Crackity Jones' Discovery Of Alpha Flight

[Crackity Jones]

WAT?
FP, you are breaking my heart!!!
How can you say such awful things about my Goblyn??
She is the ONLY AF Mantlo creation that I adore.
Does something bad happen that I haven't read yet??

[Crackity Jones]

Something bad pertaining to Goblyn or something she does.
Sorry, I should have specified.

[Tawmis]

I want a GOBLYN ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am glad that you...

No, no, NO.
I want a Goblyn STATUE.
Rightnow.

... Uh, right. As I was saying, I am glad that you...

How can you say such awful things about my Goblyn??
She is the ONLY AF Mantlo creation that I adore.
Does something bad happen that I haven't read yet??

Ahem! IAmGladThatYouLikeHer!

Phew. Thought you were going to keep interrupting me.

[Phil]

I think the concept of Goblyn/Pathway was very good.
Not sure where in Mantlo's run her origin is so I won't mention it but it was definitely a decent, original idea.

The execution however didn't really play off. They were never utilized very well, by Mantlo or subsequent writers.

[Le Messor]

And Goblyn, guys. GOBLYN. How can you forget the amazing, awesome, CRAZAY Goblyn??

(I was thinking Back to Byrne's group. Then DreamQueen snuck up on me.)

I am going to guess their early stuff is not on those? You really should have a listen to their self-titled album. Specifically: "The Wizard" and "One Inch Rock". Unless they are on your best-ofs? I wouldn't think so, but maybe "The Wizard" is.

I don't have either of those.

Le Messor!
That "How the Heart Behaves" song is MESSED UP.
So sad.

Kind of glad I didn't find From The Head To The Heart, then!
This one has a couple of lyrics that appeal to me as a Christian:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TCy9icPURg
But mostly has their usual sense of humour.

Oh, and Nick Cave. If Nick Cave could just sing "Hallelujah" to me, I could die happy.

The only Leonard Cohen songs I have him singing are Tower Of Song, Avalanche, Suzanne, and I'm Your Man.
Unfortunately not Hallelujah. I like the John Cale version of that the best - that's the one you hear in West Wing and Shrek (movie, not album) and Scrubs (I think Scrubs, but I could easily be wrong about that one).

Nope, too late; your thread, all 'bout you.

Yep!

Weird Al Yankovic, some of his songs. Some are silly, some are silly-dark.

... and now I'm singing The Night Santa Went Crazy to myself.

Does something bad happen that I haven't read yet??

Not that I remember.

I think the concept of Goblyn/Pathway was very good.
Not sure where in Mantlo's run her origin is so I won't mention it but it was definitely a decent, original idea.

Agreed.

~ Le Messor
Morticia: My baby is sick and my husband is dying. Oh Mama, What shall I do?
Grandma: Well, you have a black dress.

[Flightpath07]

... and now I'm singing The Night Santa Went Crazy to myself.

Precisely the first Weird Al song that came to mind!

[Crackity Jones]

Ahem! IAmGladThatYouLikeHer!

Phew. Thought you were going to keep interrupting me.

I am TOO EXCITED.

I think the concept of Goblyn/Pathway was very good.
Not sure where in Mantlo's run her origin is so I won't mention it but it was definitely a decent, original idea.

The execution however didn't really play off. They were never utilized very well, by Mantlo or subsequent writers.

She's the best thing so far about Mantlo's run, imo. She's the ONLY character that I wish could be part of the original line up.

(I was thinking Back to Byrne's group. Then DreamQueen snuck up on me.)

I like Goblyn better than DreamQueen.

I don't have either of those.

The Wizard (it's a long song, but if you have time, it's worth it. Fun song):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfSSmy8B5GA

One Inch Rock (super fun song, imo):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYHWMcLd3uw

What I love about their earlier stuff is Marc's ability to mix in that hippy-dippy-fantasy stuff with bee-bop fun rock and actual rock music. His voice tied it all together for me.

Kind of glad I didn't find From The Head To The Heart, then!
This one has a couple of lyrics that appeal to me as a Christian:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TCy9icPURg
But mostly has their usual sense of humour.

I will listen to this in a minute. Crazay holiday!

The only Leonard Cohen songs I have him singing are Tower Of Song, Avalanche, Suzanne, and I'm Your Man.
Unfortunately not Hallelujah. I like the John Cale version of that the best - that's the one you hear in West Wing and Shrek (movie, not album) and Scrubs (I think Scrubs, but I could easily be wrong about that one).

This is Nick Cave's "Hallelujah", but yeah, Leonard's is legend.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvQfMFTa_2k

[Crackity Jones]

Kind of glad I didn't find From The Head To The Heart, then!
This one has a couple of lyrics that appeal to me as a Christian:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TCy9icPURg
But mostly has their usual sense of humour.

Wow. These guys were way ahead of their time.
I cannot believe that is from 1983!

[Le Messor]

Wow. These guys were way ahead of their time.

There's an irony to you saying that about this particular song. When they originally recorded it, they hired some random woman to do backing vocals.
Later on, she became Madonna.

(I'm not sure, but I don't believe her recording of it exists.)

~ Le Messor
"You can't rewrite the Bible,
You can't sue Buddha for libel."

