I think they'd have to integrate the X-Men first, bring them properly into the MCU.
Which would be cool.
~ Le Messor
"From a certain point onward, there is no longer any turning back. That is the point that must be reached."
~ Franz Kafka
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I think they'd have to integrate the X-Men first, bring them properly into the MCU.
Which would be cool.
~ Le Messor
"From a certain point onward, there is no longer any turning back. That is the point that must be reached."
~ Franz Kafka
If they bring in the X-MEN property - who wouldn't pay for a Wolverine movie where he's told to track down the Hulk and basically do a version of Hulk #180/181.
I hadn't even thought of that! That could be a lot of fun. :D
~ Le Messor
"Attempt the impossible in order to improve your work."
~ Bette Davis
We just need a new actor to play Wolverine is all...
Not sure Hugh still could - or would want to.
(Well, I am sure if Disney wanted it, the amount of money they'd pay would probably convince him)...
Rice told Fox employees that the transaction will most likely be completed by spring-summer 2019 and end of summer 2019 at the latest.
http://deadline.com/2018/04/disney-f...ce-1202363025/
Ooh! Then we'll see what happens. I hope it's good. :)
~ Le Messor
"Outside show is a poor substitute for inner worth."
~ Aesop
The plan is for X-Men: Dark Phoenix to be the final Marvel movie from Fox.
Simply put, once the deal is done, the heroes will officially be joining the MCU.
It's said that Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige is "hoovering up" Fox's Marvel characters and is looking to introduce Deadpool, the Fantastic Four, and X-Men in Phase 4.
https://www.comicbookmovie.com/aveng...hase-4-a159766
The Fantastic Four - it's about time! Maybe they'll get a good movie now?
~ Le Messor
"Everyone thinks of changing the world, but no-one thinks of changing himself."
~ Tolstoy
Or maybe when Disney gets it it'll be like what happened to Star Wars, bad storylines, nonsensical plot points, on and on. I never thought I'd hear sci-fi fans praise the prequels as better than Disney's versions, but after The Last Jedi I hear that from even die-hard Disney fans.
Wow.
Absolutely disagree on that, personally.
All three have been infinitely better than 1-3 and arguably 6.
'All three'... hmm... My mind went straight to the two that are part of the main run, and skipped over Rogue One. I have a problem sometimes with overcategorising.
Mokole, I'm not sure how to read your comment - have you seen the Disney Star Wars movies? If so, what do you think?
(Me, I'd say 6 is definitely better than any that came after, but the Disney ones are better than the prequels.)
~ Le Messor
"Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months."
~ Oscar Wilde
https://www.newsarama.com/39819-comc...al-report.html
COMCAST Prepping Last-Ditch All-Cash Offer For 21ST CENTURY FOX Despite Disney Deal
ComcastOfficiallyBows Out Of Fox Race Leaving Disney Free To Acquire The X-MEN And FANTASTIC FOUR.
https://www.comicbookmovie.com/x-men/comcast-officially-bows-out-of-fox-race-leaving-disney-free-to-acquire-the-x-men-and-fantastic-four-a162259
Well, that is good news for Alpha Flight fans! Are there any of those around here? :D
~ Le Messor
"An executive will always return to work from lunch early if no-one takes him."
~ W.G.P.
There’s no evidence that it will be good for us...
But there's no evidence that it won't! :D
(Sorry, trying to be optimistic here.)
Disney And Fox Shareholders Approve $71.3 Billion Merger - The X-MEN And FANTASTIC FOUR Are Coming Home!
Shareholders for The Walt Disney Co. and 21st Century Fox voted this morning on whether or not to approve the former's $71.3 billion acquisition of Fox's film and TV assets and it's good news: the deal has been approved!
The most exciting news for fans is the fact that this means Marvel properties like the X-Men and Fantastic Four are coming home to Marvel Studios and will arrive in the Marvel Cinematic Universe at some point in the next few years.
https://www.comicbookmovie.com/aveng...g-home-a162504
oOH! I cannot wait for a good Fantastic Four movie!
~ Le Messor
"Don't criticise the person who talks to himself; maybe he's the best company available."
~ P.K. Shaw
This opens up sooooooo many great characters that can now appear in the MCU. :)
I'm just curious about how they are going to merge those two worlds. I think there is an argument to be made that they wanted this deal done now so that they could potentially do a universe merge as the finale to the Infinity War, a la Crisis on Infinite Earths or something.
There’s no guarantee they will merge them.
They could keep them as completely separate universes.
Or just not even use the characters.
What Phil says is true, at least of the X-Men characters.
But I think they would bring in X-people; they've already had to compromise on Quicksilver and The Scarlet Witch. Corporate might not bother, but the creatives would probably care about, say, having The Beast in The Avengers.
However, I think Avengers 4 will be too soon for the merger; they won't have had the rights fully worked out by the time of release.
Honestly, I find myself not caring too much about mutants in the MCU.
I do expect an MCU Fantastic Four movie, though. And that I care about. :)
~ Le Messor
"Success is not forever and failure is not fatal."
~ Don Shula
You don't care about MCU Mutants, Le Messor? Even if it might potentially lead to at least an Alpha Flight appearance, somewhere down the line?
Oh, now that I care about! I'd love an MCU Alpha Flight movie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tawmis
When I said 'mutants', perhaps I should have said 'X-Titles'. Or 'The X-Men'.
I'm not against the idea of them showing up in the MCU, but I'm not shivering in anticipation, either.
