AF Appearance Chronology

[Le Messor]

At least that's just a slight niggle

Well, yep. Just a minor clash.

If the word is Wolverine #144 is non-con, I'll edit it out of the first post.

- Mik
"I is a college student."

[Phil]

I was just wondering if anyone had any thoughts to get around #144 being the first time Logan tried on his uniform, clashing with First Flight, and #144 leading straight into Hulk #180.

[Le Messor]

I put First Flight after Hulk 180.

- Le Messor
"I joined a health club last year, spent about 400 bucks. Haven’t lost a pound. Apparently you have to show up."

[Phil]

That would contradict X-Men:Original Sin where GS:X-Men comes immediately after Hulk #181.
Although that contradicts Wolverine First Class #5

[Le Messor]

That would contradict X-Men:Original Sin where GS:X-Men comes immediately after Hulk #181.
Although that contradicts Wolverine First Class #5

Ah, that's the bit of info I'm missing. I don't think I have Original Sin.

Problem is, Wolverine's first appearances by their nature attract new writers, and that attracts retconning, and retconning leads to hate and hate to suffering, and suffering leads to hope and
um...

[Phil]

Ah, that's the bit of info I'm missing. I don't think I have Original Sin.

You're not missing much, it was a crossover with Wolverine:Origins & X-Men Legacy that had a Prologue oneshot.
It was... dubious at best.

Problem is, Wolverine's first appearances by their nature attract new writers, and that attracts retconning, and retconning leads to hate and hate to suffering, and suffering leads to hope and um...

Yeah, and the temptation for an AF writer is to include Wolverine as much as possible in flashbacks for sales... something, something, something, dark side.

[Le Messor]

You're not missing much, it was a crossover with Wolverine:Origins & X-Men Legacy that had a Prologue oneshot.
It was... dubious at best.
Yeah, and the temptation for an AF writer is to include Wolverine as much as possible in flashbacks for sales... something, something, something, dark side.

Then I say we ignore Original Sin. Seems like the best way to deal with the clashes.
I see you've figured out the secret to good Star Wars dialogue!

- Le Messor
"I hear what you’re saying but I just don’t care."

[Le Messor]

Now part 2:
Volume 1:

