Crackity Jones' Discovery Of Alpha Flight

[Phil]

From the up's & downs in quality of what comes after Vol.1 that's not necessarily a bad thing...

[Crackity Jones]

Wait. It gets worse than Mantlo's run?

[Phil]

It's debatable...
The runs after Mantlo's are a lot shorter so the negative parts don't drag on as long. Each run has a few WTF moments though.
And there's some shocking 90's art.
Hudnall does a good job of clearing up Mantlo's messes though and actually tries to make the team a bit more recognizable.

[Tawmis]

Wait. It gets worse than Mantlo's run?

Llan the Sorcerer.

'nuff said.

[Tawmis]

It's debatable...
The runs after Mantlo's are a lot shorter so the negative parts don't drag on as long. Each run has a few WTF moments though.
And there's some shocking 90's art. Hudnall does a good job of clearing up Mantlo's messes though and actually tries to make the team a bit more recognizable.

Some of the art does get pretty bad. And sadly, I think it was during Hudnall's time, where it was probably the most troublesome.

Even later - How they draw Sasquatch later, especially during the World Tour - and how he has Wolverine's hair cut...

It kills me.

[Flightpath07]

I am never going to catch up. I'm still on volume 1 and will be for a long time.

Be glad! At least you have a lot of Alpha Flight to look forward to, unlike the rest of us.

[Phil]

Llan the Sorcerer.

'nuff said.

I enjoyed the Llan storyline, and the character himself.
Hudnall pulled a lot of AF back together and connected a lot of random Mantlo plot points in a nice tidy package that acknowledged Alpha's mystical and family roots through Llan.
The art was the worst part.

[Tawmis]

I enjoyed the Llan storyline, and the character himself. Hudnall pulled a lot of AF back together and connected a lot of random Mantlo plot points in a nice tidy package that acknowledged Alpha's mystical and family roots through Llan. The art was the worst part.

Now you're just punking me about liking that entire storyline. LOL

I appreciate Hundall pulling the team back together (I agree, he did this!) - but like the story with the whole city goes nuts, the little girl with the knife who goes crazy, all these people dead, laying everywhere... Just seemed like ... worse than the Jason Goes To Hell movie... Or Jason X (where he goes to space)... I just couldn't buy it. The art, certainly didn't help - and I believe this was the worse art in AF's history (later I had issues with how they'd draw Sas during World Tour, but even that doesn't compare to the art during this time)...

[Garry/Al-Fan]

And if you all are going to hijack my thread, then you'd better consider me a part of your AlphaFlight.net family.
I mean it!

You are, most definitely.

BTW, I agree with Le Messor about mentioning the origins of Heather's first suit (something that Heather herself should have been keenly aware of before putting it on).

[Le Messor]

Now you're just punking me about liking that entire storyline. LOL

I don't mind it either, tbh. Thought it's far from my favourite story.

I appreciate Hundall pulling the team back together (I agree, he did this!) - but like the story with the whole city goes nuts, the little girl with the knife who goes crazy, all these people dead, laying everywhere... Just seemed like ... worse than the Jason Goes To Hell movie... Or Jason X (where he goes to space)...

I've never seen those two movies. Just some of the highlights from Jason X. The horror aspects were a mandate from above.

I just couldn't buy it. The art, certainly didn't help - and I believe this was the worse art in AF's history...

I agree that it was the worst art in AF history... and that some later people drew Sas like they'd never seen him before; but I think the rest of the art on those runs was okay.
Just okay. Not good, but serviceable.

Le Messor about mentioning the origins of Heather's first suit (something that Heather herself should have been keenly aware of before putting it on).

Heather especially.

~ Le Messor
Mum, can Hobbes and I rent a VCR and a tape tonight?
Mum: I don't think so Calvin. It's a school night.
Calvin: What if we got an education tape?
Mum: Like what?
Calvin: "Cannibal Stewardess Vixens Unchained."

[Flightpath07]

I liked Jason X.

[Crackity Jones]

Be glad! At least you have a lot of Alpha Flight to look forward to, unlike the rest of us.

I am hoping it's something to be glad about.
I haven't had any reading time this week, but hopefully soon. I am hoping I can breeze through these coming Not Alpha issues, so that I can get to the issues where there are at least some of the original members back (AS they were, mainly).

[Tawmis]

RE:Llan the Sorcerer Storyline.
I don't mind it either, tbh. Thought it's far from my favourite story.

Now you're all just punking me! LOL

I've never seen those two movies. Just some of the highlights from Jason X. The horror aspects were a mandate from above.

I enjoy the original 5 or 6 Friday the 13th's for what they were. Brainless slasher flicks. But when Jason goes to Hell and fights there... and then when he gets shot into space, and starts killing people on a space station... then they haven't just jumped the shark, they have jumped the solar system...

I agree that it was the worst art in AF history... and that some later people drew Sas like they'd never seen him before; but I think the rest of the art on those runs was okay.
Just okay. Not good, but serviceable.

I agree.

I liked Jason X.

Something is very wrong with you... LOL

I am hoping it's something to be glad about.
I haven't had any reading time this week, but hopefully soon. I am hoping I can breeze through these coming Not Alpha issues, so that I can get to the issues where there are at least some of the original members back (AS they were, mainly).

Honestly, you do. I think you have some good reading ahead of you.

Think of it this way, most people regard Bill's run the worse of the Alpha Flight saga. So plenty of other writers come along and try to make the best of a mess, and do a pretty good job, considering the shattered pieces of Alpha Flight they were left with.

[Phil]

most people regard Bill's run the worse of the Alpha Flight saga. So plenty of other writers come along and try to make the best of a mess, and do a pretty good job, considering the shattered pieces of Alpha Flight they were left with.

I think that Mantlo's run was the worst run of the volume simply because it was the longest.

There were shorter runs that had worse ideas/plots/execution/dialogue than Mantlo did, but because they were 8 issues long they didn't make as much of a lingering stink.

[Crackity Jones]

I think that Mantlo's run was the worst run of the volume simply because it was the longest.

There were shorter runs that had worse ideas/plots/execution/dialogue than Mantlo did, but because they were 8 issues long they didn't make as much of a lingering stink.

You are the best, Phil.
THE BEST.