[Le Messor]

I like Goblyn better than DreamQueen.

I like DreamQueen as a villain.

The Wizard (it's a long song, but if you have time, it's worth it. Fun song):

That was trippy!

One Inch Rock (super fun song, imo):

Yep, fun!

What I love about their earlier stuff is Marc's ability to mix in that hippy-dippy-fantasy stuff with bee-bop fun rock and actual rock music.

I love that.
Maybe I should link you to the Eagles's Journy Of The Sorcerer sometime. It's instrumental, though.

This is Nick Cave's "Hallelujah", but yeah, Leonard's is legend.

Oooh... You mean the Nick Cave's Hallelujah that's actually one of his own songs and that's on one of my favourite Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds albums... Oh.


~ Le Messor
"My heart's a virgin, it ain't never been tried, 'coz, you know, I never cry."
~ Alice Cooper

[Crackity Jones]

I like DreamQueen as a villain.

I probably shouldn't say I LOVE Goblyn MORE than DreamQueen because if you said she's used more during Hudnall's run, then I haven't read enough of her yet. But I really do love Goblyn.

That was trippy!

It's fantastic. There are only about 3 musicians whose vocals are such that they get a pass for every weird noise they sing. Marc Bolan is one of them.

Yep, fun!

Definitely my most favorite T.Rex song ever. So is "The Wizard", but for short songs, this one is my fave.

I love that.
Maybe I should link you to the Eagles's Journy Of The Sorcerer sometime. It's instrumental, though.

I can easily love instrumentals. They don't even have to be epic in length or difficulty with instrumentation. It just has to tell a story.

Oooh... You mean the Nick Cave's Hallelujah that's actually one of his own songs and that's on one of my favourite Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds albums... Oh.


~ Le Messor
"My heart's a virgin, it ain't never been tried, 'coz, you know, I never cry."
~ Alice Cooper

Yep, that is the one!
I, too, love that album. The first Nick Cave album I ever heard was "Murder Ballads". I know it's not his favorite, but that album is genius.

[Flightpath07]

There's an irony to you saying that about this particular song. When they originally recorded it, they hired some random woman to do backing vocals.
Later on, she became Madonna.

(I'm not sure, but I don't believe her recording of it exists.)

~ Le Messor
"You can't rewrite the Bible,
You can't sue Buddha for libel."

Back in the day, Ramones were doing an open-air concert in New York City, and some woman opened up for them doing pop songs. The record label exec (who had recently put Ramones on his label) came up to the Ramones, all excited, said what do you think of this girl, i just signed her and this is her first ever performance. They said, "Nah...I don't think she'll have a very long career, sorry." That girl was Madonna.

[Le Messor]

I probably shouldn't say I LOVE Goblyn MORE than DreamQueen because if you said she's used more during Hudnall's run, then I haven't read enough of her yet. But I really do love Goblyn.

Goblyn IS a great character.

It's fantastic. There are only about 3 musicians whose vocals are such that they get a pass for every weird noise they sing. Marc Bolan is one of them.

Who are the other two?

I can easily love instrumentals. They don't even have to be epic in length or difficulty with instrumentation. It just has to tell a story.

I mention that because we were specifically talking about vocals more than as a warning.
Here it is; it may sound VERY familiar to some listeners. Or may not:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbhAf62wfgE

The first Nick Cave album I ever heard was "Murder Ballads". I know it's not his favorite, but that album is genius.

Wow! Me, too!

Back in the day, Ramones were doing an open-air concert in New York City, and some woman opened up for them doing pop songs. The record label exec (who had recently put Ramones on his label) came up to the Ramones, all excited, said what do you think of this girl, i just signed her and this is her first ever performance. They said, "Nah...I don't think she'll have a very long career, sorry." That girl was Madonna.

I hadn't heard that story! I can imagine the Ramones not liking Madonna; they're such different musical styles.
(Really? Her opening for them? That's just wayyy off!)

~ Le Messor
"My Homer is not a communist. He may be a liar, a pig, an idiot, and a communist, but he is not a porn star."
~ Grandpa Simpson

[Garry/Al-Fan]

...

~ Mik
"I've felt a great disturbance in The Force..."
~ Obi-Wan Kenobi

Although not Alpha or comic-related, but something just doesn't seem quite right...

Garry is my Gripe Friend. We're like two old souls that b!tch and reb!tch about The Mantlo Times. We need each other to fuel the other.

But I can't go overboard (and # 29 through # 66 take me to the edge, sometimes), because I don't want to get banned. Don't have much else going on, right now.

I like DreamQueen as a villain.

Me, too.

The thing about Goblyn, for me, is she ends up looking like the way she does but her father is the true monster, jeopardizing his wife and his children because of his hatred of mutants. I'll go home and check the exact issue, but Goblyn slices through Vindicator's force-shield? C'mon! Even Wolverine's adamantium claws couldn't do that (to Mac's original super-suit). [# 54, p. 11 - Vindicator actually let Laura inside the force-field, then Goblyn switched places with Laura and attacked. ]

[Phil]

But I can't go overboard (and # 29 through # 66 take me to the edge, sometimes), because I don't want to get banned.

Garry, I honestly can't see me ever having to ban you.
Vent as much as you want, without profanity and slurs, and you'll be fine.