Quesada is Editor-In-Chief, Phil....He has a lot of pull in how things work at Marvel. No bashing, witch-hunts or insulting there.
Dana
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Quesada is Editor-In-Chief, Phil....He has a lot of pull in how things work at Marvel. No bashing, witch-hunts or insulting there.
Dana
Nice to hear you are interested again Seng. Kolins did the art, I don't see anything Liefeldian about it. This cover looks diffenent from his in-book style. The "painted" colour and inks might have something to do with it looking different.Quote:
Originally Posted by sengsterooney
Ben
Doesn't mean he has final say, and doesn't change his birth name to "Joke"Quote:
Originally Posted by cmdrkoenig67
You got me, Phil.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil
Dana
Excellent idea Obi-Wan! I'll buy at least one book from every comic shop in my town. I've got 3! Assuming I like the book. But I'm 100% sure I will! 8)Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil
I'll be ordering two copies of Issue one from one store (Newbury Comics). I may use a banner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil
Are we being asked to advertize a flight series again(just like Vol 3)?
Dana :?
I don't fell it's Liefeldian, but yes, like you, I'm a little bit scandalised by Talisman costume. Mostly, In real life, I know that's impossible to wear in combat whitout everything falling appart. I also know, it's a comic book and reality is not really important, because if it where the case, women would not by with hight eels(sp?) or keeping long hair not attached.Quote:
Originally Posted by sengsterooney
The rest of the costume I like, I would just had hide that big opening, by lacing it, I don't know. But most of all, I was thinking if it were in character to have to kind of costume for Elisabeth and I don't know. Look at the original costume, no underwear is possible there. So, I guess if you expend a little more the concept, it's possible for Talisman to wear that.
So all that to say, I don't like it, but if it's in charcter, I got nothing against it. As long as she do not turn up to be bimbo Talisman, I'm ok with it.
In some way, yes, but for Lobdell Flight we were trying to keep the series going and get a new writer/direction so that it would become Alpha Flight and not Tinky Winky Flight. This time it's to make things last with the current creative team doing the writing as Omega Flight, as we expect it to be good from issue #1 on, not goofy and getting sillier as you move along.... :?Quote:
Originally Posted by cmdrkoenig67
Naw, I think this is a different matter completely. I think the only reason Marvel let Lobdell do his book was because of what he's done for them in the past, but they certainly had no commitment to the title at that point in time. From everything I gatherd in talking to Schmidt, Marvel is behind getting this mini to sell, and should it sell well enough, it will be on thier list of stuff to publish in maxi later. I get the impression we will see advertising for this. They are being plugged in the CIVIL WAR: THE INITIATIVE There has already been an add in Marvel Previews, and the impression I got from Schmidt in an earlier interview is that we can expect to see a several page preview in the next Marvel Previews.Quote:
Originally Posted by cmdrkoenig67
Ben
Seriously, if they promoted "Major changes for Wolverine" in the first issue it would work. I'm all for using such a petty and cheap tactic!Quote:
Originally Posted by cmdrkoenig67
Tinky Winky Flight! :lol: Sad but true I suppose. I've been tempted a little bit to pick up vol 3 as my LCS has the two trades for it. But I'm sure if I spent $30 US on it I get pissed and burn them after the 1st. issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mokole
Assuming all this press comes to fruition, this is good news to hear. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben
When did the prior Fight for Flight have a stated objective of a writer change?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mokole
Major changes? ...Like maybe Logan (or James...or whatever) is only in two books a month (AF and his own solo title)? I'd be up for that too.Quote:
Originally Posted by SephirothsKiller
Dana
...when he isn't in it, dropping the sales off, probably dramatically. Depending on Wolverine to sell Omega or Alpha Flight would prove that whoever pitched the idea hasn't thought through their conception of the team/book very well. Omega/Alpha would eventually have to hold its own without Wolverine, and if there isn't anything to go on besides him, the series would be pretty much doomed, anyway.
