That would be my thinking on US Agent, during his initial appearences he followed some exteme right wing ideologies so I can't see him going against the Super Hero Registration act, but I could be wrong.
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That would be my thinking on US Agent, during his initial appearences he followed some exteme right wing ideologies so I can't see him going against the Super Hero Registration act, but I could be wrong.
i forget what usagents shield looked like, but you may be right, i don't think it was that big of a "knockoff"
mike oeming is saying only one canadian.....
hmmm....
i wonder if thats a newbie in the guardian suit.
Very well could happen, but I just remembered US Agent did have that design of shield but no star in the middle (AF #102)Quote:
Originally Posted by Canucklehead
He used two in New Invaders:Quote:
Originally Posted by varo
http://jerome.galica.free.fr/marvel/...aders_2_TC.gif http://jerome.galica.free.fr/marvel/...aders_4_TC.gif
The stars pop out on #1.
But the interview stated their would be a survivor from New Avengers #16 joining the team. Who else could it be? unless he wasn't in the promo peice.Quote:
Originally Posted by varo
Over on Newsrama someone is suggesting the Hulk with Thors hammer and at JinxWorld Mike Oeming poses the question "Who says that's Beta Ray Bill". So in reality we still know sweet FA :-)
Talisman : Evens
Guardian (Steve Rogers) 4/1
US Agent (As The Captain) 7/1
Spider Woman 2 20/1 (could be some called Arachne ???)
HulkaThor 20/1
It's fun to speculate :? :shock:
'Joining the team', would suggest that the team is established when the survivor joins, so we may not see them for a few issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by King Mungi
There's also no clear A on his forhead. Another clue which might be Steve taking the name "The Captain" or something, leaving out the America.
It better not be the russian Thor from the People's ProctateQuote:
Originally Posted by DelBubs
Very possible, here's the exact quote:Quote:
Originally Posted by DelBubs
MAO: Well, I can’t give that away yet. I will say that only one team member who has previously been in Flight will be on the team, but we will be seeing the return of at least one of the members killed in the New Avengers. But with flashbacks and such, we’ll also get a glimpse of the team in its glory from time to time.
Wow. I havent been here in years!
Some of you folks may remember me from a long time ago (when we had to add everyones addresses to our own mailing lists) though I doubt it.
Alpha Flight is dead but Omega Flight lives on huh? Not sure how I feel about it. Curious to see who is in the Guardian costume. Big fan of Oeming and Kolins so Im going to be along for the ride.
Now with with Alpha (Omega) Flight back I look forward to having lots of conversations about or favourite Canadian superheroes.
Mike M.
I don't remember the moniker, but do remember the time when we had to add out name to the list so we all got the e-mails. Mike M has a fmiliar ring about it, but that could just be my memory playing games.
I'm willing to see how this pans out, some Alpha/Omega has got to be better than non at all (I don't count vol 3 :-) ).
That said, maybe a belated welcome to Tiberius Bane is in order as well as hearty welcomes to NickT and Oeming. Welcome to you all.
i used to love kollins when he was on the flash. haven't seen to much of his marvel stuff though.
is it just me or does it seem like his art is "white washed"?
i wonder if thats on purpose?
Meanwhile, over at Newsarama
Also, in last week's Joe Quesada Friday Q & A piece, he responded with this to someone who was inquiring as to an ongoing Beta Ray Bill series written by Oeming:
JQ: Howard, the reason you don't remember the announcement is because there wasn't any such announcement that I'm aware of. But, that said, Oeming will not be writing a Beta Ray Bill book any time in the near future but he will be writing Beta Ray Bill. Okay, I hope that clears things up for you.
Confusion Reigns :?
Quote:
Originally Posted by DelBubs
OOOOH YEAH!! that DEFINATELY has to be Talisman!! And until someone like Mike tells me otherwise, I won't be swayed!
http://geocities.com/davidchenard99/omegaflight.jpg
Something I just noticed, behind Guardian and Cap, theres a large black area. Is it a cape or "Spider-Woman"s hair? And why isn't "Beta Ray Bill"s' 2nd foot touching the ground?
Edit: D'oh the Cape is Beta's isn't it? But he's still missing a foot lol
It's BRB cape and her hair joiningQuote:
Originally Posted by Canucklehead
But still standing on one foot lol.
I'm excited for the change because reading other boards, people who normally wouldn't read alpha are excited and want to pick this up. On the other hand... the originals we love so dear are dead.. which you know, sucks and which may turn off the die hard fans.
So.. is baby Hudson an orphan?
