Awesome issue, we basically see a cameo from all the members. Bill's having vision of Snowbird a crazy temple....and THE GREAT BEASTS!
HA! Called it.
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Awesome issue, we basically see a cameo from all the members. Bill's having vision of Snowbird a crazy temple....and THE GREAT BEASTS!
HA! Called it.
yup, got it as well - great issue.
Lets hope that this one sells out as well.
No word of a lie my store opened at 12:00 and OF #2 was sold out at 12:10
So did my local store but it was because they under ordered to the point that they could not fill even the people on the pull list so I had to go elsewhere to get a copy.Quote:
Originally Posted by King Mungi
While I was at that other store a 1/2 hour drive away, I asked them there how the book was doing and they said they sold out of the first issue (well, I guess everybody did) and that they were pulling for the book to become an ongoing.
If it sells out here, it better be tomorrow! I'm workin til 8 tonight. I've got 3 comic shops on the way home. I'm hoping one of em will have at least one left!
I know, I know, this is a "I've got it" only thread. Please don't shun me!
8)
Shocked not more people picked it up yet.
great issure.. i refused to look at the teasers with words and i'm glad... man talisman ripped into iron man... dunno why pointer was in that lock up... weird that they would lock him up like that if they eventually trusted him on the team
I really really liek Arachne alot... U S Agent is a tool.. but hey so was nothstar and i love him!!!
so the blakc guy with the visions is BRB? sorry i don't knwo alot about BRB.
Great issue, my store had tons.. i mean tons.. they were putting them out when i came in.. still a huge stack... most people were buying Avengers:initiative but we're in Texas so what can you expect.. but the mere fact that they had a hgue order of OF is a good sign right?
I have to try and hold out 'till Saturday. Then it's Omega/Hulk day woooo!
Yep his name is Simon Walters and apparently an artist too 8)Quote:
Originally Posted by SmurfInABlender
Finally picked it up! I had to visit all 3 comic stores in Moncton. None of them had any left. I asked the guy at the 3rd store and he looked behind the counter and found one. Not in the best of shape, but I got it! Man that was luck. What a great issue! 8)
Always good to hear shops selling out in the first day of it's release
I can't join the general acclaim, I'm afraid. Because this issue annoyed me on a couple of levels.
1: Beta Ray Bill. Or, more accurately, Simon Walters, who has apparently changed from "a human being with Bill's personality" to "a mortal artist who seems completely baffled by events", and uses slang like "you don't know the half of it". I could understand a writer wanting to put his own spin on the character... but Oeming _created_ Walters.
2: Sasquatch the furry orange punching bag. I think more time was spent depicting him being tortured than in actual plot.
3: The shocking reveal of the new Guardian... which has been known since the preview story. And why the Hannibal Lecter getup?
4: The mini is 40% over, and we've barely moved forward. Didn't Oeming say he'd rewritten issue #2 to adapt to the miniseries length?
None of these, by themselves, would be deal breakers, but combined...
I'm "meh" on it. The treatment of Walt is not something I like but whatever.
I still don't like who's wearing the suit.
The art kicks ass once again.
I like US Agent and think it's going to be a great book based on the way Oeming writes him.
Honestly the dealign with sasquatch is good.. it got liz in the team, for a good reason, to keep the team in canadian hands.. Yeah they treated sasquatch like crap, but it will be taken care of...
The only thing that annoyed me was the hannible getup aswell
I'm conflicted on the issue... I guess I hoped that we would get all the characters together by now or something. And I don't get why Sasquatch never seemed to struggle or something, he certainly didn't seem to be broken or anything... That said, I like Simon Walters the artist. 'Far as I concerned, Oeming created him, he's his god, he can do whatever he want's with him and his personality. If this were an ongoing I'd give it 5/5, but I can't really rate it as of yet when I have no idea how Oeming's going to put a timely wrap on this arc.
I don't see why people have a problem with the Sasquatch thing. It's believable after getting hit with a gas truck that he'd be captured.
If it's the actual act of torture you don't like, well, I'm sure he will be avenged/vindicated and the Crew will get what's comin to them, which will be all the sweeter. What good is beatin the Wrecking Crew if they didn't do anything to deserve it?
The Hannibal thing kinda took me out of the story too, but I think it was a more dramatic cliffhanger then if he was just standing there. I'm sure ish #3 will tell us why he's locked up. 8)
I'd have liked it better if it was him standing in the doorway holding the mask with two guards on either side to "protect" him.. give him the "i still don't fully belong here" thing but still give him a reason.. not "the way I talk and look you'd think they put Stephen Hawking in here"
Wow mixed reviews of this issue, suprized.
I picked up my copy earlier today. I enjoyed it, but I agree that it is moving along very slowly... as if it were an ongoing. It woulda been nice if the first two issues were jammed into a double sized issue#1.
