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    It's okay, guys. I'm not upset with anyone. I just wanted it to be known (since I felt it implied otherwise) that I can think for myself. And don't forget it.

    Is there a reason Hudnall keeps jumping from one place to another every other issue? I just read #77, and it was some off-the-wall thing with Heather, and NOTHING to do with The Sorcerer.

    Made me really DESPISE Madison Jeffries, though.
    ROAR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crackity Jones View Post
    It's okay, guys. I'm not upset with anyone. I just wanted it to be known (since I felt it implied otherwise) that I can think for myself. And don't forget it.
    Is there a reason Hudnall keeps jumping from one place to another every other issue? I just read #77, and it was some off-the-wall thing with Heather, and NOTHING to do with The Sorcerer.
    Made me really DESPISE Madison Jeffries, though.
    ROAR.
    I suspect Hudnall knew how much you once loved Heather and was able to glance into the future - and knew how you had grown to hate her. So he took another character, for you to hate more, and thus slowly bring your love of Heather back to you. That's what I suspect anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tawmis View Post
    I suspect Hudnall knew how much you once loved Heather and was able to glance into the future - and knew how you had grown to hate her. So he took another character, for you to hate more, and thus slowly bring your love of Heather back to you. That's what I suspect anyway.
    ohmygod, TAWMIS.
    IWASJUSTTHINKINGTHIS.

    Really, though, even though Heather is still a leader, and she still likes to state that quite a lot, somehow Hudnall writes her a MILLION TIMES better than Mantlo ever did.
    He gives her flaws while not making her sacrifice her team because of her flaws. Which makes her real(er).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crackity Jones View Post
    ohmygod, TAWMIS.
    IWASJUSTTHINKINGTHIS.
    Figured as much!

    Quote Originally Posted by Crackity Jones View Post
    Really, though, even though Heather is still a leader, and she still likes to state that quite a lot, somehow Hudnall writes her a MILLION TIMES better than Mantlo ever did.
    He gives her flaws while not making her sacrifice her team because of her flaws. Which makes her real(er).
    I agree. I love how he writes Alpha Flight. Now if he had only made Llan more interesting!

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    And Jeffries had Diamond Lil in his apartment when Heather called to tell him she wasn't going to be able to come over to see him that evening, and he said it was okay he had other things to do anyway.
    So, yeah, obviously his "other things to do" was Diamond Lil.
    Have you seen Diamond Lil? Rawr!

    Quote Originally Posted by Crackity Jones View Post
    Just get him away from Heather. Bring Mac back. And my Alpha Flight will BE that much closer to being correct again.
    You won't have to hold your breath much longer...

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    Y'know, I've just looked up #77, and I barely remember it. When you were talking about Heather solo, I kept thinking of the one where she goes back to her home town to fight alien plant monsters, which I actually kind of like.

    This one?
    I vaguely remember the cover, and a little of what happens inside. About as vaguely as a French wave.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tawmis View Post
    Have you seen Diamond Lil? Rawr!
    Yeah, but Heather's a redhead!

    ~ Le Messor
    "There is no roll to save against redheads."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tawmis View Post
    I agree. I love how he writes Alpha Flight. Now if he had only made Llan more interesting!
    I have yet to read his uninteresting Llan. I didn't get to read yesterday because I had too much work.

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    Have you seen Diamond Lil? Rawr!
    I'm with Le Messor: Heather is a red head. We're kind of awesome.

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    You won't have to hold your breath much longer...
    Thank GOD.
    I've only been waiting forever.

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    I don't think I have #77! What did Jeffries do that was so horrible? I have some theories about his psychology this could add to.

    Also, is your name a Pixies reference? Crack crack crackety Jones!
    "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me thrice, you must be Marvel."
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    Quote Originally Posted by EccentricSage View Post
    I don't think I have #77! What did Jeffries do that was so horrible? I have some theories about his psychology this could add to.

