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Here's a thought, what if it is Talismans wish to have Alpha (and her dad) back. She makes the deal, sacrfices herself for their return and Shaman upon his return to the land of the living and realizing what her daughter (the binder of spirits) has done tries to undo it against everyone else in Alpha's wishes. That could explain the absence of Talisman in the Chaos War art.
DIGGER
Hmmmm, you have something there.
From what I've read, this is supposed to reunite the original team and since Talisman is not an original team member, I take it that is why she's not in this.Quote:
Originally Posted by DIGGER
That's true...I'm guessing Walter's son would have to be a teen (at least I'd like to see him as a teen....It would be interesting to see a resentful teen son and Walter interact)...It seemed like Walt and Veronica had been divorced for a while before Volume One Started, probably even before he got involved with Alpha Flight? Were all of Marrina's "kids" killed? I know at least one of them was terminated by Namor.Quote:
Originally Posted by MistressMerr
I don't know how to take Mapleleaf and Puck II's supposed child, though....Many of the closing stories at the end of Lobdell's volume 3 seemed to be just tying up loose ends and didn't they all indicate that they were future events?...Such as The Major and Zuzha went on to get married and had a child, Centennial and Nemesis died at a later date. I'm thinking that not all of these things happened.
Dana
I'm now doubting that it will be Llan or the Dreamqueen...McCann seems rather fond of the Byrne line-up...I'm guessing he's going to use a Byrne villain (which would indicate the Master or Somon/Great Beasts).Quote:
Originally Posted by -K-M-
Dana
Go Phil!Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil
Since dead Alpha Flight characters are coming back, wouldn't it be grand if they came up against Jaxon again?
Marrina is already included with the resurrectees, Mr F. I too would have liked to have seen other dead Alphans returned (mostly, Bochs and Diamond Lil). I guess Mr McCann only wanted the Alpha Flight Vol.1 Issue 1 Byrne team back. There's always the possibility that Diamond Lil and Bochs would also be booted from the afterlife as well, due to the Chaos War (even if their resurrections aren't shown). Maybe they could be used in later stories? You never know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrfurious87
Dana
Yes, Indeed....I always felt Jerry Jaxon was a great, messed-up villain.Quote:
Originally Posted by mreeez
I still think Delphine was lying about him being dead, though. He was apparently still alive (but his brain may have been fried or maybe he was comatose?) when she escaped with him at the end of issue #12 (their escape was mentioned in #13, I think)...Why would she take his body, if he was actually dead?
Dana
Cool...I hear bran is good for the digestion. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sypes
Dana
Not Elizabeth! NOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooo! I hope not....She's such a great character.Quote:
Originally Posted by DIGGER
Dana
well heres hoping McCaan finally ditches heather of her costume like she was intended :) starting to look very hopeful, october couldnt come sooner
Oh!....Another thing....Heather looks to be in her original Guardian uniform (on the cover of the Chaos War one shot)....YAY! I was never a big fan of the green Geo suit. I think seeing both Heather and Mac in the red and whites would be awesome!
Dana
At least I'll have something good to read while I'm on the .... ;)
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Originally Posted by cmdrkoenig67
Im hoping McCaan ditches the suit for heather I prefered her the way byrne wanted her, no suit.
lol!Quote:
Originally Posted by sypes
If she is to be in a power suit, though....I'd prefer the red and white. If she never put on the suit, that's one thing...but she did (after Byrne left the book, of course)...The power would be a hard thing for a person to give up. Never to be able to fly again, never to be able to fight super beings on their on level.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrfurious87
Dana
I dunno. I think that perhaps Puck is the one that makes the sacrifice to return them to the land of the living, thus Puck stays in hell. And i agree that Talisman would definitely be the one most against these resurrections. Her, or Walter...after the stress he went thru at the beginning of Omega Flight...and then having to work with Pointer...i could imagine him snapping a few synapses and going completely stark-raving-nuts over this.Quote:
Originally Posted by cmdrkoenig67
Much as I hate to think that again, she will be portrayed as a villain, anyone else think the one not thrilled to be back will be Marrina? She hasn't exactly had a very happy life. And she wasn't on the cover that Jimenez drew. If there is ANY connection between the two, that could be why she wasn't included - but of course it is just speculation...Quote:
Originally Posted by Flightpath07
I don't know if McCann will take into account (or even if he knows about it) In Namor's past series, The Sub-Mariner released Marrina's trapped soul from the Black Knight's ebony blade (Namor discovered that when he "killed" her with it, it ate her soul, as it eats all the souls of those killed by it)....But I believe she said as her spirit dissipated , that she was at peace...or something to that effect (I could be recalling it inaccurately). So yes, she may not be happy in returning to life.
My thought was it may be Mac, since he's been jerked back and forth so much by death.
Now do you mean, you think Elizabeth will be portrayed as a villain or Marrina?
Dana
If the AF team does come back, then wouldnt you think Madison would be mad cuz the others came back and Lil died...or at least so far she is unless she is making an appearance but just not on the cover.
I wouldnt want it, but I would be more at peace if they came back to save Canada/world and then their spirits disappeared.
Im thinking cloning by the Master. Maybe the Master needs ALpha Flight for something he did wrong
I don't think Talisman is going to turn evil. I just think with her being the binder of spirits she may believe that she has the best chance to save herself after the others are alive. After all she can command spirits so why not her own. And please don't let the Alphans be brought back as clones. If it is the Master (gotta be) perhaps he just repaired the Flight after their runin with X!?n like what happened to him in his origin story from Vol.1. I DON'T WANT TO SEE ANOTHER CLONE OF MAC OR ANYONE ELSE FOR THAT MATTER. And Sypes, might I suggest taking in with you some issues of The Avengers so that you won't be confronted with a dilemma when you haven't got a square to spare.
