Alpha/Omega

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Originally Posted by mos_def

if Ben says AF is dead and Omega is taking their place as a name, then Ill go with that. Even if it aint from a source, Ben knows alot from insiders. Maybe he is slipping with info due to marriage. Maybe he knows everything. Maybe Ben is behind Civil War. HMmmmmm. Or maybe was just giving his opinion without any inside source. Let hope live, Ben

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Their not all dead, here's why I think so.....

NRAMA: Now, assuming this is the line-up – though perhaps minus an addition or two - a lot of characters associated with Alpha Flight in the past aren’t present. What role – if any – will characters line Heather Hudson, Puck, Sasquatch, Northstar, and Aurora, etc… play in this series?

MO: Oh, we will be seeing them again soon enough. I will say this - part of the idea of moving on is that they are done with Flight. Imagine being in an epic rock band, and a few of your members dies. A year later people demand your reunion and the group is being reformed... you might not like that. Your band is gone, young memories lie in the past, for you, its time to move on and hope the new band either falls off a cliff or they carry on and honor the name. We'll see both reactions.

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Originally Posted by Mokole

Plus, here's an idea: why can't Marvel says really anything about Omega Flight without spoiling plot points in Civil War? Even at Baltimore Con Joe Q refused to say anything about the book at all.

Because US Agent and Arachne, maybe more, will need to be saved from SHIELD and, by plan or accident, remnants of Alpha Flight rescue them! :D

You know, they are on the run, reps from Canada show up in Washnigton to get mad at the locals for how Civil War is hurting innocent Canadians, then bam, a fight spills over to them, they join in and rescue the ones losing after US Agent and Arachne (and others) beg them for help. OR they're prisoners in chains and AF is asked to rescue them from the indignity. After all, you know Talisman could breach the File 42 prison in the Negative Zone :D

I'm pretty sure I've got it now.... :shock:

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As Mokole Said. Mokole, I take it the drugs aren't working anymore :wink: :lol:

The glass is half full 8)

Read into that what you will.

Ben

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Originally Posted by cmdrkoenig67

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Originally Posted by Legerd

Oh I know it won't be AF. I'm just tired of hearing everyone talk like the characters and the team's premise were the reason the original title kept failing. It wasn't. It was an utter lack of ability and creativity on the part of the various writers and a lack of commitment from Marvel.

If there was a failure when it came to AF the company shouldn't blame their product.

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You are SO right, Legerd.

Dana

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Preach on! Ya'll are 100% correct.

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Originally Posted by cmdrkoenig67

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Originally Posted by DelBubs

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Originally Posted by cmdrkoenig67

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Dana:

Thanks for your suggestions and while I do appreciate the sentiment, the goal for us is to create a successful title. While Alpha Flight does have it's following, in the past it hasn't been a big enough following to keep the book afloat for a sustained period of time. Our goal is to hopefully refresh the concept and have it appeal to the old fans and hopefully enough new that we can continue publishing it for years to come. Will this work, I don't know, there are no guarantees in the entertainment biz, but we're going to be giving it our best shot. Hopefully you'll give the new title a shot and hopefully we can deliver the goods.

Be well,
JQ

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Like I said...Hogwashery.

Dana

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Care to elaborate, cos I don't see hogwashery, just a well reasoned response.

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Ten years isn't a sustained period of time? Giving it their best shot (is it really their best shot...One would think, actually giving the real AF/well-written and illustrated a try would be giving it their "best shot")? I don't see how this would be "delivering the goods" at all...It isn't Alpha Flight, but they're certainly trying to pass it off as a acceptable substitute (in their opinion). "Refreshing the concept" would be dusting off the old and reviving what made them special and sellable, not replacing the concept almost entirely (a team of characters with no connections to the old, save for one member...A new title (associated with the enemies of said original concept team)...A cast of non-Canadian heroes on a Canada-based team).

It's ill-disquised "peacetalk".

Dana

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=D>

The more I read about Omega the more I get excited. I like change personally, hell I'm one of the few that actually liked vol. 3. 8)

I will be buying this new book.

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Originally Posted by cmdrkoenig67

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Originally Posted by DelBubs

I'm gonna leave it here Dana, a comic book is not worth falling out over. I'll remain optimistic and you can remain pessemistic. When the time comes and if your proved right, then you can give me all the told you so's you want. If I'm right, I'll just read the book and be glad that Alpha or some semblence of Alpha is getting the respect they deserve.

As regard the Beta thing, your mind is already half made up about a premise that doesn't even exist.

