So, it's been stated in interviews for Volume 4 that the team will be betrayed by one of their own members.
For fun, who do you think it will be and why?
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So, it's been stated in interviews for Volume 4 that the team will be betrayed by one of their own members.
For fun, who do you think it will be and why?
From the interview:
It sounds like there will be a few heroes who join with the gov't against AF, and I'm guessing it will be some of the other non-original members like Talisman, Earthmover, Persuasion, etc. Characters who are still around, but not appearing in any titles.Quote:
Van Lente said that while the government turns against Alpha Flight, but some members of Alpha Flight side with the government.
I reckon some of the characters from vol 3. Nemesis immediately springs to mind.
I can't see it being a non-Byrne character personally. Talisman at a push.
Part of me wants to say Sas, but after CW:AF I think that'd be a bit much.
The mention of Northstar's terrorist past makes me think he'll be very anti-government so it won't be him.
The way FVL's mentioned fleshing out Guardian's character a lot more, so that could go either way as either a very pro-government character or as a great leader.
In short... I'm still torn.
My shirt is torn, too.
I didn't think of it 'til I saw this poll, but I voted for 'somebody else'. It occurs to me that it's often the least suspected person... the butler did it.
Like in Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, when I knew people would die, but I never expected one of them to be ****!!!
(edit: spoilers removed.)
- Le Messor
Ned, being modest: "I dunno... Maybe somebody else should get the job..."
Homer: "I'm somebody else!"
Crowd: "He's right!"
I voted Puck. Have to stay with my original thought. He's in Hell, being manipulated by the god of fear.
Of the others listed, most likely candidates to me are Sasquatch (who has shown himself to side with the government over rational thought on Omega Flight) and Vindicator (can't think of anything more intense than Heather and Mac coming to blows).
I picked Snowbird. I never thought she had all of her screws in. A well-written Snowbird has a single-minded childish mind and would fall prey to making a choice out of blind trust or faith in something that an adult wouldn't believe.
I'm thinking it'll be one of the later-era Alphans, but out of the Byrne creations, I'd say Walter on an outside bet -- he's not a malicious soul, but he has a history of making decisions that should be filed under "WTF were you thinking, dude?"
That is one Department H file I'd love to get my hands on...Quote:
decisions that should be filed under "WTF were you thinking, dude?"
Aurora. Wasn't she part of that dreadful Weapon X title a few years back? God knows what state her head is in now. I actually gave up on buying any title with an X on it years ago, I'm far more selective, so I may have missed something big (like she is no longer schizophrenic etc etc).
Puck, also, as a second.
Marrina, as a third. She's always slicing some ally open. *sigh*
I was going to say Snowbird too but isnt she FVL's favorite character?
I voted for Mac and it seems he may actually be the one now. I guess we'll see soon-ish.
Dana
I too just reluctantly voted Guardian. Maybe his guilt factor with being the "poster boy" for Canada makes him go work for the Government. I really hope it isn't him though.{guardian}
DIGGER
But he's the only one not on a poster...
{guardian2}
- Le Messor
"I ran out of gas! I got a flat tire! I locked my keys in the car! An old friend came in from out of town! I lost my tux at the cleaners! Someone stole my car! There was an earthquake! A terrible flood! Locusts! It wasn't MY FAULT!"
~ Jake Blues
Or it could be a deliberate mislead and he is on a poster, but he's the only one still uncaptured and on the loose...
i'm assuming its not any of the originals. i think fvl worked way to hard to get the originals together, just to break them up. PLUS, the solicits say a "closest allies". heres the solicit:
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ALPHA FLIGHT #1 (of 8)
Written by GREG PAK & FRED VAN LENTE
Penciled by DALE EAGLESHAM
Cover by PHIL JIMENEZ
FEAR ITSELF TIE-IN
A FEAR ITSELF maxi-series spinoff! Do you fear…your country turning on you? Alpha Flight has long been the protector of an entire nation…but what happens when that nation needs to be protected from itself? New York Times best-selling authors Greg Pak and Fred Van Lente, along withred-hot artist Dale Eaglesham, bring back the team you demanded—the original Alpha Flight! Sasquatch, Snowbird, Northstar and Aurora have been joined by their revived allies Guardian, Vindicator, Shaman, and Marrina as the paragons and protectors of an entire nation. But as FEAR ITSELF takes over, their own country turns on the Flight and brands them traitors for the shocking actions of one of their closest allies. As the borders close and an entire nation hunts them down, will the newly reunited Alpha Flight survive?
40 PGS./Rated T+ …$3.99
makes me think that means Northstar's terrorist past.Quote:
for the shocking actions of one of their closest allies.
I think that while the rest of the team side with JP, Mac will do as he's told be the Government....
