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Canadian heroes are death fodder once again.
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So much for this Omega Flight. At least they're getting killed on panel this time. They need to learn to stay out of all Avengers books. Sigh.
Well, so far all it's just
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a Wendigo that's dead and there's plenty of them to go around.
And I'm glad that's definitely not Jeffries :lol:
True. We also learned in Incredible Hulk 11 that there are plenty of Sasquatch to go around too. I will remain calm until the actual issue comes out then :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil
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Here's my response I did on another board. The title of the thread was called "Avengers + Dead Canadian superheroes = $$$". I said "Meh! Just a random robot and a Wendigo. Technically you can't kill a Wendigo, but sure that will be ignored (which isnt that big of a deal). Since basically three of the 4 characters are brand new (pretty sure this is an AR) cant say there will be much impact." and another replied which a pretty bang on response...."Yeah Canucks not named Wolverine should really avoid Avengers books."....bang on, well the more recent Avengers books
Well, I know it's a month off still, but is anyone interested in reviewing this issue when it comes out?
If you can't get to a store on the day a legal Digital Copy can be sent your way.
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Hopefully, some of them make it out alive...I'd like to see the list of Canadian characters grow and perhaps call more attention to Alpha Flight.
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Pretty sure Validator will, here name was in the solicts and she appears on the cover too.
Agreed!Quote:
Originally Posted by cmdrkoenig67
Help me out here, is this an alternate reality, or 616? And why isn't AF getting involved no matter what universe this is set in?
I think it is an alternate reality to be honest. Not 100% sure though
This takes place in 616. During the events from the first three issues of the Avengers, 7 bio-weapons from Mars landed across the Earth, one of them hitting Canada. In Avengers 4, Captain Marvel mentions that the Canadian government will be sending Omega Flight to contain it. Also in issue 4, we see A.I.M. and the Avengers fighting over a bio-weapons site in the Savage Land.
As to why the Canadian government is sending a new Omega Flight, instead of Alpha Flight, I have no idea.
Also one of the bio-weapons landed in Perth. Maybe Alpha Flight is going to visit Australia instead and say "hello" to Le Messor?
Because this time around AF are too relevant to just be killed off, so characters have been created for the sole reason of sacrificial lambs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Legerd
Well...Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil
...last time out, our heroes were killed off-panel.
So, perhaps Marvel has "upped the ante", and will tell us, 6 months or so from now, that AF died, off panel, between the last page of Avengers 9 and the cover of Avengers 10 (without ever being seen or mentioned!).
I think that even after Vol.4 being 'not-extended' AF are in a better position and held in more regard than they were after the end of Vol.3 so I doubt they'll be killed off, on-panel or not.
Right, thanks for the answers. But now I'd like to know why the Avengers are the team to go in and save OF instead of AF? I mean, considering this is in Canadian territory, shouldn't AF be the ones to save the day? Yes I know it's an Avengers story, but couldn't AF at least have teamed up with the Avengers? I will give Marvel kudos for at least recognizing Canada still exists as part of their shared universe, but they lose marks for the name "Validator". Why can't our heroes have cool names anymore?
Oh, and does anyone else get a "Roadside Picnic" vibe from this?
:D That'd be awesome!Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris
... but Perth is clear across the country (west coast - I'm east). Sengsteroony lives around there, though. Maybe they'll visit him?
~ Le Messor
"It's the opinion of some that crops could be grown on the moon. Which raises the fear that it may not be long before we're paying somebody not to."
~ Franklin P. Jones
Yeah, but I'd bet you'd put your underwear on the outside and head there to represent Queen and country. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Le Messor
It does get annoying when something happens to Canada, and that great Marvel superteam Anyone-But-Alpha-Flight flies to the rescue for no adequately explored reason.
What's "Roadside Picnic"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Legerd
Well, more country than Queen. Canada has the same Queen I do, so I don't have to represent her to Alpha...Quote:
Originally Posted by Legerd
... unless you mean the band? Hmm... what should I play? ... anything but Another One Bites The Dust?
~ Le Messor
"Love all, trust a few. Do wrong to none."
~ Shakespeare, All's Well That Ends Well
Roadside Picnic is a scifi novel by Russian brothers and authors Arkady and Boris Strugatsky in which an alien spacecraft comes to Earth and dumps "stuff" that creates zones in several areas around the world where alien technology, and warped physics threaten anyone who goes into them. One of "the Zones" is on the east coast of Canada (the setting for the story) into which the main character enters illegally to earn a living scavenging alien items for the black market. It's actually a pretty cool story. The title comes from some dialogue in which one character thinks the aliens who created the zones were just passing by Earth, and stopped to have a roadside picnic much like humans would while on vacation. And like humans (at that time) they just tossed their garbage out the car window as they drove away polluting the environment and thus creating the Zones.Quote:
Originally Posted by Le Messor
Yes, perhaps stick with the usual, We Are The Champions, eh?Quote:
Originally Posted by Le Messor
Sounds interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Legerd
Well, it was that or Sliver Salmon, but nobody's heard of that one.*Quote:
Originally Posted by Legerd
* But, yes, it is the real name of a real Queen song.