This I think is true: Omega Flight is not X-Men anymore than Alpha Flight was X-Men.
Believe that we will get a good, complete story in 5 months. I do.
1) Instead of claymation-man, readers are getting The Wrecking Crew.
2) Instead of Centennial and Yukon Jack, readers are getting Sasquatch and Talisman.
3) Instead of a group of newbies who were held out to be Alpha Flight,
readers are getting a lot of the original (true) Alpha Flight.
... Who isn't pretending to BE Alpha Flight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garry/Al-Fan
Dissing Centennial? Whaaat? How can you diss a super old guy who seems to have the power to have the strength of an average 20 year old??? How!!!?Quote:
Originally Posted by Garry/Al-Fan
Besides, several times during volume 3 he made a comment about how rediculous things were getting and I thought to myself: "Even he gets how bad Lobell is!"
...And I still want MMJr to be Guardian. Lost Innocence is the best Innocence!
...and I, too, appreciated that Centennial knew how absurd the entire series was, but that doesn't change the fact that he and Yukon Jack are not well-liked and will never truly be Alpha Flight.
He wouldn't such a bad Guardian, but again, Oeming said you'd only ever see him again at his gravesite, if that. 8)Quote:
Originally Posted by SephirothsKiller
I'm not sure it was ever stated, but Quesada hinted once that if the series wasn't liked a new direction/change of writer was possible to get the team out of the funnies. I know that's true. And I know people bought the comic hoping it would improve. I know I did, I had high hopes for the Flashback arc but it failed pretty bad, outside of Henry's art of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by kozzi24
Garry.....That is in no way what I had in mind for Wolverine's presense in the book to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garry/Al-Fan
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Originally Posted by Garry/Al-Fan
A lot of the original AF???? In possibly two/three members? Suuuure.
Dana
Ah, we know so little of what Omega Flight is to bring us. Will it be Mac or Walter as Guardian (I honestly think the Captain America rumours are goofy)? MML even? Will anyone else but Shaman be dead from New Avengers (I saw the part where Wolverine says to Postman Mike "You killed heroes" today, so now I get that quote's context). Given that, I feel Shaman, MML, Zuzha are dead for sure, Puck and Heather likely (but that is soooo a guess), Mac maybe, especially if he isn't Guardian. But really I'm guessing on pretty much everything; other things cloud my mind too, so my guesses could be getting worse :wink:
I'm with you, not really trying to start controversy. I want Omega Flight to succeed. Don't really wish any bad luck on Mighty Avengers, just wish Omega Flight got the same amount of promotion---should at least have been in the 2007 Wizard preview---that MA is getting. A fair shot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mokole
Previous post is about the up-grade in characters. In comparison, the ones so far mentioned are more popular than the ones that aren't the original AF.
Yeah, I'm with you, I'd rather have nothing at all. :roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by cmdrkoenig67
...it would be logical to say something about what happened to Alpha Flight (which, as they appeared in New Avengers# 16, included Guardian, Vindicator, Sasquatch, Puck I, and Shaman (forgot him, of all people) a good portion of original AF). IMO
I don't think another nail in the coffin is what anyone wants, and bringing back the less-popular characters too soon would hamper OF's chances to succeed.
So much for Irony (Ben where's the irony smiley?) I'm with you Gary, there should be some closure to what happened to the originals, but if they are dead then some of the survivors in OF are better than no AF characters at all.
Cut it out, Del...All I'm saying is that 2 or 3 Alphans is not a lot on a team of six....There's no need to be nasty. Half of the team isn't even Canadian, but Marvel is calling them a Canadian team (I'm guessing just because they're based there).Quote:
Originally Posted by DelBubs
Dana
EDITED for my mis-spelling of "Canadian".
EDITED for more flippin' typos...AAARRGGG!!
Dana, chill. If I was trying to be nasty then I would have been obviously nasty. I was just trying to point out in a round about way that some AF is better than no AF, obviously if you want to take it as me being nasty then I can't stop you.
