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    Also, here Northstar uses 'Rhonda' and 'help' in the same sentence, which always makes me think of that Beach Boys song, Little Deuce Coupe.

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    Nice clip, Messy. And the reference "keeps THAT power" indicates to me that J-M always had powers of her own that Aurora may not have been able to access.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kozzi24 View Post
    Nice clip, Messy. And the reference "keeps THAT power" indicates to me that J-M always had powers of her own that Aurora may not have been able to access.
    Thanks... and nice pick-up. I'd never noticed the 'that' before.

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    Default Let's not put the "fan" back into "fanatic" just yet...

    I didn't find out that "Aurora" is the Greek goddess of Morning until a few years ago: Jeanne-Marie is a lot more powerful than people (with maybe the exception of James Hudnall) gave her credit for being. [I wouldn't have forgotten]

    I hope that MARVEL fine-tunes some things before they start publishing the new books: Narya is a DEMI-goddess. I hated that the Mantlo era constantly mischaracterized her, and I expect BETTER this time around. Secondly, someone should suggest that the references be to "Inuit" Gods, not "Eskimo" Gods.
    Third, I hope MARVEL isn't locked in to using all the art that has been previewed because, well, it could be more coherent.

    I know Alpha needs support, but give us something that we can really get behind: Sasquatch getting his clock cleaned isn't going to cut it for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garry/Al-Fan View Post
    I didn't find out that "Aurora" is the Greek goddess of Morning until a few years ago: Jeanne-Marie is a lot more powerful than people (with maybe the exception of James Hudnall) gave her credit for being. [I wouldn't have]
    Well, they just call her angel of the morning; she isn't actually her.

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    Third, I hope MARVEL isn't locked in to using all the art that has been previewed because, well, it could be more coherent.
    Um... pretty sure they are. Sorry.

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    I know Alpha needs support, but give us something that we can really get behind: Sasquatch getting his clock cleaned isn't going to cut it for me.
    And, in the next issue, Mac gets his engine re-tuned!

    Alpha does need support.
    I've been trying (and, at times, failing) not to be negative about it (though I have seen a few things about this series that I don't like, and no, I don't plan to post what they are here); but yes, I do want something we can really get behind. They've got the original characters, but that wasn't everything that made the original series special.
    But it's a much better start than three other volumes I could mention...

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    Default Fix what needs fixin'...while there's still time

    Okay, if MARVEL isn't interested in making this take the best it can be, then no one should be surprised if the response is luke-warm, too. The "Inuit" issue should have been settled a while ago, yet it is in the "Snowbird" sidebar accompanying the Tuesday Q & A...Snowbird's DEMI-goddessness is what makes her able to do what the Old Gods can't...I didn't mean to imply that J-M is actually THE Greek/Roman Goddess "Aurora", just that she is named after a very powerful being...

    1 on 1, SASQUATCH should mop the floor with just about anybody other than the Hulk, or show why that ain't happening...FAST.

    Apprehensive...very apprehensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garry/Al-Fan View Post
    1 on 1, SASQUATCH should mop the floor with just about anybody other than the Hulk, or show why that ain't happening...FAST.

    Apprehensive...very apprehensive.
    Citadel's coated in pure adamantium though.
    A punch from that would move Sas.

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    Default Citadel vs. Sasquatch & Aurora, Purple Woman vs. Guardian & Northstar, AF imprisoned

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil View Post
    Citadel's coated in pure adamantium though.
    A punch from that would move Sas.
    I believe that. I think Citadel is a good character (and a good adversary for AF).

    I am apprehensive that a single adversary keeps giving the team (or several members of the team) so much grief.

    Seeing these four characters getting put through their paces by two adversaries (one of whom seems to be a former Betan) just doesn't make me want to rush right out, buy a boat-load of copies, and sing praises about how great everything is.

    If you see a car only has 3 tires, the engine is on fire, and the steering wheel is gone, would you still buy it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil View Post
    Citadel's coated in pure adamantium though.
    A punch from that would move Sas.
    Adamantium only lends invulnerability, not strength. If I punched Sas with Adamantium knuckles, I'd proably end up more hurt than him.
    I know nothing about Citadel.

    Quote Originally Posted by Garry/Al-Fan View Post
    If you see a car only has 3 tires, the engine is on fire, and the steering wheel is gone, would you still buy it?
    ... not seeing the problem?

    You're right, of course, that 'something is better than nothing' can be very, very wrong... but as I've said, I'm trying to remain positive about the first Alpha Flight book in thirty years that has Alpha Flight in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garry/Al-Fan View Post
    I believe that. I think Citadel is a good character (and a good adversary for AF).

    I am apprehensive that a single adversary keeps giving the team (or several members of the team) so much grief.

    Seeing these four characters getting put through their paces by two adversaries (one of whom seems to be a former Betan) just doesn't make me want to rush right out, buy a boat-load of copies, and sing praises about how great everything is.

    If you see a car only has 3 tires, the engine is on fire, and the steering wheel is gone, would you still buy it?
    It's interesting to read comments from someone that is very hesitant about this new series when the rest of the group is so excited about it. Seriously. I hope you are pleasantly surprised when it comes out. I am eagerly anticipating it, but figure there may be some things that I might not like so much. Stands to reason that the creative team isn't going to appease everybody. I'm just hoping for a good mazi-series, as my concern is that this will be a fun ride but there won't be enough of a demand to keep it going. I hope I am proven wrong!

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    Something is usually better than nothing.

    Unless that something sullies the greatness of something important to you. Which, of course, is subjective, a different take on that for every different person.

    I'll wait and see. I am sure there will be things I do not like or do not prefer. Will the good outweigh the bad? For me, I am pre-supposing that it will. Looks good to me!
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    I'm sure somebody said "Something is usually better than nothing" all throughout the Mantlo era. That proved to be categorically wrong.
    I'm sure somebody said "Something is usually better than nothing" during volume 2 when Heather, Judd, and Diamond Lil got mind-wiped while the new "Alpha Flight" couldn't even beat Mesmero.
    I'm sure somebody said "Something is usually better than nothing" when the plodex-ship inexplicably captured the entire team in volume 3, then created dopplegangers.
    I'm sure somebody said "Something is usually better than nothing" when Walter/Sasquatch took on all four members of the Wrecking Crew by himself...
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    We need Caliber to come back and give the team a run for their money. What?...He can do it....Caliber is awesome!

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    FVL and Pak have taken series and characters that were luke-warm ("meh") to most people beforehand, and appaently made them into something golden (a calf?).

    I'm hopefully optimistic. With a side-order of "please don't dash my dreams into tiny fragments and stomp on them".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flightpath07 View Post
    FVL and Pak have taken series and characters that were luke-warm ("meh") to most people beforehand, and appaently made them into something golden (a calf?).
    Without saying anything about the new Alpha specifically, a lot of people make things more popular by adding the same darkness and angst and whatever. It starts to look generic.
    Everything these days has to be really, really serious until it loses all sense of fun. It has to be really, really dark, until it loses all sense of light and hope. It has to be really, really militaristic until it loses all sense of individuality (which the real military doesn't, btw).

    More popular is not the same as better.

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