~ Le Messor
"Never buy a thing you don't want merely because it is dear."
~ Oscar Wilde
I was thinking, "I Want To Ride My Bicycle", if that is the way you'd travel to Perth from your house.
Well, that is how I get to work.
We don't actually know that there is an Alpha Flight after the events of Volume 4; they were outlaws, shut down by the government and had no official status. Although then that means the Hulk:Mayan Rule arc needs a bit of working.Quote:
Originally Posted by Legerd
Plus the Avengers have official SHIELD status as guardians of the entire world, not just America, and have experience with these particular enemies.
Phil, I hate to throw a bunch of blame on editorial staff, but...Quote:
Although then that means the Hulk:Mayan Rule arc needs a bit of working.
...isn't this part of their job? And, IF these facts are supposed to be checked by 'junior editors' or such, are the Senior Editors not STILL responsible for making sure that the Juniors get all their facts correct?
But if it doesn't contradict any facts, there's nothing to get correct, which isn't a fault.
Does it actually say in the arc that AF are working for the government?
To my recollection it says something about Ross contacting them as per international protocols but that could have meant he went straight to Mac rather than through the government. Tenuous possibly but that's what I mean by a bit of working.
Besides, #10 will probably clear up as to why AF aren't about.
That'd be nice. Usually with Alpha, things get more cluttered and confusing, not more clear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil
I thought at the end of Vol. 4 AF was vindicated (no pun intended) when they captured the Master. I mean they were standing around with a bunch of regular folks doing clean up at the end weren't they? No one was trying to arrest, or blow them up. And they were acting, it would seem, as Canada's official reps with the Mayan invasion. Has there been anything in or out of the comics to suggest they are still on the run?Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil
I know the Avengers have worldwide jurisdiction (something that makes me question the intelligence of the UN since many of the heroes on the team have done some very shady things recently), but that still doesn't explain why AF isn't working alongside the Avengers on Canadian soil, assuming they aren't still wanted criminals. Of course if they are still wanted criminals then why haven't the Avengers been called in to apprehend them?
There's a difference between being wanted criminals and officially working for the Government, though.
It could well be like Vol.1 #1 where they've been disbanded.
Just because they're not on the run/wanted criminals, doesn't mean that th new Prme Minister has reinstated them as a paid, national team.
But as I say, it's all speculation till next month.
It's a bit odd since there hasn't been a hero Omega Flight since Michael Porter. Even "Alpha Strike" MIGHT have made sense. I wish they'd have been called Beta Flight. That way we could assume AF was either "Out of the Country" or it was "NHL Trade Deadline Day" so they all called in sick or something. Hopefully this is just making up for the LAST time Alpha was in an Avengers book...
So the robot character isn't human? Who do you think the other human is, a new character or someone we know? A Wendigo who 'dies', a robot of some sort who 'dies'? And the two humans, Validator and that guy? I guess time will tell.
Well, I live in... Perth and we certainly were not bombarded by bio-weapons from Mars. But then again, I don't think we live on Earth 616. :-)
I must say that the new Deodato art looks cool -- and I have no idea who the new Omega Flight characters are. Remember back in the early days of AF that there were 3 tiers: Alpha, Beta and Omega, so perhaps these are just brand-spanking new characters. Validator is a bit of a strange code name though... :-)
The Male reminds me a bit of an older Flex.
I think it happened, but it was a godawful small affair. At least, to the girl with the mousey hair.Quote:
Originally Posted by sengsterooney
Anyway, the chances of anything coming from Mars are a million-to-one... they say.
I know you meant to say Alpha, Beta, and Gamma!Quote:
Originally Posted by sengsterooney
But I do think these are just new characters.
~ Le Messor
"It's true that every time you hear a bell, an angel gets its wings. But what they don't tell you is that every time you hear a mouse trap snap, and Angel gets set on fire."
Well, the diamond dogs are poachers and they hide behind trees, hunt you to the ground they will, mannequins with kill appeal. Not Box-like. Or Box-lite.
Oh, Mokole - your eyes can be so cruel... just as I can be so cruel.
Then again, it's only forever - not long at all.
Well Le Messor, I can safely say I'm not strung out on lazers or back slashed blazers, though I ate all your razors while pulling the waiters...talking about Monroe, and walking on Snow White?
Y'see, Mokole, the television man is crazy, saying we're all juvenile delinquent wrecks.
Like I need TV when I've got T-Rex.
Sure, Le Messor, I see, you've got your transmission and your live wire, you got your cue line and a handful of ludes; you wanna be there when they count up the dudes!
Mokole, it's just you and your idol singing falsetto loud. Do you remember the bills you have to pay? Or even yesterday?