Originally Posted by
Garry/Al-Fan
All of this happened somewhere between the introduction of Kara Killgrave and "Friends": Knapp knew the New Life Clinic was unlicensed; he was the one who revealed that fact. Knapp's still an accomplice to what went on at the unlicensed New Life Clinic even if he himself didn't kill anyone, unless ignorance can be used as an excuse to get away with being an accessory to crimes.
I don't see how that makes him a "bad guy."
[Lionel is reprehensible, abominable, evil, and a bad-guy;Whitman may not be evil but is a bad-guy because he helps truly evil person do things that a decent intern/person would not do.] Walt did human experimentation without a license, does that make him a bad guy?
[No, it doesn't make him a bad-guy due to motivation. PhD in good standing, affliated with Simon Fraser University, Walt experimented on himself and Aurora, did not turn her into a monster, so who else did Walt experiment on and without a license? I probably don't have that issue. Garry/Al-Fan] It was pretty obvious that Whit thought the new-life clinic was a good thing, he had no idea at first that Lionel was nuts, and when he did realize, he did the right thing. He has never shown his character to be evil, or to even have any bad intentions. He's a good man, though he does like his women kinda young...
AFV1# 44, page 3, panel 6 -
CAPTION: "But the treatment taking place in New Life's subterranean laboratories is anything but usual."
Knapp: "Do you really think you can cure Box, Dr. Jeffries?"
Lionel: "Of course, Dr. Knapp!"
"When I chose you as my intern, I made you privy to my power
to make broken bodies whole."
Knapp: "I know that--I saw how you cured Puck--and I think the
authorities were wrong to deny you a license simply because of
your unorthodox methods!"
AFV1# 46, page 6, panels 4, 5, and 6:
panel 4
Knapp: "Dr. Jeffries, I haven't your powers, but I've learned so
much about novel approaches to medicine from you that I've
hesitated to question some of the radical cures you achieve as Scramble.."
Lionel: "But now you feel compelled to, Dr. Knapp?"
Knapp: "It was the strange splotches I noticed on Mr. Bochs' new legs, sir!"
panel 5
Knapp: "Almost as if they were...decomposing!"
Lionel: "Silence, or I'll transmutate you into inrecognizibility. Perhaps I could not cure Langkowski, but my power over human subjects is...must be...unquestionable!"
Panel 6
Lionel: "Were I ever to doubt that, why I---I might go...mad!"
Whitman didn't warn a single, solitary Alphan that his boss was losing his mind. And if Alpha Flight couldn't help Whit, who could?
...And when they realized that he was doing innapropriate things, such as using dead body parts on Bochs he was confronted, he showed his true colours ect.
AFV1# 48, page 10, panel 6
Lionel: "New Life caters to the incurable. Some I have successfully restored...by giving them parts taken from others."
Madison: "I-I knew you were using body parts--But I didn't think you killed to get them!"
AFV1# 48, page 11, panel 5
Knapp: "When I thought you were using your powers to cure the incurable, I idolized you! When some of the patients died and you used their corpses for experimentation, I chalked that up to the good of science!"
It's easy to understand why they would want a guy like this in thier corner. Michael used conventional means to heal Puck, he was still in the hospital for some time, and took a while to get properly healed up. If you have a guy who can fix you with one touch after getting gutted, I think that would be a nice resource for a super hero team to have.
I have to disagree. It's not easy to understand why anyone who saw what Lionel Jeffries did to Heather Hudson and the patients in the hospital where he was institutionalized would pick him over the reknowned, respected, and highly effective surgeon Dr. Michael Twoyoungmen. Quick fixes seldom work, and Alpha Flight had evidence all along the way that Lionel's cures did not work, whereas they had walking, living proof that Michael's treatments did. Michael used a combination of magic and conventional medicine, the combination of which probably saved Puck's life.
I can't remember specifically if he was suggested to be a member or not, and don't feal like diggin' through issues just now. If such a thing did happen, it must have been just a pannel or two that I dont' recall.
That's okay, I did my homework last night. AFV1# 45, page 10, panel 3 -
Madison: "But what about Scramble, Heather? Don'tcha think it's time we
made him an honorary Alphan?"
Originally Posted by
Garry/Al-Fan
Somon psychically "killed" Whitman in AFV1#55 (page 17, panel 3), but like I said I don't know if this turned out to be an illusion by DreamQueen or not.
Yah, just looked this one up, he did indeed run his nasty fingers through Knapp and all his other selves. In the next issue they were staggering about, and he referred to them as having been injured, and when he drew his other selves back into himself it made him whole, effectively healing him...looks like Mantlo had to back peddle a bit on this one
Ben