I'M A TROOPER! I will not stop reading, I promise. No matter how much it breaks my heart.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flightpath07
And no matter how many Not Macs I get. I'll keep going. I won't give up.
I just may come here and cry, okay?
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I'M A TROOPER! I will not stop reading, I promise. No matter how much it breaks my heart.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flightpath07
And no matter how many Not Macs I get. I'll keep going. I won't give up.
I just may come here and cry, okay?
That is sort of what we do here; we are an online community of weepers. "Welcome to Alpha Flight Anonymous. My name is Flightpath07, and...oh, daggnabit...waaaaaaaaaaa!"Quote:
Originally Posted by Crackity Jones
No, seriously. If we didn't cry and complain here, we'd combust.
That's what we're here for. :)
Look at it this way: Remember when Brian K. Vaughan left Runaways, and was replaced by Joss Whedon, and it was hardly his best work? And then he left and got replaced by somebody less good?
That's the musical comedy version of this.
(Of course, if I've been mistaking your avatar this whole time, that all may mean nothing to you.)
~ Le Messor
"Monday is an awful way to spend 1/7th of your life."
hahaha. I get the gist, I think. But my avatar is Violet from Rat Queens.Quote:
Originally Posted by Le Messor
If you're not reading Rat Queens, you REEEEAAAALLLLLLYYYYY should be. :D
Just know, I may post a couple of "WTF" posts and just "Sobs" posts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flightpath07
And know that it's because I don't really read any spoilers, I try not to pay attention to covers, and I am already emotionally attached to every single character.
I hope it doesn't come to that. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Crackity Jones
Dang it! I KNEW i recognized that avatar!Quote:
Originally Posted by Crackity Jones
YES! Rat Queens is THE comic right now! Purely awesome!
Yes, yes it is. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Flightpath07
I read the rest of "The Gift" last night.
*sniffle*
It was soooo good. SO GOOD.
Why can't comics be written like that anymore?
Where everyone is a working team, but each character gets a bit of focus?
Your enthusiasm for Alpha Flight is awesome, CJ...as is your commitment to keep reading the Mantlo-era run. There are non-Byrne stories that are good (like The Gift), which confirms my belief that Alpha Flight can be handled well...if given the chance. Unfortunately, there aren't as many (good non-Byrne stories) as there could have been.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crackity Jones
Nor as many as good Byrne stories. Which, given the small number of Byrne stories, says something.
Word.Quote:
Originally Posted by Le Messor
Thank you, Garry/Al-Fan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garry/Al-Fan
I've been slacking in my AF reading lately. Just been enjoying the nice weather outside, and I have been working a lot.
But I promise to get back into the swing of reading.
We all slack off and slow down, post-Byrne.
Or, as Stephen King would put it, 'we all float down here'.
So it's not just me, good. Because I read through Byrne's run so quickly. I couldn't stop reading it. I think I am still recovering from the sadness of the fact that Byrne didn't write the run I am currently reading. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Flightpath07
It's the anticipation of knowing it's not going to be the same.
I wasn't ready for the change. :(
Just keep plugging away at it. There are still good moments to come.
~ Le Messor
"Money will not buy happiness, but it will let you be unhappy in nice places."
I read #31 tonight (FINALLY!).
And!
STFU, Heather. Someone give her some powers already.
http://s4.postimg.org/lsb9s7w59/3101.jpg
My fave parts were Northstar getting snarky with Heather.
How much longer is Heather going to irritate me? I used to like her. When Byrne wrote her. My sympathy for her has been stretched and used up already, and I'm only on the second Mantlo issue. :(
ETA: OH OH OH! And I loved Puck. LOVE HIM.
You should read some of the disparaging things he has had to say about Alpha Flight, and the characters within, since he left the series. The beauty of his run was in the flaws, and the humanity. And the only way i can realistically keep on liking Mr. Byrne is to see him the same way; flawed, and human.Quote:
I think I am still recovering from the sadness of the fact that Byrne didn't write the run I am currently reading.
The whiny Heather is part of why we're so down on Mantlo's run...
but at least it leads to something.
~ Le Messor
"Montana - At least our cows are sane!"
Ooo! Ooo! *Raises hand and flaps it over head*Quote:
Originally Posted by Le Messor
Is it a puppy in an Alpha flight collar?!
No, that was Byrne's run.
Now, a dog in a Wolverine costume...
Hey! My dog looks pretty awesome in her Alpha Flight collar. I thought it was kind of...you know, kind of neat how I did...the thing...with the title and put it on something. Why would you make fun of that?
I don't know specifics of what Byrne has said about Alpha Flight, all I know is that he didn't much care for it.