Though I'd love to see S.H.I.E.L.D. get an ESPer division. :)
~ Le Messor
"Oh to be free as a bird - but keep one eye out for eagles."
~ J.D. Boatwood
To be honest, based on Infinity War I'd say the MCU is already too crowded as it is; I wouldn't want mutants in it.
The FF at a stretch (boom-boom) could work, but then you end up adding Namor, Silver Surfer etc etc and where does it end?
I like the separate Universes, with potential for a dimensional crossover at best.
And I'm still not sure I want to see AF on screen.
I see what you did there! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil
Actually, Namor is the one major character who's rights are still up in the air. By reputation, they're with Universal, so it could be hard to bring him in.
Then again, so are the Hulk's, so they could probably cut a deal.
Oddly, that's understandable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil
~ Le Messor
"Those who hate you don't win unless you hate them - and then you destroy yourself."
~ Nixon
'There shouldn't be two Marvels'. Unless they mean Captain Marvel and Shazam!, I agree.
It'll be cool if they're integrated well, and at this stage I trust Marvel muchly. It's the Fantastic Four I'm really hoping for, though.
~ Le Messor
"The wise man built his house upon the rock."
~ Jesus
"We built this city on rock and roll."
~ Starship
Disney/Fox Merger Could Actually Be Completed As Soon As The End Of 2018.
While some insiders have indicated a deal close is possible by the end of 2018, the official forecast is for early 2019.
https://www.comicbookmovie.com/disney/disney-fox-merger-could-actually-be-completed-as-soon-as-the-end-of-2018-a163905
https://deadline.com/2018/10/new-fox-promotes-five-executives-ahead-of-disney-deal-close-1202474706/
That could be interesting; we'll have to wait and see what happens.
Fox will be logistically ready for its pending mega-deal with the Walt Disney Co. to close Jan. 1, 2019.
https://variety.com/2018/biz/news/disney-fox-deal-will-be-ready-to-close-jan-1-says-peter-rice-exclusive-1202976061/
E.U. approves Disney / Fox deal.
European authorities have approved Disney’s purchase of 21st Century Fox assets, with conditions attached. The European Commission said that Disney had agreed to offload it’s A&E channels in Europe to alleviate concerns that the Fox deal would eliminate competition in the realm of factual channels.
https://variety.com/2018/biz/news/eu...ns-1203020918/
Kevin Feige was on Variety’s Playback podcast, and revealed that they’ll be able to start within the next six months.
https://mcucosmic.com/2018/12/27/marvel-studios-may-begin-development-on-fox-characters-within-six-months/
https://www.comicbookmovie.com/marve...f-2019-a165523
Link to the podcast here:
https://variety.com/2018/film/podcas...os-1203095749/
Two points I can make:
- When Fox and Sony had the rights to characters from Marvel, they had restrictions about how they could use them (like stories, powers, costumes, characters); some things they had no rights to use [I learned that from a guy on youtube who's a lawyer for intellectual property, he spelled out the problems with various rights holders very well] so they were restricted in ways most people don't know about. It's why Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver were experiments in the MCU, not mutants, but also why Spider-Man with Sony had trouble with characters, X-Men with Fox, Fantastic 4; people assume that if you have the rights, you can do what you want but that isn't close to true at all. Sometimes when you have all the rights, you screw up because you want to do something new and wind up creating nothing worth watching. Main reason why Disney has killed at least 4 Star Wars projects, they gave people freedom to do what they wanted, and saw a huge drop in profits so now they're being more careful
- If I did AF as a movie I'd keep it mutant-free too. Keep it small. Sort of doing it like this: Heather Hudson recruits ex-SHIELD agent Judd as head of security for Department H, which doesn't exist due to SHIELD [wink wink] (which is also a big reason why no mutants are with H; he agrees to help, goes through a magic portal and is in secretive H, which has Langkowski given incredible freedom as long as he has resources, Twoyoungmen as resource and physician, and Nemesis as a dead person in a suit with a sword they are afraid to deal with. Heather has the suit but refuses to use it after what happened to Mac. Joshua Lord (Master) is the antagonist, attacks them when he finds out they exist, Langkowski gets chemical and gamma ray infected, becomes Sasquatch, Puck surprisingly fights off most of the attack, Shaman uses his pouch to get them out of there. And so on.
[h=Disney Now Expects To Complete Fox Purchase By June.]1[/h]
https://screenrant.com/disney-fox-de...ete-june-2019/
Now it's mid March.
https://deadline.com/2019/02/disney-...co-1202565767/
Or next week!
Approvals from Brazil and Mexico are believed to be the last hurdles Disney needs to clear before formally taking ownership of most of 21st Century Fox’s assets. There’s been speculation that the historic union of two Hollywood studios could be completed as early as next week.
https://variety.com/2019/biz/news/di...ts-1203150861/
Or maybe next week!
Approvals from Brazil and Mexico are believed to be the last hurdles Disney needs to clear before formally taking ownership of most of 21st Century Fox’s assets. There’s been speculation that the historic union of two Hollywood studios could be completed as early as next week.
https://variety.com/2019/biz/news/di...ts-1203150861/
Deal closes March 20 at 12:02 am ET!
Disney said it expects the historic union of two of Hollywood’s pioneering studios to “become effective at 12:02 a.m. Eastern time on March 20.
https://variety.com/2019/biz/news/disney-march-20-close-21st-century-fox-acquisition-1203161135/
https://deadline.com/2019/03/disney-...mpression=true