhog and he comes out of hiding since he knows the basics of the suit
To be honest I want Guardian to either be Mac or a completely new character in the suit.
I hope to God its not the Collective dude. Why would an American put on the Guardian costume anyway? That doesnt make sense. Thats like a Canadian putting on Captain America's costume.
MikeM