What if?!?!? James Hudson was the an undercover Hydra agent wearing Captain American uniform?
What if?!?!? James Hudson was the an undercover Hydra agent wearing Captain American uniform?
“God made only one of each of us. It's up to us to make the most of our individuality.” Kevin Max
What if Scramble (Lionel Jefferies) had defeated Alpha Flight, and amalgamated them into his Omega form like he did Roger Bochs?
That would be one very powerful - and undoubtedly - insane! - piece of blobby flesh!Originally Posted by Legerd
Yeah apparently the end is canon to 616 universe. For years i thought it wasn't, but breevort confirmed it and it's mentioned in the handbook entry for Thanos and others. Also refered to in the recent Thanos series too
oh and on an earlier point, Mac has only technically died once and that was in the Collective fight (not including his clone)
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I'm pretty sure Brevoort was adamant it wasn't canon.
Yeah that was a typo. Meant to say he said it wasn't canon, but it's mentioned in the handbooks and recently in the Thanos book by starlin making it canon
even today he still says its non-canon,'but it's referenced in the actual comics *shrugs*
I'm not getting back into the Handbooks not being a dead-rule for canon conversation again
The Thanos thing I think he tried explaining somewhere, not sure what the end result is though.
Yeah I always thought it was non-canon but since starlin has been doing those new Thanos mini-series it has referenced The End. Then again I could see breevort just making those minis non-canon. I haven't seen breevort reply on them yet but sure he has
Let's face it, comics are a mess lately!
To me, any death counts if the reader is expected to believe it. Especially if the writer meant it at the time!
I think the same about Jean.
Since how long? It's an interesting question, I think:
For me, it's since the '90s; others would probably say more recently. Others might say we're on the upswing. Others say since the '80s.
That said, there are still things out there that are good.
~ Le Messor
"My 90s-era comic collection won't burn itself!"
~ Teenomicon, Welcome To Showside #1
100% agree. Even DC is a terrible mess since convergence
This breaks my heart so much. Because I was never a big DC fan. Used to hate Superman and Batman comics, because it seemed like every story, they were just impossible to beat, to the point that it was ridiculous. Even Captain America gets his @$$ handed to him - quite frequently. Granted, Superman "died" (gimmick) and Batman eventually got his back broken.
But New 52 was where I set all of my preconceived notions aside, and said, "I am going to give every book a try!" And I literally collected just about every New 52 - even if it was full of characters I never heard of (Justice League International, for example; Katana, Vibe, etc). And I really, really liked the New 52. It felt like "classic" super hero comics to me. Good guys fighting bad guys. No over the top drama and dialogue bubbles covering everything (I love dialogue, but a lot of writers go WAY overboard and forget they're telling a story in a comic, not a novel).
Then Convergence happened. And my collecting dropped in DC to barely anything. Marvel, even less.
Agreed; because the writer planned that character's death. Some other writer then come along and say, "He teleported away at the right time, and has just been missing for 10 years" or "It was actually a clone by Government Agency X!"
For me it was definitely the 90's. While it had some great comics out there - that I think are absolutely ground breaking in terms of story telling (New Warriors under Fabian) - the 90's was also the time that it felt like comics shifted from being about the story to being about the art. And we saw a rise in folks like Marc Silvestri (whose art I absolutely love), Rob Liefeld, Todd McFarlane, Jim Lee (and basically everyone who would eventually go on to make IMAGE which also boomed in the 90's - and cemented the "art over the story" vibe). Because I love me some WildCATS and CyberForce - but re-reading those, you can tell the story telling is very weak, but the art was fantastic. And with IMAGE's rise in popularity back then, I think the Big Two shifted that way. Avengers and X-Men, both staple books for me, back then, became very blah.
Justice League!
Good one, eh?
OTOH, 'which version'? There's only ever one answer with me - Byrne's version.
What if!?!?....Puck was Weapon X?
What if!?!?....Aurora became Phoenix?
“God made only one of each of us. It's up to us to make the most of our individuality.” Kevin Max
Good one, eh?
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