I started #32 last night, but I am not done with it yet. I know I am not supposed to like whiny Heather, but now that she has the suit, she is cocky, and I don't care for what she said about Mac. I'll post up a scan later.
Nobody's making fun. ?
I think it was Jason Eberly who posted a picture of a dog in a Wolverine costume; but whoever it was, that actually happened!
Heather in the costume is what I meant by her whininess leading to something, btw.
~ Le Messor
"Most of us, when all is said and done, like what we like and make up reasons for it afterwards."
~ Soren F. Peterson
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Originally Posted by Le Messor
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Originally Posted by Crackity Jones
http://alphaflight.net/showthread.ph...ll=1#post92812Quote:
Originally Posted by Le Messor
'Twas KM:
Attachment 3852
Sorry, KM, for misremembering.
I agree. There was no making of the funny. Everyone knows, if there is one thing I am not, it's funny.
Well...some have said "funny-looking"...and there is that odd odor...
Just read all of #32.
Wtf did I just read?
Whhhyyyyyy. WWWWHHHHHYYYYYYY.
PUCK.
WWWWWWWWWHHHHHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY.
So, seriously, Puck hasn't always been a dwarf?
This has me seriously WTFing.
I'm reposting this again....well....because I can
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...ps88d354dc.png
That is BRILLIANT.
Yup.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crackity Jones
Am I the only one who has/had a difficult time digesting this bit of news?Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil
Not by a long shot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crackity Jones
I mean, remember how Byrne went to the trouble of researching the correct medical term?
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Originally Posted by Crackity Jones
Yeah, CJ, um...this is just one of MANY Alpha Flight "inconsistencies" in the writing and characterization...honestly it was like, either some people never read Byrne's Alpha Flight before taking over it themselves, or they maybe just really hated him?Quote:
Originally Posted by Le Messor
Actually, maybe your term was better; this is one of several "WTF's" that have sadly gone on over the years...
"Jean..." *sniffle sniffle snikt*Quote:
Originally Posted by -K-M-
Yeah... The Heather stuff I could overlook, but the Puck stuff is where it starts to go downhill quickly... We still have Elf-gate to come...Quote:
Originally Posted by Flightpath07
I'm having a hard time overlooking any of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil
Heather is a super disappointment to me because she was one of my faves in Byrne's run, and now she is either just whining, being *****y, or being demanding (TRAIN ME NOW).
And am I missing something? Because it keeps being mentioned how Heather went from Mac's secretary, to lover, to wife.
That is not how I recall it. There was no time for "lover" to be a separate mention.
She showed up at his house with groceries and one of the first sentences out of her mouth was the recommendation of marriage.
Didn't they get married, like, the next day?
I read #33, and while I liked it a little better towards the end, I feel like somebody stole my characters and replaced them with strangers. :(
No, you're not missing anything. You're not out of order. The Bill Mantlo's out of order! The whole frickin' system is out of order! Marvel is out of order! Justice is out of order! The vending machine next to the men's room, that sells candies and coke is out of order!Quote:
Originally Posted by Crackity Jones
It wasn't quite that quick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crackity Jones
Volume 2 even has a -1 issue that deals with their marriage, but...
Welcome to my nightmare.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crackity Jones
That's pretty much how I feel about not only Mantlo's run, but v2 as well. In fact, all the post-1 volumes (some of them just had more enjoyable strangers than others).
v1 does get better, though (imho). Just, not in a hurry. And it'll never be as good as it was under Byrne.
~ Le Messor
"Most of the evils of life arise from man's being unable to sit still in a room."
~ Blaise Pascal
I read that as "candles and coke" at first.Quote:
Originally Posted by Le Messor
Thanks for the reassurance. I am going to read #34. Knowing that Puck is really just has the whatever-of-some-sword living in him that has shrunk and causes his pain. I guess Mantlo thought our imaginations needed that? Puck needed some sort of history boost?Quote:
Originally Posted by Le Messor
Oh! I forgot that scan I was going to post yesterday (or some day, don't remember). I had to read this a few times to convince myself Heather wasn't completely heartless.
http://s17.postimg.org/ppw3o2xy7/3201.jpg
The most bizarre thing about the Puck storyline, and Mantlo's run as a whole, is that in the Amazing Heroes interview with him & Byrne for the switch-over he seemed so knowledgeable and respectful of Byrne's run and seemed to have loads of good, respectful ideas...
What happened???Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil
Because Heather just got even WORSE in #34.
This is really bad. :(
Heather won't get better, I'm afraid.
It will be a little better during Mantlo's run, but mostly it's after that that things get good again.
Hey, you'll eventually get to Jim Lee's first artwork for Marvel. If you stick around long enough.
~ Le Messor
"He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire."
~ Winston Churchill