Was it Earthmover on Tamirind Isle with the 'Lobdell book of Plot Lines'?
No, it was Professor Plum in the Conservatory with the lead pipe.
It's Puck. Puck is not listed as part of the team, yet he has a wanted poster. Puck is the "closest ally" who does something that causes them all to be hunted. They are racing to find Puck, as well as trying to avoid the government super types who are after them. 'Nuff said.
...And then when they find him, they beat him up with hockey sticks.
:p
heres what i think. puck returns from hell, he is still a little messed up from the experience, he goes nuts and starts killng innocents. the goverment assumes its all of alpha flight and bands them all traitors. department h is re-formed with a new alpha flight (which i cant wait to see who they put on that team).
what do you think? {puck}
I think that I can tell 'The Verve' that contrary to popular believe the drugs do work. :shock:
Hmm...probably. So we are going to have a Mac team and a Gentry team? I think exposing too many Alphans isnt good for non-Alpha fans to get into the book. I dont think FVL would want people who didnt follow the greatest superhero team in the world to wonder who Manikin and Goblyn and Windshear are when he is trying to establish the originals
Actually, on a serious note, thanks for mentioning 'Gentry'. I was struggling earlier to remember his name. Mainly from the viewpoint of him being an ally (?) and could be the one who did all that betraying stuff.
usually what happens in these situations is that a high ranking government official is possessed or a town is somehow destroyed. The Japan disaster was way before they started writing this but with 9-11, and an already used Samford, CT being destroyed, I doubt its a town being wiped out.
Does anyone remember WildCATs when a Daemonite possessed the vice president and Youngblood, the government strikeforce had to counter the attack. Usual comic stuff. Maybe Yukon Jack goes off the deep end and whatever demon uses him to kill someone goes into Puck and now they have to find Puck cuz Shaman and Snowbird sense the possession. Maybe one of the Great Beast, lets say Neooqtoq takes human form from the deal made with Sasquatch and yokes the PM. The team is all there on youtube...the whole team has to get hunted down. Bring out the Epsilon Blacks
No. *gnorfle* No! :p
(Sorry, too much Linkara...)
I was going to make a joke about the ally who betrays them being one of the creators, but decided not to name real names.
My real thoughts are, as always, I'll wait and see.
- Le Messor
"I pulled into a lay-by with smoke coming from under the bonnet. I realised the car was on fire so took my dog and smothered it with a blanket."
~ alleged insurance claim form
A loopy government would probably think this operative "perfect". Probably has no real ties to AF, but you never know.
Are there any good public officials @ "H"? I hope so. {ahem "Frank Hulme"}
Mac leading the Gov't on the hunt for Alpha Flight. Wow. Not sure Mac and Heather's marriage would recover after that. You think Fear Itself will prey on Mac's reluctance and lack of confidence to lead AF?
Wait a sec, FVL did say this will be the first time we really see Alpha Flight work together for an extended period. So I have to say i don't think it will be any of the originals. I also can't imagine it will be Talisman, I don't recall her ever having any real love for the gov't. Especially in the Omega Flight mini.
Um. How about a certain associate of AF named "Cody"...?...
He'd certainly fit the bill as The Betrayer...
... and considering what he now does for a living, he certainly has some kind of government job.
- Le Messor
"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I - I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference."
~ Robert Frost, from The Road Not Taken
"Two roads diverged in a wood And I -
I chose to climb the nearest tree
And that has made all the difference."
~ Anonymous, after Robert Frost
What am I missing. Where is this Gary Cody news?
Like I said, some government official is going to get wasted....if Im reading into this right, its going to be Cody or someone close to him. Maybe they pull a Maxwell Lord and after the events of Chaos War- Fear Itself, no one remembers what really happened to Gary Cody
I found the Cody news. I want Gentry back. He was the brother to the PMs wife. Cody being PM does put a twist to it, backstabbing Judas
Is it REALLY Gary Cody, or is it somebody masquerading as him...
(maybe this is the body Puck uses to get out of hell in! lol)
But Puck is in the pic with Sasquatch. Alot of stuff is going to be revealed from their death/ Omega Flight formation til now. Im so excited
Yeah, nowhere does it state that it's GARY Cody.
A vengeful relation would have reason to turn the country against AF.
BUT there's still a betrayer from within the team, according to interviews.
And the Puck is merely a warm-up sketch, it says "in case we ever use him" although I think that's a hint.
So what we've worked out from interviews and twitter and the like is that 0.1 features an election for Canadian PM.
If it is a Cody, then that could be why the Government turns against them (the fear part of the Fear Itself tie-in) in #1.
The question is, is it a relation or a vengeful back-from-the-dead/possessed Gary somehow connected to the new Red Skull & the big bad from Fear Itself?