CHAOS WAR: DEAD AVENGERS #1 (of 3) - SPOILERS WITHIN!

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11-19-2010
Tawmis

CHAOS WAR: DEAD AVENGERS #1 (of 3) - SPOILERS WITHIN!

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First, let's talk about the art. OHMYFRAKINGTHOR! The art in this comic is beautiful. I forgot to see who it was (and I am currently at work so I can't check) - but the art is smooth, solid, well drawn! I mean, I _really_ like the art! So that already has my attention.

The story? It's pretty freaking awesome! The reason they're there makes sense (well so far with what's been revealed). And on the "team" we have: VISION, SWORDSMAN, YELLOWJACKET (the female), CAPTAIN MARVEL, DEATHCRY, and DR. DRUID.

So... not only do I get to read about SWORDSMAN again - and SWORDSMAN written well - but I also get to read about Deathcry (come on, she's Shi'ar, how am I not going to like her?). While Deathcry is written as some battle savage (which is how she ORIGINALLY was, but she grew considerably during her time on Avengers, so this is a bit of a revert for her - but I don't mind). The story is solid. The art is solid. The characters are solid.

If you did not pick this up - run back now and grab a copy off the shelf. You WANT to read this.
11-22-2010
mos_def

agreed. Swordsman has the heart of an Avenger. I thought Druid was written well too. Good buy
11-22-2010
Tawmis

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agreed. Swordsman has the heart of an Avenger. I thought Druid was written well too. Good buy

Agreed. Dr. Druid was... Dr. Druid. As he has always been!
Swordsman though was the one that REALLY shines in this first issue.
11-23-2010
cmdrkoenig67

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So, I guess Janet/Wasp didn't come back from the "dead"?

Dana
11-23-2010
Tawmis

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Originally Posted by cmdrkoenig67

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So, I guess Janet/Wasp didn't come back from the "dead"?

Dana

Nay. I am surprised... But I think it's because they used the female Yellowjacket. I don't know that any of them will be "back from the dead" since they're not really walking around on Earth. They're in a dimension between dream and death, where everyone on Earth currently is, since Chaos King killed Nightmare, who ruled (I didn't know this?) the Dream Realm, plunging everyone into a "coma" state that traps them between dreams/nightmares/death.
11-24-2010
Sasquatch17

I liked Deathcry!
11-24-2010
Tawmis

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Originally Posted by Sasquatch17

I liked Deathcry!

Previously? Or in this comic? Or both?

I was a Deathcry fan too... but mostly because she had ties to the Shi'ar which I have some weird obsession with.
11-24-2010
Sasquatch17

I liked her when she first appeared in Avengers.

Young girl alien with a Wolverine like attitude.
11-25-2010
Tawmis

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Originally Posted by Sasquatch17

I liked her when she first appeared in Avengers.

Young girl alien with a Wolverine like attitude.

You should pick up CHAOS WAR: DEAD AVENGERS then. Because the first issue has her as that savage attitude again.
11-25-2010
cmdrkoenig67

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She seemed to have that savage warrior attitude in Annihilation: Star Lord too. So much, in fact that she lost herself to bloodlust and tried to kill Captain Universe and then he accidentally blasted her to bits.

Dana
11-25-2010
Sasquatch17

Thanks...I'll give it a look!
11-25-2010
mos_def

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I dont think Wasp is really dead. What was left of her body was left on the pocket dimension which the Avengers were hiding in. Its the reason Jocasta freaked on Hank
12-19-2010
Flightpath07

I like dissue one of Dead Avengers. Don't know if I'll pick up the rest, but it was truly well written. Good characters. Interesting story. It was everything I wish Marvel had been over the last few years...
12-19-2010
Phil

I haven't read the issue, but I'm slightly confused as to the use of Vision given his Young Avengers self.
Is this addressed at all?
12-19-2010
Loki

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I haven't read the issue, but I'm slightly confused as to the use of Vision given his Young Avengers self.
Is this addressed at all?

There's nothing to be confused about. The Young Avengers Vision was created using Iron Lad's malleable armor and some of the Avenger's Vision's programming, but he's a separate entity - think of Mac and his younger clone. Both look alike and share some memories, but they aren't the same person.
12-19-2010
Phil

Thank you kindly :D
12-19-2010
cmdrkoenig67

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Originally Posted by Loki

There's nothing to be confused about. The Young Avengers Vision was created using Iron Lad's malleable armor and some of the Avenger's Vision's programming, but he's a separate entity - think of Mac and his younger clone. Both look alike and share some memories, but they aren't the same person.

Yeah, the original (Silver Age) Vision died...In some ways the new one is his resurrection, but also a new version.

