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Thought it was about time this old chestnut was dragged out again. Just what are the upper limits of Sasquatch's strength. The OHTTMU had Sas down as being able to lift/press 75 ton ish. Yet as we know we've seen various levels which have got to be more than that level. So is there a logical explanation why his strength level is so varied.
I think that at the time, Marvel really didn't want Alpha Flight to be as powerful as they shaped up to be. God know there was enough Alpha bashing going on at the time. I mean, if you go by what Marvel says, Box was stonger than Sasquatch. Sasquatch belongs in the top class for sure.
Ben
I'm with you Ben, we have Sas holding a DC-10 at full thrust and throwing it against thrust (UXM #120-121). We have him supporting a crumbling block of flats while Northstar evacuates it. He is constantly recorded as 70+ tons etc, but those two examples should put him in the upper limits, with Hulk, Thor etc.
yah, the DC-10 alone put him in that class comfortably.
Those feats of super strength were done while in control, makes a person wonder what he was capable off in issues like #23, when Tanaraq was totally in control.
I agree. Having an Ancient Great Beast possess your body would boost anyone's power level.
Lets see, he's like Hulk, but in control, so that would be Abomination level strength, which is like 80+ tonnes, and he's possessed by Tanraq, if that doesn't make him one of the strongest, I don't know what would.
I'd put him third in Marvel behind Hulk (No real upper limit.) & Thor. (He's a god, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.)
I have always thought of Sasquatch's strengh being equal to the Hulk's when the Hulk is not mad. If Sasquatch's strengh increases as he gets mad and as a beastial animal it should maybe he could match the Hulk in strengh. But could he get as mad as the Hulk with Walter's mind in control probably not.
When Snowbird takes on bestial form there are times that she sometimes looses control and her human side is subdued. Given that Walt is running around in her own body, if he lost control then maybe his strength levels would increase exponentially. Also as the form he takes is really a pseudo Squatch then even if he lost it completely, there's no way Tanaraq could take control. I think :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Richv1
If Saquatch is in Snowbird's body shouldn't he be able to change it other animals as well and shouldn't he be white? I know he was white at one time. Did the body he now has somehow only become able to change into Sasquatch's or is it that is just the only one Walter wants it to become?
Snowbird's spirit decended and restored Wanda to Walter. Though it was still the same body, it's shape was changed back to that of a man, and in turn losti it's albino characteristcs. I always assumed the only reason that Wanda could assume the sasquatch form was due to such a fimmiliarity with the form, plus the body was in the Sasquatch form when Walter's spirit entered it. To me that would remain true. Snowbirds body was built to transmute, but it was snowbirds godling spirit that ennabled her to take all the forms she did.
Ben
The larger Marvel fanbase would not accept him higher than fourth, with the Thing as third, as evidenced by AF letters in reaction to the super-skrull fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nalyd Psycho
The old 2-in-1 issue of strong-men characters boxing an alien is a light read that features Sasquatch. It being 2-in-1, of course the Thing won the fight.
Hulk. Thor, Thing, Sasquatch is that the strongest from # 1 to 4? Where would Strong Guy, Juggernaunt, Gilgamesh, Hercules fit in?
I think youv'e got to be looking at Gladiator, Hyperion, Hulk, Thor, Gilgamesh, Juggs, Absorbing Man, all of whom have Unlimited or Class 100+ . The Thing was measured at Class 15+ when he first became Rocky, but was attributed with Class 85+ at his peak. Sas should be attributed with Class 90 at least, and the DC-10 thing put down to am aborration.Quote:
Originally Posted by Richv1
Gladiator he looks a lot like SUperman and in his powers to. I remember him fighting Thor and he was stronger than Thor. But I remember the limited series with Gladiator in it and he seems a lot less powerful in that. At his most powerful I think he might have been the most powerful of those mentioned.
Also we forgot the Silver Surfer if he absorbs enough cosmic energy would surpass them all. And Drax would be in there as well as long as he has the infinity gem.
I left Silver Surfer off because his strength levels confuse me... he also rarely if ever relies on brute strength.
Your right with so many other ways of using his power he does not need to rely on strengh. He is probably the most powerful Marvel super-hero.
I pretty much kept it to heroes with powers based mostly on strength (thus excluding Silver Surfer.) I don't think the stories were bad, but still think Juggernaut should be as a villain. I still laugh when I think of the Jugs/Captain Britain fight circa Excalibur #4: great demo of Jugs' strength. Hercules behind Sasquatch, but hitting people with a mace rather than bare fist is an advantage! I know they normally test strenth with "pressing" but Gilgamesh's strength is now "pushing", specifically daisies. Gladiator should also be kept strong, on the Juggernaut/villain principle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Richv1
If Hercules can have a mace and Thor a hammer what weapon would look good in Sasquatch's hands? What goes good with a giant orange furred ape?
um, a Flo-bee?Quote:
Originally Posted by Richv1
Jheri Curl!Quote:
Originally Posted by Richv1
Ok, not a weapon but still... Be a funny visual.
Seriously, a boot. Ever see the movie The Cube? The boot scene there is so cool that some other medium has to use it.
Ok what are those two things? I have never heard of either. He could use a large size brush for all that hair.
Or a studded flea collar and pugel stick made from concrete :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Richv1
Jheri Curl is 80's Micheal Jackson hair.Quote:
Originally Posted by Richv1
A boot, is a boot, you know the things you wear on your feet? In The Cube there is a scene where a guy is holding them by the laces and swinging them around like a weapon. If there was ever a weapon that needed to be used, it's a steel toed boot swung by it's laces.
I'm not quite sure if you're joking with the boot thing, I believe in addition to the Jheri Curl, he was referring to not knowing what Flo-bee is.... For that matter.... what IS a Flo-bee??????
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Originally Posted by Nalyd Psycho
Ok what is a Flo-Bee? Ok I see its a vacuum hair cutter thing. So that weapon should be used on him not by him. I wonder what he looks like hairless? :lol:
well, there WAS that time that the Hulk shaved Sasquatch's back to make a loincloth...
Ben
Is the Flo-bee from Wayne's World?
I'm serious about the boot, trust me, it'll make for a great visual and be a great fit with the books tone.Quote:
Originally Posted by SwiftFox
The flo-bee vacuum hair cutter was a real invention that never caught on.
I remember that... but where from? Was it an Infinity thing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben
- Le Messor
"Cloning is the sincerest form of flattery."
Yah, It was Infinity Crusade...#5 I believe. I don't have my comics where I am right now so can't check.Quote:
Originally Posted by Le Messor
Ben
Here is the www.haircut.com/timecaps.html this has Johnny Carson holding up one. This was a real invention. Not just from the comics. Robo cut is just another name for flobee its listed as both on the home page.www.haircut.com