Have we seen the sketches? And do we know why plans changed?Quote:
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Have we seen the sketches? And do we know why plans changed?Quote:
Originally Posted by rplass
I actually didn't mind the writeup. Though I would love to see Jeffries at his former glory, the man is bound to be messed up for a while. Brainwashed by Dept H, then the Zodiac, then Weapon X? Then he lives in isolation, is finally reunited with his wife who was held prisoner and hurt by his creations and then is killed in battle? It's no wonder he is a damaged man. And though he is certainly powerful using the Box armor, it is completely understandable why he has distanced himself from it. I want to see him used more and used well, but seeing him a little off isn't out of the realm of credibility to me given what he has gone through...too bad the X-men is so overcrowded right now that no one has room to develop his story further...Quote:
Originally Posted by rplass
I knew I'd seen it somewhere on here:
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http://www.alphaflight.net/showthrea...ine-Marvel-Age-...)
Thanks - I never saw that thread! I like the designs - interesting that some changed and that Breakdown isn't included.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil
Seeing Laura and Goblyn together, it made me think back on the first time we saw the Derangers in the containment tubes. Who was the other person in the tube with Goblyn supposed to be? It wasn't Laura. Was it another super-powered individual that managed to escape? Or was she meant to be...um...Goblyn's lunch?
I always wondered about that other girl in the containment tube with Goblyn too, Ahab (I lol'ed at your idea of her being lunch). I'm guessing she was some sort of art error?...I dunno. She could possibly be the springboard for a new character, though.
Dana
I remember that thread.
Yeah, I imagine it was an art error, or that they changed Laura's look after printing.
'Shadow' is a good name for the Deans.
- Le Messor
"I don't have any solution but I certainly admire the problem."
~ Ashleigh Brilliant
I was actually suprised the Master of the World didn't get a mention in Heroic Age - Villians due to the fact he and Cap met in Avengers (well not directly).
Could be the fact he is believed to be dead though.
Apparently Captain America isn't following Chaos War, where 'everybody' is dead!Quote:
Originally Posted by -K-M-
Might be of interest
http://uncle-gus.deviantart.com/gallery/26429536
especially
http://uncle-gus.deviantart.com/gall...29536#/d2xshnh
Thanks Loki! Been awhile since I saw somebody draw Manbot, that is for sure...
I don't think I've ever seen anybody draw him... but it's been a while since we've seen the results of it, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flightpath07
Pedant.
Me, I mean.
I was thinking more along the lines of "too literal"...but pedant will work in a pinch! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Le Messor
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This week's 'Blockbusters of the Marvel Universe' has a tiny Alpha Flight appearance: Murmur, Wild Child, Radius and Windshear - the 2pg spread of depowered mutants from New Avengers #18 is reprinted in the entry for House of M. The book is only about Marvel Events, so no individual character has any entries. Pretty cool book IMHO, especially if you missed out on some events from a while back.
Love,
rplass
Weird I never even see the solicits for this, I need to pick it up but wont be going to the shop till the weekend :(
Head over to the official forum for the OHOTMU books to keep up with solicits, KM.
Oh wow, thanks.
Solicit for May 2011 with Jeffries on the cover!!!:
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X-MEN: EARTH’S MUTANT HEROES #1
Written by VARIOUS
Select Character Artwork by GUS VAZQUEZ
Cover by KALMAN ANDRASOFSZKY
All things mutants take center stage in this all-new collection of Handbook-style profiles! Featuring X-Men members (Madison Jeffries/Box, Paulie Provenzano, Wraith/Hector Rendoza), trainees (Onyxx, Ink/Eric Gitter), allies (Fred Duncan, Tom Corsi, Candy Southern, Shortpack), the evil (Cortex, X-Cutioner, Amelia Voght, Zaladane, Black Womb) and the lesser-known (Litterbug, Jazz, Arize, Jack in the Box, Crule), and updates for the big guns (Professor X, Magneto, Emma Frost, Beast, Mystique). And because you demanded it: Joseph gets a profile at last! Plus: brand-new Gus Vazquez art for the majority of profiles!
64 PGS. /Handbook/Rated T+ …$4.99
Nightcrawler is so cute there!
That's a BAMF not Nightcrawler. :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Le Messor
I imagine they'll be some Northstar reference in the 'Paulie Provenzano' profile if I'm thinking of the right guy!
I knew that... :oops:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tawmis
- Le Messor
"I have an excellent track record, although I am not a horse."
~ Alleged line on resume
Man, I miss that Nightcrawler mini-series with the Bamfs...
Actually, i own the first three issues, need to get the 4th one.
The massive 14-volume Hardcover series is being reprinted bimonthly in paperback. Since Alpha Flight appeared in all 14, you need to buy all 14 issues! Each issue will contain all of the 240pg of the original plus 16pp of updated material in each volume. No news on who gets an update but I bet Alpha Flight will be getting an update on the team entry, and very hopefully many others. I'm thinking the resurrected Alphans (Shaman, Puck, Mac and Heather) will have new info, but Northstar, Jeffries, Sasquatch, Snowbird, and Aurora all have a good shot of getting an update but who knows!?!? Updates might have new art by Gus Vazquez, but that's also speculation. Amazon lists a release date for #1 of October 2011 so we have time to ruminate. Note that Marrina never had an entry in the 14 volume series and she has had the most significant update of all Alphans!