I know, it really sucks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Canucklehead
I bet there are other survivors, and if she is then so is Major Mapleleaf's daughter as well
I wonder if instead of BRB it's a Asgardian Box bot :)
I hope Oeming is still reading this because I don't know how common knowledge the baby is.
I'd like to know what the plan is for "The Collective". He left NA looking to be a hero. Might HE be the man in the guardian suit? If not, what did Bendis have planned for him? What better way to repay the debt of life taken, then by following in that persons footsteps? Just a theory. He IS a "survivor of the encounter" after all. He was from Alaska and there's only suposed to be one Canadian at first. Talisman.
PS
I miss Sasquatch.
I hope he doesn't join the team, I dispise the Collective
I'm with you, the last thing Omega (do you know how difficult to type Omega after 22 years of saying Alpha?) is a member with a trolley full of emotional baggage. Alpha had it's fair share of those.Quote:
Originally Posted by King Mungi
Same here. Pffft, mail men, always going crazy going on a rampage. I'd rather not see "Micheal Porter" dawn the red and white. Although it is scarily still a possibility. Maybe as a villain would be ok. SO they can kick his arse!
All I know is that I have a nice, warm feeling all over about the news of a new AF...er, OF book. =P~
I remember that Ben said you would hate at first then love it later, will I love it now!
MM
It does feel good now that we know it's real and see a visual. We'll see about the hate at first/love later. Is something happening later or will it just that it'll grow on us?
Anyhoo I'm just happy and wondering why there's only like 5 people in this thread!! This is big news! And it is officially Sept 3rd so happy birthday to me! What a great gift!
wikipedia already added Omega Flight:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omega_Flight
Alpha Flight:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_flight
I wonder if MAO is referring to the same character in each sentence or two different characters. Who do you think he is referring to? Wolverine?Quote:
KD: Uh huh. Let me at least try to get you to expand on your teases: which character has been your favorite to write so far?
MAO: I can’t say that either...
Ah, what the hell. I’ll say it. [CENSORED BY MARVEL COMICS] is my favorite character. That’s a bit obvious, but he is. [CENSORED BY MARVEL COMICS] is fun too because he’s a bit of a cold bastard, and that’s always fun.
But that’s all I can reveal.
Love,
rplass
I'm pretty sure it's Beta Ray Bill he was talking about
Hi Del. Went just by Mike back then. I also participated in that huge round robin Alpha Flight fan fic that went around back in 1998 or so.Quote:
Originally Posted by DelBubs
With only one Canadian on the team, Im guessing that isnt Talisman. At least not the Talisman we know. Obviously the Canadian will be in the Guardian suit. Weather its Mac or not we probably won't find out until the series launches. Im still not sure how I feel about this. Alpha Flight is Canada's super team. It doesnt make sense to have only 1 Canadian on it. But I do agree that Alpha Flight has so much baggage it would be easier to start over with a new group and name. Doesn't mean I still buy into it all though. But as I said earlier. With the creative team, Ill give it a shot for sure.
MikeM
AWESOME :D :D :D
Welcome Tiberius, Nick, and Mr. Oeming!
WOO HOO!
OMEGA FLIGHT
Looks to me like it has to Mac Hudson as Guardian.
That's USAgent, I recognize the character design and clothing, and yes he has used a circle/star shield before. It's Walker, as USAgent.
Big guy really could be so many but if it's not Beta Ray Bill I would be shocked. I am about 99% sure it's Beta Ray Bill.
The Spider Woman could be so many, there have been about 4. Realistically, from the costume design and the fact Mike A. Oeming said the series would delve in mystics, and that leaves only Julia Carpenter as a realistic possibility. So Arachne.
Finally, the person manipulating the Northern Lights, good old Aurora Borealis. All I can think of is a revamped Talisman.
No way that's Captain America. He's already been said to be in New Avengers with Spider-Man (Iron Man forms Mighty Avengers). No Jessica Jones!! Hooray! No Luke Cage, no Ben Grimm. The possible Talisman could be a new character, so could the Beta Ray Bill Thor, or the Spider-Woman, as Mr. Oeming said there would be one new character, or was it Mr. Kolins?
OMEGA FLIGHT.
I'm not happy about only two AFers, but I'm pumped about Omega Flight. :D :D
OK, the Spider Woman, if not new, could be Mattie Franklin, too.
Still pumped! :D
Where's Ben in all this! :wink:
Omega Flight
I just thought of something, she IS a Byrne creation after all... but god I hope it's not her!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mokole
I wonder if there'll be a 6th member join soon after. Maybe another recognizable face. Hopefully!
Yeah I'd love to hear what Ben thinks, but then again it is a long weekend.
