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    A loopy government would probably think this operative "perfect". Probably has no real ties to AF, but you never know.

    Are there any good public officials @ "H"? I hope so. {ahem "Frank Hulme"}
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    Mac leading the Gov't on the hunt for Alpha Flight. Wow. Not sure Mac and Heather's marriage would recover after that. You think Fear Itself will prey on Mac's reluctance and lack of confidence to lead AF?

    Wait a sec, FVL did say this will be the first time we really see Alpha Flight work together for an extended period. So I have to say i don't think it will be any of the originals. I also can't imagine it will be Talisman, I don't recall her ever having any real love for the gov't. Especially in the Omega Flight mini.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaVeO View Post
    Mac leading the Gov't on the hunt for Alpha Flight. Wow. Not sure Mac and Heather's marriage would recover after that. You think Fear Itself will prey on Mac's reluctance and lack of confidence to lead AF?
    ....
    I never really understood the lack of confidence thing with Mac. His own government sent him to retrieve Wolverine as his very first mission. Wolverine. His own government.
    And Mac knocked him out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garry/Al-Fan View Post
    I never really understood the lack of confidence thing with Mac. His own government sent him to retrieve Wolverine as his very first mission. Wolverine. His own government.
    And Mac knocked him out.
    It makes sense...Mac nearly killed Moira (a civilian) on that first mission (he even felt he failed with Logan, because Logan left), He thought Marrina was ready for Alpha Flight and she nearly killed Puck, He misjudged whether Aurora/Jeanne Marie's MPD would be a liability to the team and he didn't let her team-mates (or even her brother) know about her problem and he inadvertently leads Alpha into a trap (and endangers his wife) at the World Trade Center (Issues 11 and 12) when Omega Flight ambushes them, then he is killed trying to disable his suit.

    Sounds like a recipe for a lack of confidence stew to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garry/Al-Fan View Post
    Wolverine. And Mac knocked him out.
    As Dana's about to tell you, the problem is Wolverine's not the only one he knocked out. And that's terrible.

    Quote Originally Posted by cmdrkoenig67 View Post
    ...he inadvertently leads Alpha into a trap (and endangers his wife) at the World Trade Center (Issues 11 and 12)...
    The rest I agree with, but as you point out immediately after this one he was a bit busy being dead to stew in unconfidence.

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    Sounds like a recipe for a lack of confidence stew to me.
    Needs more salt.
    And neuro-peptides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmdrkoenig67 View Post
    It makes sense...Mac nearly killed Moira (a civilian) on that first mission (he even felt he failed with Logan, because Logan left), He thought Marrina was ready for Alpha Flight and she nearly killed Puck, He misjudged whether Aurora/Jeanne Marie's MPD would be a liability to the team and he didn't let her team-mates (or even her brother) know about her problem and he inadvertently leads Alpha into a trap (and endangers his wife) at the World Trade Center (Issues 11 and 12) when Omega Flight ambushes them, then he is killed trying to disable his suit.

    Sounds like a recipe for a lack of confidence stew to me.

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    Excellent points, especially the Moira incident. Very valid. Yet, after accepting the responsibility of helping to defend Canada, I thought that Mac would at least be a little ticked that his own government assigned him to go into the U.S. to get his friend....a very dangerous friend. The "influencers" may have something to do with it, and if so that element would make sense, as well.

    I've never really understood why Alpha Flight was so close to imploding either, but I don't want this POLL thread to concern itself with that. I think Dana has explained it so I can understand Mac's ambivalence a bit better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garry/Al-Fan View Post
    Yet, after accepting the responsibility of helping to defend Canada, I thought that Mac would at least be a little ticked that his own government assigned him to go into the U.S. to get his friend....a very dangerous friend.
    I agree there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Garry/Al-Fan View Post
    The "influencers" may have something to do with it, and if so that element would make sense, as well.
    The oft-forgotten Influencer seemed to be Roxxon's thing, not Canada's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garry/Al-Fan View Post
    Excellent points, especially the Moira incident. Very valid. Yet, after accepting the responsibility of helping to defend Canada, I thought that Mac would at least be a little ticked that his own government assigned him to go into the U.S. to get his friend....a very dangerous friend. The "influencers" may have something to do with it, and if so that element would make sense, as well.

    I've never really understood why Alpha Flight was so close to imploding either, but I don't want this POLL thread to concern itself with that. I think Dana has explained it so I can understand Mac's ambivalence a bit better.
    Giddy or not about his first mission to go after Wolverine, he also failed in it. Alpha Flight failed again to obtain Logan when they ambushed the X-Men in Calgary. He also probably feels he failed with Beta and Gamma Flights (who became Omega)...He doesn't know that Delphine and Jaxon were using some device to "influence" the Omegans. I mentioned the "leading Alpha into a trap" and his death, he must remember all of that...He was perfectly conscious up until his suit blew.

    Failing to re-obtain Wolverine twice and his perceived failure with the other tiers of Department H must weigh on him (added to the other weights I mentioned in the other post).

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    Um. How about a certain associate of AF named "Cody"...?...

    He'd certainly fit the bill as The Betrayer...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flightpath07 View Post
    Um. How about a certain associate of AF named "Cody"...?...
    ... and considering what he now does for a living, he certainly has some kind of government job.

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    What am I missing. Where is this Gary Cody news?

    Like I said, some government official is going to get wasted....if Im reading into this right, its going to be Cody or someone close to him. Maybe they pull a Maxwell Lord and after the events of Chaos War- Fear Itself, no one remembers what really happened to Gary Cody

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    I found the Cody news. I want Gentry back. He was the brother to the PMs wife. Cody being PM does put a twist to it, backstabbing Judas

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    Is it REALLY Gary Cody, or is it somebody masquerading as him...

    (maybe this is the body Puck uses to get out of hell in! lol)
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    But Puck is in the pic with Sasquatch. Alot of stuff is going to be revealed from their death/ Omega Flight formation til now. Im so excited

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    Yeah, nowhere does it state that it's GARY Cody.
    A vengeful relation would have reason to turn the country against AF.

    BUT there's still a betrayer from within the team, according to interviews.

    And the Puck is merely a warm-up sketch, it says "in case we ever use him" although I think that's a hint.

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