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Originally Posted by rplass
As well as the cover illustration Jeffries gets a 3(!) page entry with a new illustration, of his current grey-ing hillbilly look, by Gus Vasquez.
I haven't read through iot all, but it's a pretty solid showing.
Yeah, it's pretty solid. Has a good batch of new info on recent issues and the third page is nice nice nice, but there are a few nitpicky errors (related to when he first met Bochs which was in AF #16, not as described in this issue). The new info is what I'm looking at and it's really good, covering events from his recruitment into the X-Men in Uncanny #505 to Uncanny X-Men Annual #3. The last entry for Jeffries in the Hardcover volume #6 ended exactly at issue #505 so that's all new info.
Where does it say they met?Quote:
Originally Posted by rplass
'coz the actual series is inconsistent about it, too. (Like you, I'd go with Byrne.)
- Le Messor
"The difference between what we do and what we are capable of doing would suffice to solve most of the world's problems."
~ Ghandi
In Alpha Flight #46, Jeffries mentions to Kara that he and Bochsie go way back, but I think he was just exaggerating because clearly the first time they met was in AF #16. Continuity explanations have to work around that fixed point.
This first issue came out today and yes, there is an update for Alpha Flight, with illustrations, several taken from the new series, which is darn awesome. It's all up to date - up to the very end of issue #4 of the new series which just came out! Can't get any more up to date than this, folks. In the update, there is a new team illustration, the cover for Alpha Flight #6, which is billed as 'current roster' - note that image does not include Heather.Quote:
Originally Posted by rplass
There is a new grid of head shots for each of the members, no new artwork in there, but it's very well done with better images and a more uniform presentation.
EDIT: Nemesis now has two head shots: Nemesis (Jane) and Nemesis (Weatherly). Gee, I thought it was the same Nemesis. Sigh.
Also, the adventures Heather had in Alpha Flight Annual #2 with Alpha Prime is mentioned in the Alpha Flight update along with a picture of the Alpha Prime team.
Aurora has a single paragraph update (no illustration) accounting for her time with Team Northstar Extreme Snowsports (inaccurately calling her "joint CEO"), up to and including her membership in the v4 version of Alpha Flight, and of course she is on the cover (it's the same image as the one used on the dust jacket for Hardcover #1)
Of course Alpha Flight's entry and Aurora's entry are reproduced in their entirety from issue #1 as well and Marrina appears again in the Avengers entry as she did in issue #1 of the Hardcover series.
Bottom line: if you didn't get the HC get this! Even if you did, get this anyway for the new info!
Love,
rplass
Great recap, thanks!
Yes, we got confirmation from Scott Lobdell that Amelia Weatherly was not the same Nemesis we'd seen before, and that Nemesis is a role that passes from one host to the next - so there's three we know of, the one who fought Deadly Ernest and the two who joined Alpha Flight at different points in the group's history. The main entry, though largely reprinting the HC entry, has a few tweaks to reflect that correction.Quote:
Originally Posted by rplass
Thanks for the explanation, Loki. I figured that was how it happened. I can deal with multiple Nemesii - but I was so used to the idea that there was only one.
EDIT: Does Isabel have a last name or is it just Isabel?
Love,
rplass
It always made more sense that Nemesis was more than one woman...But IIRC at the time of Volume 3, Scott was claiming all the appearances of Nemesis were the same woman.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loki
Dana
Isabel St. Ives. And it should be in the entry, so now you've got me worried that the correction wasn't made properly. The second Nemesis was Jane Thorne.Quote:
Originally Posted by rplass
I'd heard at the time they didn't know her name, and were calling her Jane as in 'Jane Doe'. Which helped with the whole 'they're all one woman' theory.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loki
Wait... Thorne... as in Alec Thorne?
Wild mass guessing: begin!
- Le Messor
"If a cow laughed, would milk come out her nose?"
I suspect the matching surname with Smart Alec is just a coincidence. But only James Hudnall knows for sure, as he was the one who provided the name.Quote:
Originally Posted by Le Messor
Certainly there is nothing in any textual source to link Alexander Thorne (Smart Alec) with Jane Thorne (Nemesis). I think it's just co-incident.
Love,
rplass
Given what we've been given since the demise of of vol 1 (Omega Flight excluded), I doubt any writer of AF since then would be that subtle.
Isabel's surname, on the other hand, isn't coincidental. But then, I think everyone knew that already.
So a logical question is, what happened to Nemesis II to cause Nemesis III to exist? Is she is no longer in the land of the living?
Actually, I am more interested in whether ANY of the Nemesis's (Nemeses? Nemeseses?)are considered to be in the land of the living. I've always viewed the character as some sort of avatar of death itself, herself caught between living and dead and therefore able to impart that same state to others (or usher them into death, if necessary). Like maybe her sword sucks the life from her, and when she is no longer usable to it, it discards her and finds another (now i am lost in memories of Michael Moorcock's Elric of Melnibone!)? Just my thoughts.Quote:
So a logical question is, what happened to Nemesis II to cause Nemesis III to exist? Is she is no longer in the land of the living?