Maniac Mike - I'm going into this with the principal of loving this first and hoping there's no reason ever to hate it :-)
RPlass - If we're talking cold bastards, then US Agent fits that description perfectly, not sure what he's been doing recently, but I don't see him having been organising benevolent concerts.
Tiberius - Your not talking about BoND are you? Plenty of us from that round robin still hang around here.
As for Ben, since he got married he's been totally neglecting his duties, real selfish if you ask me :lol: :shock: :P
Anyone want to do a recap of where we've got with all this speculating ?
Talisman is probably the Canadian, Spider-Woman(Jessica Drew), Captain America(Steve Rogers? US Agent is in the UK, why would he have to flee to Canada?), Beta Ray Bill and Mail Man Michael as a new Guardian?
Dana
Edited to add: Happy Birthday, Canucklehead!
Geez, this might take a little getting use to. I'm stoked that we're getting some sort of title, but the fact they really did kill off Alpha in such a lousy way... :x Mr. Oeming, if you could bring yourself to maybe "saving" some of the Alphans from the Collective it'd be much appreciated. :wink: It seems to me that we're getting someone new to wear the Guardian mantle, but if there is only one Canadian on the team (and it would appear to be Taliman) than who has donned the red and white? And if the person isn't Canadian why are they wearing the Canadian flag as their costume? Could it be out of respect for Alpha or is it because the government (if they are backing this team) ordered it? I don't mean this as a criticism, just curious.
So Mike (if I may call you that) can you give us some more details? Oh, and by the way, I like the idea of a mystical take on the title. It's something to tie it to the old AF.
http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=82746
Hmph...Nice comment from Bendis (insert extreme sarcasm)...Bendis replied, "So, America gets like 5,000 superheroes. We don't get anything. All we had was Alpha Flight. They sucked, but they were ours."
Maybe they sucked in his opinion, but not for the several hundreds/thousands of fans who bought Vol. 1, 2 and 3. What a jerk.
Do they not realize that a true Alpha Flight book has not been tried since Vol. 1?! Vol. 2 was a semi-cool attempt that might have worked had it continued...Vol. 3 was Sasquatch and his replacement heroes (written as a lame, jokey book by Scott Lobdell).
A back to basics AF book has not been even attempted (not even in a flipping mini). Marvel will never learn and apparently AF fans will never get what they've been asking for all these years.
Dana
Yeah, BoND that was it! I noticed Sue was still around and obviously Ben climbed the ranks. I had joined just before him. Ben and I were somewhat the instigators in the Great Food Fight of 1998. (or 97 can't remember)Quote:
Originally Posted by DelBubs
He got married? Thats great news.
Back to Omega Flight. I actually toyed with the idea of writing a fan fic where there was someone new in the Guardian suit. I would have just had Mac and Heather retire to raise their child instead of killing them off.
I'm still not 100% sure on this but I am more confident in the book than i was with volume 3. I didnt like comics that are written as a joke. I don't mind humour but when the whole thing is based around it? Doesnt fly I find.
Im trying to get it through my head that this is just a new super hero team with a Guardian character on it instead of thinking of Alpha Flight and Canadian heroes. Its hard to do.
In regards to BoND, Sue's still about, Ben, the person we have to thank for this forum. If there was an award for keeping the Alpha flame flying through all the bad years, it would have to go to him, his work for Alpha is monumental. Seng still pops in from time to time. I probably joined up to BoND after you left, I did about two chapters and then we decided to wind it down. I think it was just after it recieved a Forbrush award for longest running fanfic or somthing :-) Leafy is still around on the net, but he mostly keeps the New Warriors flame going (not a good choice of words given recent events).
Dana, I know we're not getting Alpha as we know it, but we are getting a good writer and artist and Mike Oeming ha said in his earlier post that there will be references to Alpha. As long as it ain't vol 3 revisited I think we should be fine.
I don't know Del...The real Canadian team, Alpha Flight is dead...A team called Omega Flight, based in Canada, but with only one Canadian on it? I'm not even Canadian, and I think this really stinks...period!Quote:
Originally Posted by DelBubs
It looks to me like Alpha fans have to settle for less...Yet again.
Dana :x
Dana, yesterday we had no Alpha, today we have no Alpha, but their legacy will live on in Omega. After the debacle that was vol 3, Marvel could have cut there losses and said no more Canadian connections what so ever. Instead they've put a top notch team on Omega which will draw in new readers.
In the house of the starving man even a morsel is a banquet.
Give it a chance, you never know we might be pleasantly surprised.
I agree, I'm very annoyed with what happened to Alpha Flight as it's still bitter in my mouth. However, this lineup and the creators have gotten people talking and almost everyone I talk to on different boards will be pikcing it up.