Alpha Flight #2 - 4
Marvel Heartbreakers #1 - Snowbird has a story in this anthology comic.
Alpha Flight #5
Crystar #11 - Shaman, Puck, and Northstar guest star in the issue; Shaman, Puck and Snowbird guest star on the cover.
Alpha Flight #6
Alpha Flight / X-Men v2 #1 - 2 - teams up X-Men and Alpha.
Fantastic Four #267 - Walter is among the people trying to save the Richards's second baby. A Byrne issue.
Alpha Flight #7 - 13
Marvel Team-Up ann 7 - Alpha Flight team up with Spider-Man to take down the Collector.
Alpha Flight #14 - 17
Power Pack #9 - 10 - Marrina teams up with Power Pack to capture a giant snake; follows on from the Team Up appearance above.
Alpha Flight #18 - 19
Alpha Flight X-Men 1. #1 - 2 Another X-Men / Alpha team up. Against Loki.
Alpha Flight #20 - 21
Iron Man #195 - Shaman helps James Rhodes with his headaches, acting out of character.
Iron Man #196 - Shaman's still around for the first couple of pages.
Alpha Flight #22 - 27
Secret Wars #4 - a crossover with #27 and #28; The Beyonder helps with their little problem.
Alpha Flight #28
Incredible Hulk #313 - a crossover; Walt and the Hulk meet at the Crossroads.
Alpha Flight #29 - 31
Secret Wars #9 - Alpha is among the teams who go to fight the Beyonder.
Alpha Flight #32 - 34
Marvel Fanfare #28 - Northstar's terrorist past is catching up with him. The then-current team helps out.
Alpha Flight 35
Marvel Comics Presents #99 - Puck vs. Arcade
Alpha Flight #36 - 39
Avengers #272 - crossover with #39 & 40, as both teams take on Atlantis
Alpha Flight #40
Alpha Flight ann 1
Alpha Flight #41 - 50
Alpha Flight ann 2
Alpha Flight #51 - 65
Marvel Comics Presents #51 - 53 - Wildchild hunts Wolverine, with Vindicator as bait
Alpha Flight #66 - 90
Wolverine #35 - 37 - Wolverine travels back in time. Past Puck is in these issues, mostly out of them.
Avengers #320 - 324 - Alpha, The Avengers, and the Soviet team (whatever they were called at the time) team up to fight nuclear terrorists
Alpha Flight #91 - 100
Marvel Comics Presents #92 - Northstar gets in trouble for using his mutant powers to cheat at sports
Alpha Flight #101 - 107
Nick Fury #32 - Wild Child helps SHIELD with terrorists
Alpha Flight #108 - 109
∞ War #1 - 2 - Alpha Flight are among the groups fighting the baddies
Alpha Flight #110
∞ War #3 - 4- Alpha Flight are among the groups fighting the baddies
Alpha Flight #111
∞ War #5 - 6- Alpha Flight are among the groups fighting the baddies
Alpha Flight #112 - 120
Death Metal #2 - (Alpha are on the final page of #1 to set up for this issue) Death Metal attempts suicide by RCMP, using Alpha as the cop
Death Metal vs. Genetix #1 - the fight continues for a couple of pages only, but the rest of the issue has Implications for the team.
NB: all three Death Metal issues were written by then Alpha Flight scribe Simon Furman.
Alpha Flight #121 - 122
∞ Crusade #1 - 2- Alpha Flight are among the groups fighting the baddies
Alpha Flight #123 - 124
∞ Crusade #3- Alpha Flight are among the groups fighting the baddies
Alpha Flight #125 - 126
∞ Crusade #4 - 6- Alpha Flight are among the groups fighting the baddies
Alpha Flight #127
Wolverine #76 - 77 - Heather and Puck are on-hand for a fight 'tween Wolvie and Lady Deathstryke. They mostly stay out of it, but are part of it.
Secret Defenders #11 - Northstar is recruited to help against the Starblast crossover. He doesn't do much, but has a large role. Actually, he's had a lot of large rolls, judging by his beefiness.
Alpha Flight #128 - 130
Northstar #1 - 4

For some reason, I decided to bold all the Alpha Flight issues.
Some of these are no-brainers since the Alpha issue will say 'continued in...'; others less-so. For example, much as I love The Gift, it's really hard to place because the exact team configuration never happened, not between books anyway.

A few of the MCPs are way, way before printing time.

[Flightpath07]

Then I say we ignore Original Sin

Isn't the first step admitting the problem?

[Phil]

You're placing Heartbreakers that early on?
Hmm.. I may need to re-read it. I read it as happening after Incredible Hercules with her being very alone in the world and sexually reawakened (for lack of a better term) by Herc.

[Le Messor]

Basically because she fights the Great Beasts (including Somon, or at least finds evidence of him) without thinking twice about why they're alive again.

Also, her parents' talk at the end could be considered foreshadowing of the Doug Thompson storyline.

- Le Messor
"I just got skylights put in my place. The people who live above me are furious."
~ Steve Wright

[Garry/Al-Fan]

What about the additional pages from Classic X-Men?

[Le Messor]

What about the additional pages from Classic X-Men?

I've edited it to:
Uncanny #109 / Classic #16
Uncanny #120 & 121 / Classic #26 & 27.

The pages just work themselves into the issues.

- Le Messor
"I like the word `indolence.’ It makes my laziness seem classy."

[Garry/Al-Fan]

Cool.

Any objection to including Machine Man#18 as simultaneous with UXM# 139 & 140, like Phil did?

[Le Messor]

Cool.
Any objection to including Machine Man#18 as simultaneous with UXM# 139 & 140, like Phil did?

Done, and frankly I have no excuse for splitting them up like that. They are clearly stated in a couple of comics as being simultaneous.

- Le Messor
"I just talked to Buffy, and yeah, I think she's feeling a little... insane. No, not *****y crazy, more like homicidal maniac crazy. So I told her to come see you, 'kay?"
~ Willow