I also don't get why Pointer was in restraints.
As for Sasq; I personally think he could take the Wrecking Crew, but then, one lucky shot is all it takes. I guess the Crew got that lucky shot.
I liked when Thunderball was in the hole pounding Sasq, but he didn't make a peep. Just stared at him with those sullen eyes. However, I wonder what T-ball did that made him wail like a little girl when he dragged him out of the pit. You don't think he grabbed Sasq's, errr, well, you know...
The whole "moving slowly" is a universal complaint. Not just among us fan boys and girls, but among reviewers as well. However, everyone knowns why it is moving slowly. The one or two reviews I've seen for #2 (as well as all of the reviews for issue #1) acknowledge the reason why the pacing is not of a mini....and are sometimes even critical of Marvel's decision. I actually think that all of the talk of the pace is really good as it always seems to bring the whole "downgraded to a mini" into the discussion....and strongly suggests that downgrading it was a horrible mistake (given how incredibly well it is being received). I'm hoping that this kind of tone will help Marvel make the decision we are all waiting for.
I'm thinkin maybe he's not 100% in control of his powers yet. They said it themselves that they were rushed into putting this team together. I think they would have trained him more if not for this crisis. So I think he's not fully ready yet. I'm sure it will be explained next issue(the one with him on the cover). It might also be to help new readers see just how dangerous and powerful he is. It might not grab the casual fan if it was just a guy in a flag suit. They might say "boring!" and not pick up the next issue, whereas now they want to know why he's being restrained.Quote:
Originally Posted by SmurfInABlender
It's even getting us talking about it, so I think the scene did it's job. 8)
Got it yesterday afternoon! My local store had just about sold out. There were only 4 copies left in the store when I left. Another strong showing in the sales department.
As for the story, it did move slowly, but it was very well paced for a team formation story. You get most of the characters' motivations. The dialogue from USAgent reminded me very quickly why I love to hate his character. He's the consumate smarta$$ed American. There will definitely be conflict on the team with him around. Clearly Pointer will provide conflict as well. I'm waiting to see how Talisman is reined in. What argument trumps "You murdered my father!" I'm sorry, but the "I was only a vessel" argument wouldn't hold up with me, and I doubt based on Talisman's personality it would with her either. I have to agree with comments on the art and the job it does in telling the story. The book seemed to flow from frame to frame. Also, there really wasn't a lot of verbage in the word balloons, but the story was told in great detail. The pacing may be a bit slow, but the story is dead on. As for the Sasquatch torture, I wasn't overly bothered by it. I think he's lying in wait now. And I think T-Ball will be the first one Sas drops like a rock. Perhaps there wasn't a whimper during the torture because the Great Beast has taken over. I'm intrigued to find out.
If you're still dropping in Mike and Scott, I'd like to compliment you once again for some of the best Flight stories I've read. You're definitely doing the team justice. Too bad you weren't around 20 years ago when Alpha Flight veered off into Mantlo's bad dream.
Tom
I couldn't disagree more. This is another solid issue. Showing how the team is coming together and why there are probably going to be internal disagreements and more importantly (hopefully) problems with Iron Man and Ms. Marvel; spotlighting Elizabeth without shortchanging Sasquatch; the introduction of USAgent and Arachne, and; the cliffhanger (not a surprise, I know) Michael Pointer's membership and Talisman's reaction to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mario
The pacing is fast, the writing is tight...nothing wasted, the subplots are interesting, and the characters are converging on Toronto for what looks like an old-style good-versus-evil throwdown. I hope. MARVEL has problems delivering real conclusions.
What Sasquatch has never been given much credit for is his heart. When he fought the Hulk in the Annual and he painfully realized that he was not as strong, he put the nurse aside knowing that he was going to pay for his miscalculation, the price was unknowable as the Hulk was madder than heck. He didn't flinch, he didn't run, he didn't whine or snivel.
The same thing in OF# 2. Except that the Wrecking Crew---and in this instance, specifically Thunderball---is truly vicous. Icepick(?)...don't even want or need to see what happened to finally make Walt scream. I just hope that Walt/Sasquatch/Tanaraq puts a hurting on all of them the likes of which they've got coming.
OF# 2 avoids the second-issue let down that most series suffer from. Example, Dynamo 5# 2: not quite as good as #1. If OF were an on-going series, I doubt that the plots would be moving along as fast. The editor, Andy Schmidt, is doing an excellent job, and if this five-issue limited series does not culminate in an on-going, tptb are making an awful mistake.
i loved this issue. not sure if its because the past alpha being refrenced and used so much while still moving the new team forward or just a love for mike and scotts story telling. the only minor gripe i have is carting michael out in a "thunderbolt" type way.
but me complaining about this issue is like telling marissa miller i don't like the mole on her right hand.
i loved it and am looking forward to more.
i am curious as to why everyone is saying the series is running slow? does everyone just want a worthless "we're all here, lets fight the villian and start a team" route?