DIGGER
Thinking the "Devil" is Llan.
I meant Marrina. It's hard to say who we were seeing after the ebony blade scenario. I always wanted Marrina to come back, so I assumed that her soul returned to her body, which we saw the Master keeping in stasis. Of course, it could be argued that her soul didn't return and that was why it was so easy to change her to the raging beast that Namor ended up killing. But then that doesn't explain him "reaching" her when he held her and dragged her to the trenches to kill her.Quote:
Originally Posted by cmdrkoenig67
Ugh. Why couldn't they have left her alone until someone wanted to use her in a positive way? Hopefully McCann can restore her to her former sweet glory...
Here's the DA gallery of Reilly Brown, the fellow doing interior art for the Chaos War: Alpha Flight one-shot.
http://reillybrown.deviantart.com/gallery/
Not bad. Slightly cartoony (which I do not count as a bad thing) and very expressive. I think this could be a good fit.
Again, needing to post these thoughts.
First, a quote from Mr McCann - "What about the Alphans in Space? Repeat that question 5 times and you’ll reach the appropriate answer. Seriously, though, you’ll want to read it to see where exactly Shaman, Vindicator, and Guardian have been and how Marrina has joined them."
Yes, where HAVE Shaman, Vindicator, and Guardian been? If in space, then how did Marrina join them? If NOT in space, then why mention it...?...?
Second, this is Chaos War - it is a GOD War, folks. Wrap your heads around it, the Great Beasts will be back, and AF is gonna lay the smack-down on them! Either that, or Alpha Flight is gonna JOIN with the Great Beasts (wow! wouldn't that tick off Snowbird?) to lay the ultimate, beyond-death smackdown on this Chaos dude...
Or...maybe they weren't dead after all. Only some of them are, the rest were the temporal copies. Maybe the Marrina promised is really Mar, all grown up! Maybe Alpha returns from space, just in time to help save the Earth!
I have read plenty of interviews with McCann, he is a die hard fan of the original team. I fully expect this return to be done the right way, no clones, no cyborgs, no men in womens bodies. Just a return of the originals the way Byrne had them.
I am clearly a novice at the whole Comics love, compared to most of you here! But I'm getting there... avengers = no good?
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Originally Posted by DIGGER
I doubt it (since McCann seems to be such a big fan of the Byrne years), but one never knows.Quote:
Originally Posted by -K-M-
Dana
I like it...He's very good.Quote:
Originally Posted by suzene
Dana
He only mentioned it because people bring up the temporal copies every time resurrecting Alpha is talked about and he wanted to discount it as a possibility since it's pretty ridiculous and convoluted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flightpath07
Ohhhh, NOW I know his work. He did some Agents of Atlas back-ups in Herc as well as the hilarious Prince of Power mini starring Amadeus Cho. And one of my fave Herc arcs too! Alpha Flight is in great hands. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by suzene
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After reading the articles on Comic Book Resources and Newsarama, anyone else beginning to suspect the villain of the comic will be Puck? While I think Puck as a hero-turned-villain doesn't work, it seems like that is what the interview is hinting. The author made it clear that Alpha Flight creates it's own villains. Add to that the fact that Puck won't be on the team. Finally think about an original Alpha Flight reunion without Puck.
Seems like that's what he's going for to me. I don't like the idea of Puck as a villain, so I hope I'm wrong.
Thoughts?
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I don't think Puck will be the villain. I figure he's in Hell as he killed a few people before joining AF (what mercenary and secret service agent in comics wouldn't?). Remember, Puck is likely helping Wolverine in his book in Hell. I doubt they'll take Puck out of Hell to fight him. Likely he's not on the team as he's the only one in Hell and can't be reached by the 'devil'.
If Jimenez/Wells/McCann is doing an AF ongoing Puck can return from Hell with Wolverine. In a week we just may find out a bit more about Puck, Talisman, Marrina, all of those favorites. I don't want too big of a team but who survives the Chaos War event is unknown.
Wouldn't it be nice if at FanEXpo we got an image of the new AF post-Chaos War, in shadow, just so we can speculate until true images are released? Ah, to dream.... ;)
"Wouldn't it be nice if at FanEXpo we got an image of the new AF post-Chaos War, in shadow, just so we can speculate until true images are released?"
Shadows of Omega Flight past?
Speaking of how fans will react to certain things put out by Marvel, after last week's column when you'd spoken on Alpha Flight being dead, there were more than a few people who felt kind of burned on the boards only to have you announce the expected "Alpha Flight" book as a Chaos War tie-in by Jim McCann and Reilly Brown.
Brevoort: We like to keep our readers on their toes here at T & A.
As was revealed earlier this week, the Alpha Flight project that we're doing is "Dead Alpha Flight" much like the "Dead Avengers" series we announced previously, both of which connect to the Chaos War storyline that Mark Paniccia and his group are heading up. So the fact that they're dead has not stopped them from having a book and appearing in print to baffle and befuddle us. [Laughs] The idea came from Mark and the creators who've been working on the "Chaos War" event – Greg Pak, Fred Van Lente and the rest – finding an opportunity where an Alpha Flight project would make sense within the context of what was going on. It gives us a chance to test the waters. If the teeming throngs of Alpha Flight fans that were ready to string us up last week go out and support this little project, maybe that will grease the wheels a little bit for a larger Alpha Flight series of one sort or another.
Hey, rplass...
I think I like this guy. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Reilly Brown
Wow. Just wow.
Looking at the portfolio, I have no problem with the artist chosen.
DIGGER
Where's the Reilly Brown quote from Suzene?Quote:
Originally Posted by suzene