First let me say, I am GREATLY anticipating Omega Flight.
That caveat out of the way, I harken Alpha to Star Wars, back when Dark Horse started doing the thousand and a half minis.
I'd rather have NO Alpha Flight than BAD Alpha Flight.
Yes, Volume 3, I'm looking at you.
On the vol 3 thing Jeff, I'm 110% with you.
Agreed. Imagine how much bigger this new series would be if there'd been no Alpha series since V2.
Huge.
Non since vol 1 would have been fine by me, but that's a topic for a whole new thread which I'll get around to starting one day :-)
Puh-lease....What was the :roll: emoticon for then? We obviously don't agree on many things concerning Omega Flight...I've never intentionally flamed you about your views on them. Just because you feel differently is no reason to make sarcastic, nasty (yes nasty) remarks.Quote:
Originally Posted by DelBubs
Dana
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Originally Posted by kozzi24
That's partly because you happen to like Spider-Woman II, USAgent, etc...In addition to AF (and that's fine), Some of us don't (that's also fine), Kozzi.
I agree....Omigawd, Del....We agree again. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by kozzi24
Dana
True, but the huge change in Marvel's thinking toward Alpha Flight....thus the creation of Omega Flight is mostly (or entirely) due to the suckitude that was Volume 3. If not for Volume 3...We might be seeing a real Alpha Flight series.Quote:
Originally Posted by Canucklehead
Dana :x
If you actually read the further posts you would see that I agree with Jeff to, which would explain my comment about nothing since Vol 1, as my opinions re vol 2 and 3 are out there in the forum for everyone to see.Quote:
Originally Posted by cmdrkoenig67
I get the impression you choose to ignore the things I say that can't be used as a stick to beat me with. I can deal with that, but as to nasty comments, it prolly was nasty with a little tongue in cheek thrown in for good measure. Anyone not looking for a chance to prostrate themselves in abject martyrdom on the altar of the fallen Alphans would prolly have seen that.
You may not have flamed me about our differences, then again I didn't flame you, we had a difference of opinion, I tried to nip it in the bud by PM'ing you and you threw my attempts at reconcilliation back in my face. Since then I've tried to be cordial in response to your posts. I prolly was snippy, but when I see this forum being portrayed as something it's not on other forums it irks and I reacted to that. I could have tempered my response, but let emotion lead the way. In future I shall try to be less confrontational.
I did read your later posts and commented on them...If you didn't notice.Quote:
Originally Posted by DelBubs
I'm merely reacting to a sarcastic and very pointed post from you...Directed at me. The Martyr comment above is another example of what I mean...But I'll ignore that additional nasty remark. Thanks ever so much for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by DelBubs
Not true...I chose to keep my responses very small, because at the time I was very pissed (and your "attempts at reconcilliation" were sarcastic then too). I don't think displaying what was said in PMs for the whole board to see is terribly wise either, hence I never said anything about it...You obviously don't feel the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by DelBubs
"when I see this forum being portrayed as something it's not on other forums" What do you mean by that? Nevermind...Maybe you should PM me about it, if you intend to answer.Quote:
Originally Posted by DelBubs
Thanks for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by DelBubs
Dana
Okay, I think the boards have had enough of our bickering. So for anything I have said recently that has annoyed or upset you I apologise unreservedly. The initial source of our disagreements I can't change and would prolly choose not to as I stand by my sentiments at that time. However that is in the past and I think it should stay there.
As regards my other concerns that I mentioned in my previous posts, again I will drop anything relating to them in future posts. I'm here to discuss Alpha/Omega and all things connected. The rest is embarassing as at our age we should really know better.
Hey! Who're you calling old?! :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by DelBubs
Yeah but before you surreptitiously removed your birthdate from your profile :wink: I noticed :shock: Granted I do have a few years on you, but I'm preserved in alcohol :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by cmdrkoenig67