This pacing is still far faster than the likes of New Avengers, JLA, and various other team books that came out recently.
Yeah, to me I thought the issue was a lot faster paced than #1.
#1 seemed to be the Af respect issue and this issue brought the team together.
I honestly don't have a bad thing to say about both issues so far.
It's not Alpha Flight and I'm not claiming it to be as such but so far it seems a really well told story that has ties to AF.
Well done to all involved, here's to the big announcement...
I think the main reason people are upset is the handeling of sasquatch, but any non-flight fan will jsut be like "dang that beast couldn't take them?" then bam. the team will rip them up. wouldn't be suprised if a censor sign or two has to be shown when sasquatch rips off Thunderball's head.
Having an Iron Man suit: Millions
Leading Shield: Billions
Having everyone treat you like some kind of god: billions more
Having a Canadian tell you to shove it and blow up the monitor you're talking from: Priceless
..Wait did The Wreking Crew walk from BC to Toronto!? lol I'm sure they drove.. just wondering what happened to their car. 8)
i loved the torture scene. as hard as thunderball tried sas would not scream.
They snuck through one of those "state to state" negative space jump things? lol beats meQuote:
Originally Posted by Canucklehead
So was the muesum the ROM they were going to?
Man, but the art is boo-ti-ful. I LOVED the spotlight given to Eliz- I mean Talisman! :shock: The reeming she gave Stark and Danvers was great. The fight between USAgent and Daisy was eye-popping.
I already like Arachne and her daughter based on their intro. Alpha has always had a strong family aspect in the book, nice to see Omega continuing that.
The spirit world was an interesting journey. Also enjoyed the Shaman-in-the-Clouds.
Pacing seems fine to me. I hate super condensed books. As for Pointer in the straps, I'm sure it will be explained next issue, I have patience.
But how DID the Wrecking Crew get cross-country so fast? With a trussed up Sasquatch in tow? :?
An excellent issue.
Elizabeth's reaction to the news about Walter is a VERY good hook to get her onboard. The one thing to get her involved with a project she disapproves of. Her cold shoulder to Iron Man and Ms. Marvel is very cool, and Iron Man's failure to directly contradict her is hilarious in my eyes.
Snowbird seems to be getting set up as the mover and shaker behind Omega's formation (check "Bill's" sketches. I really like 'em).
I personally thought Walter was standing up to torture pretty well. The Wrecking Crew, for all that they've jobbed in the past, are actually pretty bad dudes.
And he was being worked over with what looked like a linoleum knife by a superstrong DOCTOR.
I'm glad that U.S. Agent's fight with Daisy was such a brief affair.The solicit had me worried that the issue would focus too heavily upon JUST Agent. That said, I LOVE his attitude here.
I just wish we'd seen his reaction after his "keep your mumbo-jumbo out of my way" bit was followed by a display of decidedly un-fuzzy mumbo-jumbo.
Arachne's fun and all, and my only beef with her has to do with her side in Civil War.
She WORKED for the Feds before. She was on Mystique's Freedom Force. In fact, her role on the team was to be a spy FOR the Feds, since they had no reason to trust the Brotherhood members. And now she minds so much she basically has to flee the country?
Honestly, my only real beef with the issue?
You're a Toronto police officer. A normal guy.
You see four jackanapes carrying SASQUATCH around wrapped in a chain and looking like he's been used as a punching bag. SASQUATCH. One of the most visually distinct of your country's superheroes- and these guys have evidently thrashed him.
And you open fire on them. With your pistol.
Way to be smart.
Edit: ANd I just noticed, on the same page, that the Wrecker calls Piledriver "Thunderball" Whoops!
Yup. It was.Quote:
Originally Posted by King Mungi
I loved this book more then I loved the first one. Can't wait for the next one.
Ha! awesome touch, I love the ROM but even I have a hard time finding it :?Quote:
Originally Posted by RatCat
what were under the two sheets on either side of BRB's alter ego???
Sheets? you mean those red stones? I have no idea, I don;t remember seeing that at the ROM.Quote:
Originally Posted by SmurfInABlender
I figured they would have soemthign to do with that scene that he was drawing.. it looekd liek maybe soem type of robot was in the picture, perhaps soemthign like that is under the sheets
or were they stones?
Alright I read it again and I'm thinking maybe Walt is playing possum. Towards the end when they put him out on display he's conscious but not fighting back. Maybe he knows the calvary is coming?
Overall the issue grew on me a little. (btw sold out in the two shops I know about in Philly) The art is great. I don't know how long it takes to do a page but attention to detail really catches the eye. I don't read comics regularly any more but this one is really sharp.
what page you talking about?Quote:
Originally Posted by SmurfInABlender