Dana
12-19-2010
Flightpath07

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Originally Posted by Loki

There's nothing to be confused about. The Young Avengers Vision was created using Iron Lad's malleable armor and some of the Avenger's Vision's programming, but he's a separate entity - think of Mac and his younger clone. Both look alike and share some memories, but they aren't the same person.

Speaking of which - where exactly IS Mac's younger clone? I seem to have lost track of it somewhere...
12-21-2010
DelBubs

I was more than pleased to see The one and only Captain Marvel. His demise in the graphic novel still gets dragged out and read frequently.
12-21-2010
mos_def

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Speaking of which - where exactly IS Mac's younger clone? I seem to have lost track of it somewhere...

He died in Wolverine. He sacrificed himself to get Alpha FLight out when AIM and Garrison Kane kidnapped the team.
12-22-2010
Flightpath07

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He died in Wolverine. He sacrificed himself to get Alpha FLight out when AIM and Garrison Kane kidnapped the team.

Really? Any idea what issue and/or cover date this was? Would like to pick it up and give 'er a read sometime.
12-23-2010
Legerd

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Really? Any idea what issue and/or cover date this was? Would like to pick it up and give 'er a read sometime.

It was in Wolverine Vol. 1 #142 & 143 from October 1999, with young Mac dying in the latter issue. This was also the arc where Snowbird comes back from the dead.
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12-24-2010
Flightpath07

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It was in Wolverine Vol. 1 #142 & 143 from October 1999, with young Mac dying in the latter issue. This was also the arc where Snowbird comes back from the dead.
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Thank you! I'll have to keep that in mind, and find those issues online sometime soon.
01-11-2011
Tawmis

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Originally Posted by Flightpath07

I like dissue one of Dead Avengers. Don't know if I'll pick up the rest, but it was truly well written. Good characters. Interesting story. It was everything I wish Marvel had been over the last few years...

I couldn't agree more.

Anyone pick up the second issue?
01-15-2011
Flightpath07

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I couldn't agree more.

Anyone pick up the second issue?

me! i did!

I liked it. More great writing, more great characters, showed little bits of their back-stories to help those who don't know them figure out who they are. The characters work well together; not sure if that is just the characters, or the writers, but either way i am liking it!

I'm also enjoying Thunderstrike.

sigh... i hate Marvel, for putting out some good stories right now, when i swore I wouldn't buy anything by them until they had a new Alpha ongoing...
01-16-2011
cmdrkoenig67

So how did this mini end (I think the last issue came out recently)? Did the characters go back to being dead?

Dana
01-16-2011
Flightpath07

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Originally Posted by cmdrkoenig67

So how did this mini end (I think the last issue came out recently)? Did the characters go back to being dead?

Dana

Don't know. May have to wander down to my local shop in the next few days and see if I can find the issue.
01-16-2011
-K-M-

Most of the Dead Avengers "died" again. They saved the sleeping Avengers, but suffered pretty big loses.

Well not sure how their death works as it would seem they would just pop up again seeing the afterlife is open *shrugs*
01-16-2011
Flightpath07

"Most"? Who survived?
01-16-2011
-K-M-

Yellowjacket
Swordsman

Possibly Deathcry/Lifecry
01-17-2011
Flightpath07

Huh. Shoulda kept Doctor Druid around. Oh well.
01-17-2011
-K-M-

Well the afterlife is still "open" so he might pop up again *shrugs*
01-18-2011
Flightpath07

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Well the afterlife is still "open" so he might pop up again *shrugs*

If the afterlife is "open", wouldn't that mean that anybody who is dead can now be alive? Couldn't Genghis Khan, Hitler, and Jeffrey Dahmer all be walking around the Marvel U right now together?
01-18-2011
-K-M-

Potentially yes.
01-22-2011
Tawmis

Well with Dead Avengers #3... I... am curious where they go with it... since... that was the final issue...
01-22-2011
-K-M-

hmmmm....."..but I got two awake dead avengers and a"

http://www.comicbookresources.com/as...rv7565_pg3.jpg

I guess another avenger survived unless she is refering to herself or possibly Lifecry.
01-22-2011
Tawmis

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hmmmm....."..but I got two awake dead avengers and a"

http://www.comicbookresources.com/as...rv7565_pg3.jpg

I guess another avenger survived unless she is refering to herself or possibly Lifecry.

Where is that link from?
01-23-2011
-K-M-

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Where is that link from?

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?p...565&disp=table
02-16-2011
Tawmis

Okay - so we know that Yellowjacket and Swordsman survived Chaos War, just like Alpha Flight. Anyone know where they plan to pop up? Anyone know if Deathcry/Lifecry also survived?
02-16-2011
Phil

They survived the Dead Avengers series, but not Chaos War #5, so they're still dead I'm afraid.

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