Alpha/Omega

Since talk of a new AF (or whatever) title began, I thought that Wolvie would make a good addition for a few reasons. Onem he was originally intended to lead the team to begin with. Two, he's happy enough working for the American governemt, so why not the Canadian. It's certainly no worse, no better. Three, he's very popular.

As for Omega Flight and it's motely line-up, I think that the idea was to break "the glass" completely, reestablish the credibility of Marvel Canada unhindered by preconceived notions of the good or bad runs, and then maybe perhaps begin to gradually reintroduce something more classic.

It is of course an absurd suggestion that the premise or make-up of the original Byrne/Claremont Alpha Flight, as they appeared in the UXM was flawed. They didn't spin their own title out of a handful of appearances in UXM cause fans thought they sucked.

And it was precisely a succesive string of bad writers with all kinds of convoluted ideas that destroyed the title until it became the joke embodied in vol.3.

But what has been written has been written. And whether or not Marvell wants to enforce continuity, all the crap is still in the minds of fans. So break the fricking glass, by all means.

I've heard that Oeming is a great writer, so I look forward to seeing where he takes us. No it's not Alpha Flight. And as a fan of the classic idea of AF, all I can say at this point is, thank ye gods!!

Hopefully the switch of the name from Alpha to Omega isn't an allusion to what is planned for MU Canada if this title flops.

Great points there. But I would hate to see Wolverine in this new title. I know he was "supposed" to originaly lead the team but, he's in every other frickin' title in the Marvel line-up. And I quite frankly am sick and tired of him. I tolerate him in New Avengers only because of Spider-Woman and Captain America.

I really, really hate Bendis by the way. :evil:

What do you guys think of these? Anyone stand out to you?

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I'm quite taken with the fifth one (bottom right). That fractured Maple Leaf design immediately caught my eye.

Guardian. Apart from killing off the classic Alpha Flight off panel, what exactly has Mr Bendis done to you, to deserve your disdain :?: :? :)

Thanks, that's my favorite too (that's why it's the biggest :wink: )

Here's some more title banners:

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Ahhhh... tempted out of lurkdom by the smell of a new series. :)

Hiya everyone! Im cautiously optimistic about Omega Flight. Am pretty sure that we have a good idea of who the members are. Im just hoping its not Wolvie in the Guardian suit. :D

Canucklehead! Fantastic logo work! My favorite is still the first omega in the maple leaf, though the simpler version also looks cool.

Canucklehead: first pic; top right. I like the white / red combo.

The second pic: last logo.

- le Messor
"An act of courage is not done by someone who is fearless, but by someone who is filled with fear and does it anyway."

My "This looks like a cool book with ties to a concept I enjoy" sense has gone off. I think Omega Flight will be good, and fun.

My Alpha Flight sense isn't tingling.
Some of you know that having both those words on a cover once a month is nowhere near enough to make Alpha Flight to me. One doesn't even come close.

I'm going to keep this one in 'Marvel Misc' until it's big enough to move out on its own.

So...

Marvel do a few things, make a couple of character choices, that imply a new Alpha Flight series is in the works.
Rumours start to fly.

They grow. We hear about characters not being usable because somebody wants them later. More rumours.

We question Marvel; loose talk and innuendo.

Then, finally, announcement! We hear about a new series that is definitely in the works!

The writer talks to one or all of us. He tells us that he's a fan of the old series, really respects Alpha Flight, especially the Byrne years.
We decide we respect his courage in talking directly to us, the fans. We don't want to scare him off.
So we try, some of us, to beoptimistic in front of him.

Then we see the first image; speculation and more rumours. Who are these people? What characters are we seeing? Some of them are clearly Alphans...
But then we find out that even some of the Alphans aren't Alphans; just characters based on them.

But the arguments start. "That's not Alpha!"
"It says Alpha Flight."
"I want more than those words."
"This is the only way we'll get Alpha Flight; you have to show loyalty to the book."
"This isn't the book. This is not what I signed on for."
"What if X-Men readers had said that about Gt Sized #1?"
"What if? They still got a team of strangers. Is it supposed to make them feel better that this alien title that has nothing to do with their comic was good for a while, and is still insanely successful? How does that help if it's not their book?"
"Just give it a chance, is all I ask. We want Alpha Flight, don't we?"
"Yes. But that picture is not a picture of Alpha Flight."
etc...

Am I the only one who 'Wow, this is familiar'?

- Le Messor
"Right now, I have déjÃ* vu and amnesia at the same time."
- Steve Wright

OK, last annoying thing I'll post, honest lol

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Canucklehead, I know sod all about graphical fingemies, but as much as I love that mock up, I think it would have a bigger impact if the Flight part was a little jazzier. Just a suggestion :-)

BTW, nothing annoying about those graphics whatsoever.

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Originally Posted by DelBubs

Canucklehead, I know sod all about graphical fingemies, but as much as I love that mock up, I think it would have a bigger impact if the Flight part was a little jazzier. Just a suggestion :-)

BTW, nothing annoying about those graphics whatsoever.

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Hey thanks for the suggestion, much appreciated. I had tried a bolder "Flight", but it kind of became a block and my eyes didn't know where to look. I'm partially dislexic so everything I design needs to have a big contrast lol. I will take your suggestion and try to make the Flight jazzier or sexier.

OK, just making sure. I hate posting multiple things not knowing if people are saying "God, not another one! We don't care about your stupid pictures!" lol

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Originally Posted by Legerd

Oh I know it won't be AF. I'm just tired of hearing everyone talk like the characters and the team's premise were the reason the original title kept failing. It wasn't. It was an utter lack of ability and creativity on the part of the various writers and a lack of commitment from Marvel.

If there was a failure when it came to AF the company shouldn't blame their product.

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I have to agree and disagree with this. Even the great John Byrne has said he sent this team on the road to doom. It was never intended to be an ongoing series, and the first death of Guardian pretty much laid the groundwork for the eventual failure of the book. So, even the writer we all profess to be the best Alpha has ever had is responsible in some way for their demise.

I say give Oeming Flight a try and see what comes of it. It could be really cool down the road to see the orginals come in as a rival outfit, with Mac ripping the suit off of the imposter Guardian for a major reveal.

Here's some retro titles: :P

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Here's some retro titles: :P

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Yes, that's better, the first one, I mean. As for the Beer, I don't like Molson, I'm a Unibroue fan (Now your talking about beer that taste something!) and I don't mind Sleeman.

After pondering Omega Flight during the weekend, my opinion on the new series has changed. I'M FREAKING STOKED!

Guardian is back. Sweet!
Elizabeth is on the team. Great!
(Sure it may not be Mac or Elizabeth, but Im being optimistic)

As long as they don't do something silly like put an American in the Guardian suit I think Im going to love this new series.

Im putting my faith in the creative team.

As much as Marvel pisses me off sometimes, I dig some of their other recent moves.

Iron Fist getting his own series again. Moon Knights ongoing. Heroes For Hire. Omega Flight. Now if only Darkhawk can get his own series back. ;)

MikeM