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I'm not trying to fight with you, Del (and just because I disagree with you, it doesn't mean I am pessimistic about AF...Not in the least)...I'm merely expressing my opinions/disappointment and frustration at the news of no Alpha Flight and this sad place-filler....Please don't take any of it personally.

I still don't see any respect for AF or it's fans in this book...Alpha Flight is dead...It doesn't get any more disrespectful than that IMHO. This bull-oney that killing the team gives them new life is just that...Bull. Sure, AF fans and others are talking about the group's being owned...But yet again, AF was shown to be weak, a joke and not worth caring about (on Marvel's part). We disagree on a lot of it and that's okay.

I was mostly joking about the Beta concept, if you couldn't tell.

Dana :wink:

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Your absolutely right. I hadn't really thought about Alpha Flight for years. (I just recently got back into comics about a year ago.) When I bought New Avengers #16 (I had been reading the title since issue #1) and the Collective was in Canada and AF showed up. I was stoked. Even though, I had no idea of who a few of the AF members were, I was shocked, pissed and very angry when the villian just blew right through AF and destroyed them. I thought that Bendis was a big pile of (fill in your word hear).
Now I kinda intrigued and worried about this new series all together and I'll give it a chance when it's released. But it'll be hangin' by a very thin thread.

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Originally Posted by Ben

The glass is half full 8)

Read into that what you will.

Ben

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Ah, it's not whether the cup is half empty or half full. It's what the cup is filled with. :lol:

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Originally Posted by Legerd

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Originally Posted by Ben

The glass is half full 8)

Read into that what you will.

Ben

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Ah, it's not whether the cup is half empty or half full. It's what the cup is filled with. :lol:

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:D Hopefully some kind of adult-oriented beverage. :twisted:

Taste
The most important quality of a wine is its balance between sweetness and acidity. To get the full taste of a wine follow the following three steps:

1. Initial taste (or first impression): This is where the wine awakens your senses (your taste buds respond to sensations).
2. Taste: Slosh the wine around and draw in some air (even if you do look funny in front of your dinner guests). Examine the body and texture of the wine. Is it light or rich? Smooth or harsh?
3. Aftertaste: The taste that remains in your mouth after you have swallowed the wine. How long did the taste last? Was it pleasant?

If pleasant one would buy the bottle, but no decision should be made until after the initial tasting.

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Originally Posted by Legerd

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Originally Posted by Ben

The glass is half full 8)

Read into that what you will.

Ben

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Ah, it's not whether the cup is half empty or half full. It's what the cup is filled with. :lol:

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Molson hopefully! 100% Canadi.... wait, they're half American now. Oh well, we still have our Alpha Flight book which is 100% Canadi... ahh s***.

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Originally Posted by Legerd

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Originally Posted by Ben

The glass is half full 8)

Read into that what you will.

Ben

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Ah, it's not whether the cup is half empty or half full. It's what the cup is filled with. :lol:

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Taken from http://forum.alphaflight.net/viewtop...t=1390&start=0

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Originally Posted by Legerd

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Originally Posted by Snowsquatch

It would be kinda ironic if Marcel created a new "Alpha Flight" comic with a different name, but felt more like AF than volume 3.

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Man, anything would be more like AF than Vol. 3! (IMHO) :lol:

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Originally Posted by Snowsquatch

See a trend? The only suitable choices would be characters of a type not already represented, like Spidey or Wolverine...

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Although a lot of AF fans would disagree with me, I would like to see Wolverine join the team for a lttle while. Just long enough to get non-AF fans reading the book. The same goes for any other hero who is shipped in to join the team. Get them in, attract new fans, move the heroes on. With some luck (and good writing) there will be some new AF fans after Civil War events have faded.

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Exhausted after a long day I decided to let you answer your own question :-)

I asked a question? :?

Note I said:

"...I would like to see Wolverine join the team for a lttle while. Just long enough to get non-AF fans reading the book. The same goes for any other hero who is shipped in to join the team. Get them in, attract new fans, move the heroes on."

The important part to what I posted is the new heroes would join the team not replace the team. But you can relax DB the cup comment I made was only meant as a joke, not a shot at the OF book. :)

I know Legerd, hence the bit about Wine Tasting. I actually stumbled across that quote by yourself by accident. That thread is interesting though given the amount of people who thought along those lines.

You guys sure seem to like liquor references.

I bet Mokole has something with his Civil War post, about how AF fits in. Cool.

If File 42 is a prison thing, sure why not, that may be where AF shows up, or helping, or fighting, or showing up in New York and sticking their tongues out at Iron Man. Because they are then anti-sra, people look to them for help. Why not?

And Ben knows more than the rest of you? What would that be? Too secret information!