    Also, is your name a Pixies reference? Crack crack crackety Jones!
    Hello, EccentricSage-

    Yes, my name is a Pixies reference.
    I am from the Chicagoland as well.
    And Jeffries had Diamond Lil in his apartment when Heather called to tell him she wasn't going to be able to come over to see him that evening, and he said it was okay he had other things to do anyway.
    So, yeah, obviously his "other things to do" was Diamond Lil.

    Just get him away from Heather. Bring Mac back. And my Alpha Flight will BE that much closer to being correct again.
    Last edited by Crackity Jones; 07-23-2014 at 09:56 AM. Reason: My pre-coffee self forgets WORDS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crackity Jones View Post
    Hello, EccentricSage-

    Yes, my name is a Pixies reference.
    I am from the Chicagoland as well.
    And Jeffries had Diamond Lil in his apartment when Heather called to tell him she wasn't going to be able to come over to see him that evening, and he said it was okay he had other things to do anyway.
    So, yeah, obviously his "other things to do" was Diamond Lil.

    Just get him away from Heather. Bring Mac back. And my Alpha Flight will BE that much closer to being correct again.
    Awesome on both accounts! If I've not scared you off yet, maybe we can meet up and fangirl sometime!(or fanboy? Never sure of people's sex online)

    Ah, I do have that issue and didn't like it. It was so sudden and cold, how they made Madison and Lil an item again... It made both characters look like total ass holes towards Heather for no logical reason. Though I thought it was stupid that they hooked back up at all, to be honest. Madison had told Lil and Wildchild that he knew about the mind control, and would see what he could do for them. Then, after becoming the Hero Who Saved Alpha Flight he promptly tells his friends they'll have to take the fall and throws them under the bus! What a great guy, eh?

    So I guess I can see Madison being so cold and impulsive, but Lil wanting to be with him after that...? WHY?

    You might think I hate Jeffries after saying that, but I really like him as a character... He has such great power and potential for good and evil... really under used. My theory is that he's someone with a complex who wants to play the hero... the sort of person who doesn't act out of true altruism but deludes himself into seeing himself as altruistic, as a form of self-mythology. This could explain a lot of his history, really. That said, I think he means well, but meaning well doesn't matter when your only priority deep down is to live in a hero fantasy and you are easily led astray. I wish a writer would do some work with his psychology and continuity... I think there's a good story that could be told there. He's so humanly flawed.
    "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me thrice, you must be Marvel."
    -FlightPath07 Don't you feel all important now?

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    Yeah, #77 was a strange one.

    It comes across as a inventory issue that was written before Hudnall started his run, like with #63.
    The fact that it has a standalone guest penciller makes me think that it was used as a fill-in because Calimee was running late, possibly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil View Post
    Yeah, #77 was a strange one.

    It comes across as a inventory issue that was written before Hudnall started his run, like with #63.
    The fact that it has a standalone guest penciller makes me think that it was used as a fill-in because Calimee was running late, possibly?
    If that's the reason (the Calimee one), then consider me shocked.
    It's not like it was an Alan Davis, Byrne, or Lee drawing these issues.

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    I like Jeffries under Byrne and everyone after Hudnall.

    Basically anyone but Mantlo & Hudnall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil View Post
    I like Jeffries under Byrne and everyone after Hudnall.

    Basically anyone but Mantlo & Hudnall.
    He didn't get much development under Byrne, iirc, but he didn't bother me under Byrne. He bothered me under Mantlo and now under Hudnall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crackity Jones View Post
    He didn't get much development under Byrne, iirc, but he didn't bother me under Byrne. He bothered me under Mantlo and now under Hudnall.
    Under Byrne, he had that blue collar thing going for him. He was just an average Joe, trying to make a living, but happened to have superpowers.
    I liked that. It felt 'different'.

    It evaporated the moment Mantlo took over, though, and he turned into just another superhero.

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